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by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:09 am
by Cute Puppies » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:17 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:I too want to have the clause on compensation strengthened. But I think that's eminently achievable. Let's do the repeal and effect the change.
by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:24 am
Cute Puppies wrote:I'll be posting the first draft of the replacement proposal on this thread, and after I hear what everyone's thoughts are on it, I'll either post it on a new forum thread or post a second draft on everyone's suggestions on a new thread.
by Cute Puppies » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:27 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Cute Puppies wrote:I'll be posting the first draft of the replacement proposal on this thread, and after I hear what everyone's thoughts are on it, I'll either post it on a new forum thread or post a second draft on everyone's suggestions on a new thread.
Don't post it on this thread. It's difficult to discuss multiple proposals on one thread. However it is, I've got plans for NEF replacement.
by Sierra Lyricalia » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:33 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:Burninati0n wrote:Basically the remainder of the proposal after the excision of the clause about having to compensate private property owners. (That clause would essentially make it an international violation to have a communist revolution if people were reading it closely.) The blocker on the WA being used for arbitrary trade restrictions (or loosenings) serves to protect us from a neoliberal firestorm, and I appreciate that.
However, this is not at all an area in which I am familiar with writing, so good luck with that
"That assumes that a revolution wouldn't operate as a de facto resignation. A transition from not-communist to communist over time wouldn't face significant cost issues, since nationalization could be done on schedule based on available funds. But a sudden revolution that effectively changes the government would bring up continuity issues. In effect, the old government is destroyed and the new government is installed, making many of the old laws defunct. That seems to me like a de facto repudiation of membership, since we can assume the new government would have to ratify the decision to join the World Assembly. There is no law that so specifies this, but based on the nature of sudden government changes, I don't see why this would be an unreasonable position to take on the matter."
by Cute Puppies » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:58 pm
by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:14 pm
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:China for 20 years before crying UNcle.
by Desmosthenes and Burke » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:23 pm
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Sierra Lyricalia wrote:China for 20 years before crying UNcle.
I don't know what you're talking about. The Soviet world conspiracy fundamentally weakened the brotherhood of free nations by recognising an imposter rebellion with no mandate from the people. There is one China. And its organs are the Yuans.
by Cute Puppies » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:28 am
Desmosthenes and Burke wrote:Imperium Anglorum wrote:I don't know what you're talking about. The Soviet world conspiracy fundamentally weakened the brotherhood of free nations by recognising an imposter rebellion with no mandate from the people. There is one China. And its organs are the Yuans.
OOC: I just got sent to re-educaction through labour for reading that. Thanks, IA.
IC: We do not find the currently proposed replacement adequate. However, the Ambassador of the Government of the Angles has also indicated work on a replacement. His excellency usually writes decent proposals, so we shall see.
by East Gondwana » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:41 am
by Kenmoria » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:26 pm
by Cute Puppies » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:28 pm
Kenmoria wrote:"I wouldn't put the “However” on its own line. No real reason, just minor aesthetics and preference."
by Cute Puppies » Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:02 am
by Avgrunden » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:06 pm
by Cute Puppies » Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:35 pm
Avgrunden wrote:We support the repeal. The original resolution uses overly-vague wording, and is lacking in definitions, especially the phrases "enterprise" and "extreme hazard".
Respectfully,
by Kenmoria » Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:56 am
by Imperium Anglorum » Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:56 am
by Cute Puppies » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:39 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Is there a campaign ongoing?
by Imperium Anglorum » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:40 pm
by Zone 71 » Tue May 01, 2018 4:44 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:I believe the proposal remains inquorate. And is unlikely to become quorate before it expires. If the author would like assistance with campaigning if he were to resubmit, send me a message over Discord or a telegram.
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