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by Gonadez » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:22 am
by Ru- » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:32 am
by The Land of the Ephyral » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:49 am
by AaronScythe » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:03 pm
by Wallenburg » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:21 pm
by Alvero » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:48 pm
by Alastrius » Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:02 pm
by Kenmoria » Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:21 pm
Alastrius wrote:My skepticism arises when I ask the question "can I ban other religions?" We have an established religion and this bill would prevent me from imprisoning those who violate our laws on religion. We are Catholic and Catholicism is integral to the government. To allow the existence of other religions, it opens up the ability for these heathens to infiltrate our administration and attempt to spread "religious freedom" and lead people to damnation. We will not be supporting this bill and likely, won't support any revisions, either.
by Wallenburg » Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:25 pm
Alastrius wrote:My skepticism arises when I ask the question "can I ban other religions?" We have an established religion and this bill would prevent me from imprisoning those who violate our laws on religion. We are Catholic and Catholicism is integral to the government. To allow the existence of other religions, it opens up the ability for these heathens to infiltrate our administration and attempt to spread "religious freedom" and lead people to damnation. We will not be supporting this bill and likely, won't support any revisions, either.
by Sethtekia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:24 pm
by Arasi Luvasa » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:44 pm
Sethtekia wrote:"This is yet again, another violation of the World Assembly by adding more laws to laws already laid out. However you if you look at past resolutions there is already one similar to this. And its quite enough to do what is necessary. Nobody should be making more and more outrageous laws that inhibit a Nation from enforcing its own laws. Slums and ghettos are notorious for housing dangerous criminals released from prison. So violence in these areas are not uncommon. But now you're saying we can't go into a slum and destroy the enemy there without the "Case by Case..." How are you going to enforce this law upon nations who do not care about World Assembly laws. You can pass them all you want. But enforcing your will upon these nations is pathetic." The Delegate from Sethtekia would speak when he was given the greenlight to speak.
by Sethtekia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:54 pm
Arasi Luvasa wrote:Sethtekia wrote:"This is yet again, another violation of the World Assembly by adding more laws to laws already laid out. However you if you look at past resolutions there is already one similar to this. And its quite enough to do what is necessary. Nobody should be making more and more outrageous laws that inhibit a Nation from enforcing its own laws. Slums and ghettos are notorious for housing dangerous criminals released from prison. So violence in these areas are not uncommon. But now you're saying we can't go into a slum and destroy the enemy there without the "Case by Case..." How are you going to enforce this law upon nations who do not care about World Assembly laws. You can pass them all you want. But enforcing your will upon these nations is pathetic." The Delegate from Sethtekia would speak when he was given the greenlight to speak.
"Ambassador, if you don't intend to follow any resolutions then I must ask why you have joined the World Assembly. Besides that there are various reasons for the issue you have just described and the violent approach you seem to advocate would not improve the situation."
by Wallenburg » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:56 pm
by Sethtekia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:59 pm
Wallenburg wrote:+1 didn't read the resolution.
by Wallenburg » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:03 pm
by Sethtekia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:11 pm
OOC: This prevents a government from forcefully displacing a slum out of a city of their residence correct? Well what happens if they have to move them and it gets violent. How is the police supposed to react? With turning the other cheek? The nations has full rights to forcefully move its worst off from their cities to keep the cities clean and pure.Wallenburg wrote:Sethtekia wrote:I did read the act. But its soo vague that it can be intepretted as such. ((OOC))
OOC: It really couldn't. For starters, the text does not limit its protections to the poor. Genociding the rich is equally prohibited. The post right below the OP explicitly mentions this.
by Wallenburg » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:14 pm
Sethtekia wrote:OOC: This prevents a government from forcefully displacing a slum out of a city of their residence correct? Well what happens if they have to move them and it gets violent. How is the police supposed to react? With turning the other cheek? The nations has full rights to forcefully move its worst off from their cities to keep the cities clean and pure.Wallenburg wrote:OOC: It really couldn't. For starters, the text does not limit its protections to the poor. Genociding the rich is equally prohibited. The post right below the OP explicitly mentions this.
by Sethtekia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:20 pm
by Grater Tovakia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:43 pm
by Lord Dominator » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:01 pm
Grater Tovakia wrote:Credit to Kurczak for showing me this song : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpa7wEAz7I
What is with this new trend of trying to name the proposal something it's not so your average issues player votes for it.
by Wabberjocky » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:53 pm
by Lord Dominator » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:07 pm
Wabberjocky wrote:#3: I've never heard of extermination based upon economic status. It seems made up.
Misleading title.
Vague and arbitrary language.
AGAINST
by Scherzinger » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:34 pm
Kenmoria wrote:Scherzinger wrote:Bloody Nora, now we are trying to be forced to spend our valuable income on refugees? I recall that our glorious nation has closed boarders. Thank Emperor it shall stay that way. So i suppose i dont see how it will change anything for our nation. Not really seeing a point that will be beneficial to my nation and her people's welfare
“No, this proposal has nothing to do this refugees nor anything to do with the state of borders in your nation. It concerns only acts of genocide against groups of people, including groups based on economic status. Therefore, this delegation wishes to announce its vote FOR this proposal.”
by Caracasus » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:37 am
Scherzinger wrote:Kenmoria wrote:“No, this proposal has nothing to do this refugees nor anything to do with the state of borders in your nation. It concerns only acts of genocide against groups of people, including groups based on economic status. Therefore, this delegation wishes to announce its vote FOR this proposal.”
It literally says that i am bound to aid these swine which implies that it may require me to spend my nations money on them to provide them a better life. Last time i checked my Emperor is only concerned with the wellness of his people and allies. I dont feel like helping them if they arent citizens of Scherzinger or from her allies to be honest. Im not mad at you for voting for this trash, im mad because you lied to me.
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