[SUBMITTED] Repeal "National Economic Freedoms"

[Imperium Anglorum]

I too want to have the clause on compensation strengthened. But I think that's eminently achievable. Let's do the repeal and effect the change.

[Cute Puppies]

I too want to have the clause on compensation strengthened. But I think that's eminently achievable. Let's do the repeal and effect the change.

I was a bit wary about that clause because I'm not sure that it's too relevant to national economic freedoms and free trade, but because it seems clear that a lot of people are in support of it, I will be sure to add it. I am a little concerned about how I word it so suggestions on what I should write for this is greatly appreciated.

I'll be posting the first draft of the replacement proposal on this thread, and after I hear what everyone's thoughts are on it, I'll either post it on a new forum thread or post a second draft on everyone's suggestions on a new thread.

[Imperium Anglorum]

I'll be posting the first draft of the replacement proposal on this thread, and after I hear what everyone's thoughts are on it, I'll either post it on a new forum thread or post a second draft on everyone's suggestions on a new thread.

Don't post it on this thread. It's difficult to discuss multiple proposals on one thread. However it is, I've got plans for NEF replacement.

[Cute Puppies]

I'll be posting the first draft of the replacement proposal on this thread, and after I hear what everyone's thoughts are on it, I'll either post it on a new forum thread or post a second draft on everyone's suggestions on a new thread.

Don't post it on this thread. It's difficult to discuss multiple proposals on one thread. However it is, I've got plans for NEF replacement.

I currently have a rough draft on the NEF replacement. Could I show you my draft when I'm able to hop onto my computer in a couple of hours and possibly collaborate on the replacement bill sith you?

[Sierra Lyricalia]

Basically the remainder of the proposal after the excision of the clause about having to compensate private property owners. (That clause would essentially make it an international violation to have a communist revolution if people were reading it closely.) The blocker on the WA being used for arbitrary trade restrictions (or loosenings) serves to protect us from a neoliberal firestorm, and I appreciate that.

However, this is not at all an area in which I am familiar with writing, so good luck with that

"That assumes that a revolution wouldn't operate as a de facto resignation. A transition from not-communist to communist over time wouldn't face significant cost issues, since nationalization could be done on schedule based on available funds. But a sudden revolution that effectively changes the government would bring up continuity issues. In effect, the old government is destroyed and the new government is installed, making many of the old laws defunct. That seems to me like a de facto repudiation of membership, since we can assume the new government would have to ratify the decision to join the World Assembly. There is no law that so specifies this, but based on the nature of sudden government changes, I don't see why this would be an unreasonable position to take on the matter."

"On the contrary, any revolutionary government is going to portray itself as the true voice of its people and the executor of their interests - which includes representing them before the World Assembly. Any revolutionary state is going to seek any source of legitimacy beyond the de facto that it can get it's hands on, and WA membership is absolutely included in that. In the absence of an explicit resignation, the WA must deal with whatever serious government is in charge of a member state, even a brand spanking new one."

OOC: the RL UnNameable organization tried it your way with China for 20 years before crying UNcle. Since the WA isn't really in the pocket of three or four allied states the way that body sometimes is, there's no way it would try to do that to a member state, I don't think.

[Cute Puppies]

I posted the first draft of my replacement bill.

I also edited the current draft of the repeal, removing "convinced" and "distressed" clauses.

[Imperium Anglorum]

China for 20 years before crying UNcle.

I don't know what you're talking about. The Soviet world conspiracy fundamentally weakened the brotherhood of free nations by recognising an imposter rebellion with no mandate from the people. There is one China. And its organs are the Yuans.

[Desmosthenes and Burke]

China for 20 years before crying UNcle.

I don't know what you're talking about. The Soviet world conspiracy fundamentally weakened the brotherhood of free nations by recognising an imposter rebellion with no mandate from the people. There is one China. And its organs are the Yuans.

OOC: I just got sent to re-educaction through labour for reading that. Thanks, IA.

IC: We do not find the currently proposed replacement adequate. However, the Ambassador of the Government of the Angles has also indicated work on a replacement. His excellency usually writes decent proposals, so we shall see.

[Cute Puppies]

I don't know what you're talking about. The Soviet world conspiracy fundamentally weakened the brotherhood of free nations by recognising an imposter rebellion with no mandate from the people. There is one China. And its organs are the Yuans.

OOC: I just got sent to re-educaction through labour for reading that. Thanks, IA.

IC: We do not find the currently proposed replacement adequate. However, the Ambassador of the Government of the Angles has also indicated work on a replacement. His excellency usually writes decent proposals, so we shall see.

OOC: How would you recommend I improve the proposal?

[East Gondwana]

"The Gondwanan position on this resolution is that, despite its reasonable and entirely agreeable body that this nation supports, the final requirement that "no commerce be generally restricted by the WA unless...the enterprise causes an extreme hazard to national populations" has been used to shoot down proposals due to perfectly reasonable and sensible clauses that unfortunately contradict this aspect of the target resolution. It, in our opinion, is a hindrance to the ability of the WA to regulate economic activity that, while not an "extreme" hazard to national populations, nevertheless should be regulated.

We support a repeal, but only on the grounds that an immediate replacement is proposed, that includes all the other clauses of GAR#68"

[Kenmoria]

"I wouldn't put the “However” on its own line. No real reason, just minor aesthetics and preference."

[Cute Puppies]

"I wouldn't put the “However” on its own line. No real reason, just minor aesthetics and preference."

OOC: Fix'd. Thanks, king o' grammar

[Cute Puppies]

After adding finishing touches to this repeal, I will submit the repeal and replacement proposal very soon. I feel confident that these bills accurately addresses the flaws of GAR#68 and why these necessitate a repeal and replacement. Thank you, everyone, for sharing your opinions and constructive criticism on this proposal. Whether or not this manages to reach quorum, I thank everyone for their help.

I understand that this may be too early to post my draft, but because of personal and health issues unrelated to NS and my coming AP exams, and because I feel confident with proposals' final products, I would like to submit it soon.

For the sake of preventing confusion, I'm submitting this proposal under my alternate account which I intend to use from now on as my WA nation, Zone 71.

[Avgrunden]

We support the repeal. The original resolution uses overly-vague wording, and is lacking in definitions, especially the phrases "enterprise" and "extreme hazard".

Respectfully,

[Cute Puppies]

We support the repeal. The original resolution uses overly-vague wording, and is lacking in definitions, especially the phrases "enterprise" and "extreme hazard".

Respectfully,

Thank you for your support, Avgrunden. It's very much appreciated.

[Kenmoria]

"I see this has been submitted. Good luck!"

[Imperium Anglorum]

Is there a campaign ongoing?

[Cute Puppies]

Is there a campaign ongoing?

Yes. I'm manually sending telegrams to active WA Delegates. I'm trying to set up an API, but I'm still pretty hopeless on that.

[Imperium Anglorum]

I believe the proposal remains inquorate. And is unlikely to become quorate before it expires. If the author would like assistance with campaigning if he were to resubmit, send me a message over Discord or a telegram.

[Zone 71]

I believe the proposal remains inquorate. And is unlikely to become quorate before it expires. If the author would like assistance with campaigning if he were to resubmit, send me a message over Discord or a telegram.

That's a very generous offer. I have sent you a discord FR. My disc name is Tara.