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DRAFT: Civilian Protection Act

Postby Morlago » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:40 am

Civilian Protection Act
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Morlago
The World Assembly,

Description: RECOGNISES the fact that in times of conflict civilians are most vulnerable to suffrage
RECOGNISES that the lives of civilians are important to all nations, both economically and ethically
UNDERSTANDS that under leadership of, but not limited to, dictators, "Father Knows Best States", especially during times of conflict, civilians may possess fear in voicing their views, facing unfair judgement and/or meeting physical and/or psychological pain or discomfort that may or may not result in death

Hereby;

MANDATES all WA nations to allow WA to interfere in cases of suspected unfair judgment and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations, with unfair treatment defined as, but not limited to:
a) To intentionally physically and/or mentally afflict pain/discomfort without the permission of the receiver
b) Sexual abuse
c) Child labor
d) Insulting the receiver's religious and/or cultural beliefs

MANDATES all WA nations to inform the WA of suspected cases of unfair judgement and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations

ENCOURAGES civilians of WA nations to notify the WA of suspected cases of unfair judgement and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations through their regional WA delegate


There, that's my first proposal. Everybody give me advices and suggestions. Be harsh!
Last edited by Morlago on Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:43 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Postby Qumkent » Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:19 am

The WA cannot intervene since it does not have any army, and cannot have one.


Child labour is already banned by WA statute. Persecution on religious grounds is likewise also illegal under WA law. What is the statute referring to by "unfair Judgement" ? and the mention of "Father knows best" states is probably illegal under the rules for resolution writing.


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Re: DRAFT: Civilian Protection Act

Postby Goobergunchia » Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:54 pm

We concur with the ambassador from Qumkent. We would prefer to see a resolution simply mandating that World Assembly member nations refrain from specified unfair treatment of civilians, with a somewhat more rigorous definition if the resolution was so revised. As WA resolutions are automatically binding on WA member nations, no enforcement role by this organization is necessary.

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Postby Morlago » Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:25 pm

Morlago wrote:Civilian Protection Act
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Morlago
The World Assembly,

Description: RECOGNISES the fact that in times of conflict civilians are most vulnerable to suffrage
RECOGNISES that the lives of civilians are important to all nations, both economically and ethically
UNDERSTANDS that during times of conflict, civilians may possess fear in voicing their views, facing unfair judgement and/or meeting physical and/or psychological pain or discomfort that may or may not result in death

Hereby;

MANDATES all WA nations to refrain from unfair legal judgment and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations, with unfair treatment defined as, but not limited to:
a) To intentionally physically and/or mentally afflict pain/discomfort without the permission of the receiver
b) Sexual abuse;
and unfair legal judgement as, but not limited to:
a) to punish people without them offending the law of their nation
b) to have a trial against people without allowing the prosecuting and/or the defending side to have legal advisors and/or evidence


Some edits have been made, thanks to the advices from Goobergunchia.
Last edited by Morlago on Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:05 am, edited 4 times in total.

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Re: DRAFT: Civilian Protection Act

Postby Alvatia » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:07 am

Morlago wrote:Civilian Protection Act
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Morlago
The World Assembly,

Description: RECOGNISES the fact that in times of conflict civilians are most vulnerable to suffrage
RECOGNISES that the lives of civilians are important to all nations, both economically and ethically
UNDERSTANDS that during times of conflict, civilians may possess fear in voicing their views, facing unfair judgement and/or meeting physical and/or psychological pain or discomfort that may or may not result in death

Hereby;

MANDATES all WA nations to refrain from unfair legal judgment and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations, with unfair treatment defined as, but not limited to:
a) To intentionally physically and/or mentally afflict pain/discomfort without the permission of the receiver
b) Sexual abuse;
and unfair legal judgement as, but not limited to:
a) to punish people without them offending the law of their nation
b) to have a trial against people without allowing the prosecuting and/or the defending side to have legal advisors and/or evidence


The Alvatian government approves with the remodelled Civilian Protection Act, as we believe that these rights should apply to every human in every nation.
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Postby Rutianas » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:39 am

Alvatia wrote:
Morlago wrote:Civilian Protection Act
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Morlago
The World Assembly,

Description: RECOGNISES the fact that in times of conflict civilians are most vulnerable to suffrage
RECOGNISES that the lives of civilians are important to all nations, both economically and ethically
UNDERSTANDS that during times of conflict, civilians may possess fear in voicing their views, facing unfair judgement and/or meeting physical and/or psychological pain or discomfort that may or may not result in death

Hereby;

MANDATES all WA nations to refrain from unfair legal judgment and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations, with unfair treatment defined as, but not limited to:
a) To intentionally physically and/or mentally afflict pain/discomfort without the permission of the receiver
b) Sexual abuse;
and unfair legal judgement as, but not limited to:
a) to punish people without them offending the law of their nation
b) to have a trial against people without allowing the prosecuting and/or the defending side to have legal advisors and/or evidence


The Alvatian government approves with the remodelled Civilian Protection Act, as we believe that these rights should apply to every human in every nation.


I'll take it a step further and say that it should apply to every sentient being in every nation. We, in the Imperial Republic, are not human.

Paula Jenner, Rutianas Ambassador

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Re: DRAFT: Civilian Protection Act

Postby Morlago » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:10 am

Morlago wrote:Civilian Protection Act
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Morlago
The World Assembly,

Description: RECOGNISES the fact that in times of conflict civilians (in this act civilians can be human or non-human) are most vulnerable to suffrage
RECOGNISES that the lives of civilians are important to all nations, both economically and ethically
UNDERSTANDS that during times of conflict, civilians may possess fear in voicing their views, facing unfair judgement and/or meeting physical and/or psychological pain or discomfort that may or may not result in death

Hereby;

MANDATES all WA nations to refrain from unfair legal judgment and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations, with unfair treatment defined as, but not limited to:
a) To intentionally physically and/or mentally afflict pain/discomfort without the permission of the receiver
b) Sexual abuse;
and unfair legal judgement as, but not limited to:
a) to punish people without them offending the law of their nation
b) to have a trial against people without allowing the prosecuting and/or the defending side to have legal advisors and/or evidence

Thank you Ambassador of Rutianas, I have added your comments to my draft.
Last edited by Morlago on Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:21 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: DRAFT: Civilian Protection Act

Postby Glen-Rhodes » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:23 am

I would bet a good amount of money that A, B, ... A, and B are already covered under existing resolutions. (You might want to change your letter sequence.)

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Postby Morlago » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:28 am

Glen-Rhodes wrote:I would bet a good amount of money that A, B, ... A, and B are already covered under existing resolutions. (You might want to change your letter sequence.


Thank you Ambassador.
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Postby Morlago » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:29 am

Morlago wrote:Civilian Protection Act
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Morlago
The World Assembly,

Description: RECOGNISES the fact that in times of conflict civilians (in this act civilians can be human or non-human) are most vulnerable to suffrage
RECOGNISES that the lives of civilians are important to all nations, both economically and ethically
UNDERSTANDS that during times of conflict, civilians may possess fear in voicing their views, facing unfair judgement and/or meeting physical and/or psychological pain or discomfort that may or may not result in death

Hereby;

MANDATES all WA nations to refrain from unfair legal judgment and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations, with unfair treatment defined as, but not limited to:
a) To intentionally physically and/or mentally afflict pain/discomfort without the permission of the receiver;
and unfair legal judgement as, but not limited to:
a) to punish people without them offending the law of their nation
b) to have a trial against people without allowing the prosecuting and/or the defending side to have legal advisors and/or evidence
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Re: DRAFT: Civilian Protection Act

Postby Absolvability » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:40 am

This proposal definately has ethical merit, but I must concur with the good Doctor that the majority of this, if not all of it, has been covered by past resolutions.

Perhaps this would not be the case if the Ambassador of Morlago could explain to us exactly what he means by 'conflict,' and perhaps some examples of how and why a citizen may be punished without having done anything illegal.
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Postby Morlago » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:53 am

Morlago wrote:
Morlago wrote:Civilian Protection Act
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Morlago
The World Assembly,

Description: RECOGNISES the fact that in times of conflict civilians (in this act civilians can be human or non-human) are most vulnerable to suffrage, with conflict defined as, but not limited to:
a) war
b) inter-/intranational arguments that may lead to loss of life
RECOGNISES that the lives of civilians are important to all nations, both economically and ethically
UNDERSTANDS that during times of conflict, civilians may possess fear in voicing their views, facing unfair judgement and/or meeting physical and/or psychological pain or discomfort that may or may not result in death

Hereby;

MANDATES all WA nations to refrain from unfair legal judgment and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations, with unfair treatment defined as, but not limited to:
a) To intentionally physically and/or mentally afflict pain/discomfort without the permission of the receiver;
and unfair legal judgement as, but not limited to:
a) to punish people without them offending the law of their nation
b) to have a trial against people without allowing the prosecuting and/or the defending side to have legal advisors and/or evidence

Examples of unfair legal judgement:
Citizens arrested and tried without witnesses, legal advisors.
Citizens put in prison and/or fined and/or bear other punishments simply by the word of the leader/head of state
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Postby Absolvability » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:16 am

Morlago wrote:Examples of unfair legal judgement:
Citizens arrested and tried without witnesses, legal advisors.
Citizens put in prison and/or fined and/or bear other punishments simply by the word of the leader/head of state


You're going to want to take a look at past resolution 'Fairness in Criminal Trials.' We have no need for further stipulations... in fact, they are illegal.
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Postby SilentScope4 » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:27 am

I'll take it a step further and say that it should apply to every sentient being in every nation.


"Every sapient being, not just sentient.

While we are in full support of giving rights to toasters and cats and dogs and cows...the rest of the General Assembly isn't supportive of those rights. They only want to give rights to those creatures who are able to reason for themselves. We have to respect their wishes."---Dr. Bob
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Postby Alvatia » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:00 pm

Absolvability wrote:This proposal definately has ethical merit, but I must concur with the good Doctor that the majority of this, if not all of it, has been covered by past resolutions.

Perhaps this would not be the case if the Ambassador of Morlago could explain to us exactly what he means by 'conflict,' and perhaps some examples of how and why a citizen may be punished without having done anything illegal.


For example, someone oculd get punished for criticising or speaking against his/hers country's government. Also the country's government itself is persecuting some people for belonging to a particular ethnic group, religion, or political/ideological organisation.
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Postby Absolvability » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:25 pm

Alvatia wrote:For example, someone oculd get punished for criticising or speaking against his/hers country's government. Also the country's government itself is persecuting some people for belonging to a particular ethnic group, religion, or political/ideological organisation.


The resolutions that have already handled these issues are Freedom of Expresson and The Charter of Civil Rights.

OOC: While I'm aware that through RP one might fall out of compliance with a resolution, game-coding sees to it that each and every resolution is all-encompassing within the WA itself. Duplications create problems perhaps not with the world our Ambassadors live in, but in the mechanics of the game we at out computer desk play.

Or perhaps you don't understand the process of game-coding or how these resolutions actually have statistical effects on all of us. That is fine, but consider the following hypothetical question: If the first resolution wasn't followed, why would the second be?

At any rate, I suggest Alvatia and Morlago take a look at the Rules for Proposal's (a stickythread in the GA forum,) and also the Past Resolutions List (same.) Any questions you have beyond that... well, you'll have to beat us off with a stick we'll be so damned helpful it'll make your head spin. -grins- But, certain services are provided so that newcomers can be self-educated as well.
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Postby Flibbleites » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:52 pm

SilentScope4 wrote:
I'll take it a step further and say that it should apply to every sentient being in every nation.


"Every sapient being, not just sentient.

While we are in full support of giving rights to toasters and cats and dogs and cows...the rest of the General Assembly isn't supportive of those rights. They only want to give rights to those creatures who are able to reason for themselves. We have to respect their wishes."---Dr. Bob

Oh God, not this sapient/sentient shit again. :palm:

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Postby Doctor Cyclops » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:55 pm

Morlago wrote:RECOGNISES the fact that in times of conflict civilians are most vulnerable to suffrage


I wholeheartedly agree and recommend that all nations take a stab at outlawing elections. However, I do not believe that this resolution goes far enough. Suffrage should not only be prevented during war-time, but during peace-time as well. It's for the people's own good after all. "Suffrage leads to nothing but suff'ring!" I always say.
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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:59 pm

Doctor Cyclops wrote:
Morlago wrote:RECOGNISES the fact that in times of conflict civilians are most vulnerable to suffrage


I wholeheartedly agree and recommend that all nations take a stab at outlawing elections. However, I do not believe that this resolution goes far enough. Suffrage should not only be prevented during war-time, but during peace-time as well. It's for the people's own good after all. "Suffrage leads to nothing but suff'ring!" I always say.


Democracy is very important and should be respected. Having a Party Dictator government representing the nation is never a good idea, it is mainly a Communist or a Socialist type government to abolish all elections, multinational party elections and limit political freedom in the sense by banning the citizens of free expression.
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Postby Sorgan » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:01 am

Morlago wrote:
Civilian Protection Act
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Morlago
The World Assembly,

Description: RECOGNISES the fact that in times of conflict civilians are most vulnerable to suffrage
RECOGNISES that the lives of civilians are important to all nations, both economically and ethically
UNDERSTANDS that under leadership of, but not limited to, dictators, "Father Knows Best States", especially during times of conflict, civilians may possess fear in voicing their views, facing unfair judgement and/or meeting physical and/or psychological pain or discomfort that may or may not result in death

Hereby;

MANDATES all WA nations to allow WA to interfere in cases of suspected unfair judgment and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations, with unfair treatment defined as, but not limited to:
a) To intentionally physically and/or mentally afflict pain/discomfort without the permission of the receiver
b) Sexual abuse
c) Child labor
d) Insulting the receiver's religious and/or cultural beliefs

MANDATES all WA nations to inform the WA of suspected cases of unfair judgement and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations

ENCOURAGES civilians of WA nations to notify the WA of suspected cases of unfair judgement and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations through their regional WA delegate


There, that's my first proposal. Everybody give me advices and suggestions. Be harsh!

Im not sure but isn't this more of one's government's thoughts and not ALL of WA?

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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:04 am

Morlago wrote:
Civilian Protection Act
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Morlago
The World Assembly,

Description: RECOGNISES the fact that in times of conflict civilians are most vulnerable to suffrage
RECOGNISES that the lives of civilians are important to all nations, both economically and ethically
UNDERSTANDS that under leadership of, but not limited to, dictators, "Father Knows Best States", especially during times of conflict, civilians may possess fear in voicing their views, facing unfair judgement and/or meeting physical and/or psychological pain or discomfort that may or may not result in death

Hereby;

MANDATES all WA nations to allow WA to interfere in cases of suspected unfair judgment and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations, with unfair treatment defined as, but not limited to:
a) To intentionally physically and/or mentally afflict pain/discomfort without the permission of the receiver
b) Sexual abuse
c) Child labor
d) Insulting the receiver's religious and/or cultural beliefs

MANDATES all WA nations to inform the WA of suspected cases of unfair judgement and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations

ENCOURAGES civilians of WA nations to notify the WA of suspected cases of unfair judgement and/or treatment concerning civilians of WA nations through their regional WA delegate


There, that's my first proposal. Everybody give me advices and suggestions. Be harsh!



Illegal as it violates past resolutions such as #4, #9, #16, #19, #23, #30, #35, it is a house of cards violation and also calls for amendments which is illegal. All of these points listed in this proposal has already been covered in previously past WA Resolutions.
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Postby Doctor Cyclops » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:26 am

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Doctor Cyclops wrote:
Morlago wrote:RECOGNISES the fact that in times of conflict civilians are most vulnerable to suffrage


I wholeheartedly agree and recommend that all nations take a stab at outlawing elections. However, I do not believe that this resolution goes far enough. Suffrage should not only be prevented during war-time, but during peace-time as well. It's for the people's own good after all. "Suffrage leads to nothing but suff'ring!" I always say.


Democracy is very important and should be respected. Having a Party Dictator government representing the nation is never a good idea, it is mainly a Communist or a Socialist type government to abolish all elections, multinational party elections and limit political freedom in the sense by banning the citizens of free expression.


Poppycock! Ask any of the fine, witty, urbane citizens of my Domain and they will tell you that voting is a waste of time! You just need to find a leader who knows what's best for everybody and put him in charge. It's the ideal solution. The only reason people want to vote anyway is because they feel unrepresented. I tell you, the unwarranted suffrage in this world must end!

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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:44 am

Poppycock! Ask any of the fine, witty, urbane citizens of my Domain and they will tell you that voting is a waste of time! You just need to find a leader who knows what's best for everybody and put him in charge. It's the ideal solution. The only reason people want to vote anyway is because they feel unrepresented. I tell you, the unwarranted suffrage in this world must end!


From: The Former Ambassafor of the Federation of the Serbian Soviet Union/Former Member of the World Assembly
To: The Ambassador of Doctor Cyclops

We ask that you keep things civil regarding the debate on the Civilian Protection Act at the moment being drafted and that you, the ambassador of the Doctor Cyclops keep things civil. Every ambassador of different nation's have their own opinions and views, each nation has it's own political idelogical, were as i the former ambassador am expressing my views and opinions regarding the draft proposal and as a response to your recent statement within the General Assembly. We also ask that you keep your personal feelings and emotions to yourself and that we keep the integrity at a professional level.

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Cobdenia
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Re: DRAFT: Civilian Protection Act

Postby Cobdenia » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:08 am

a) To intentionally physically and/or mentally afflict pain/discomfort without the permission of the receiver
b) Sexual abuse
c) Child labor
d) Insulting the receiver's religious and/or cultural beliefs


d) contradicts WA Resolution 30, c) duplicates WA resolution 4); rendering the resolution illegal. a) is pretty dumb and poorly thought out. And you need to look up suffrage in a dictionary.
Sir Cyril MacLehose-Strangways-Jones, GCRC, LOG
Permanent Representative of the Raj of Cobdenia to the World Assembly
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Morlago
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Re: DRAFT: Civilian Protection Act

Postby Morlago » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:22 am

You'll find that not many of us in Morlago have great minds. We are, in the eyes of powerful nations that have been playing for 6+ yrs, a fledgling. We recently came 29394th in the Most Educated Nations Census.
Angelo Gervoski
Minister of WA Affairs of
The United Islands of Morlago
Yë Morre Waidamün i Mórlago

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Culture: -6.31 (Cultural liberal)

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