[DRAFT] Freedom to Reproduce

[Copperward]

"And what 'data' are you referring to, ambassador?" interjects Ambassador Bentley. "And how does social justice and women's equality in any way pose as an effective method of population control?!" Bentley anxiously rustles through the large stacks of paper mounted on her desk to check for any documents of this "data" that the ambassador of the Free Philosophers of Earth was speaking of.

"Sir, check the population trends of the modern world. There you'll find the obvious to be true."

OOC: Watch This. There's a reason that developed countries have much lower rates of population growth.

Ambassador Bentley sighs and scolds the other ambassador. "How...? Overlooking the fact that you don't have any sources justifying the 'data' you previously referred to, assuming that the population of the 'modern world' is supposedly dwindling because of the greater social equality and women's rights is a stretch, and there is no definitive correlation between the two - at least you haven't given evidence of a correlation between them. Your point stands moot."

OOC: Also, you cannot use RL data or examples in IIC conversations or WA proposals

[The dark Panther]

Freedom to Reproduce
Category: Human Rights | Strength: Significant | Proposed by: The Free Philosophers of Earth

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Lauding previous attempts by this august Assembly to defend fundamental freedoms pertaining to the reproduction of sapient species,

Surprised by the lack of existing global legislation safeguarding the right of sapient species to reproduce against those sinister regimes who would seek to deny said rights,

Noting the tendency of reproductive limits to cause a preponderance of sex-selective abortions, thereby leading to extreme gender imbalances in societies where said policy is implemented,

Abhorred by the potential eugenic motivations of population control policies, be they stated or not,

Observing that the expansion of health, education, and infrastructure systems have proven themselves to be equally effective and morally upstanding way to normalize population trends without creating the unintended consequences of direct reproductive limits,

Yearning therefore, to finally establish the freedom to reproduce as a fundamental right of all sapient species,

The General Assembly, by the advice and consent of the delegates and member nations thereof, hereby:

1. Prohibits member nations from enacting any limits on the childbearing of sapient species number of children that any member of a sapient species may have or from banning the act of biological reproduction,
   
   
2. Prohibits member nations from forcibly sterilizing individuals of a sapient species or requiring them to use contraceptives.

"i support this proposal" says World Assembly Ambassador Bolesław Kozminski "but where is your proof that that greater social equality and women's rights caused lower population?"

[The Free Philosophers of Earth]

"Should the system grow and develop sufficiently, population growth declines, ultimately leading to the stabilisation of populations. Such is a fact. There is simply no need for coercive population control in developed societies. As for developing ones, population control has led to more problems than it's solved, as was the case in China before the global evolution. There still existed great amounts of famine even after their one-child policy was implemented. In fact, the largest contributor to Chinese woes with regard to food was resource mismanagement and poor food distribution, not the population. It did, on the other hand, create large gender imbalances and exacerbated sexism."

"Most famine is, anyways, caused by mismanagement and often malice on the part of weak, primitive governments. I suggest they solve their own problems rather than infringe on human rights."

"I am not aware of what "China" is," says Ambassador Olsh. "And what may be a trend in human societies does not necessarily make a certainty in all of them, nor does it mean that all other sapients will have that same trend."

"Sir, allow me to explain. China was a country that existed before the establishment of our global republic."

"Sir, check the population trends of the modern world. There you'll find the obvious to be true."

OOC: Watch This. There's a reason that developed countries have much lower rates of population growth.

Ambassador Bentley sighs and scolds the other ambassador. "How...? Overlooking the fact that you don't have any sources justifying the 'data' you previously referred to, assuming that the population of the 'modern world' is supposedly dwindling because of the greater social equality and women's rights is a stretch, and there is no definitive correlation between the two - at least you haven't given evidence of a correlation between them. Your point stands moot."

OOC: Also, you cannot use RL data or examples in IIC conversations or WA proposals

IC: "Ambassador...the logic coupled with the statistics is the important thing to consider here. I've presented you the evidence...it's on the desk, and countless more piece could be found with a cursory glance at your national information repositories.

OOC: Watch the video. It explains the reasoning. The correlation is with development levels and population growth--a decidedly negative correlation.

[The Free Philosophers of Earth]

Freedom to Reproduce
Category: Human Rights | Strength: Significant | Proposed by: The Free Philosophers of Earth

---

Lauding previous attempts by this august Assembly to defend fundamental freedoms pertaining to the reproduction of sapient species,

Surprised by the lack of existing global legislation safeguarding the right of sapient species to reproduce against those sinister regimes who would seek to deny said rights,

Noting the tendency of reproductive limits to cause a preponderance of sex-selective abortions, thereby leading to extreme gender imbalances in societies where said policy is implemented,

Abhorred by the potential eugenic motivations of population control policies, be they stated or not,

Observing that the expansion of health, education, and infrastructure systems have proven themselves to be equally effective and morally upstanding way to normalize population trends without creating the unintended consequences of direct reproductive limits,

Yearning therefore, to finally establish the freedom to reproduce as a fundamental right of all sapient species,

The General Assembly, by the advice and consent of the delegates and member nations thereof, hereby:

1. Prohibits member nations from enacting any limits on the childbearing of sapient species number of children that any member of a sapient species may have or from banning the act of biological reproduction,
   
   
2. Prohibits member nations from forcibly sterilizing individuals of a sapient species or requiring them to use contraceptives.

"i support this proposal" says World Assembly Ambassador Bolesław Kozminski "but where is your proof that that greater social equality and women's rights caused lower population?"

OOC: Watch the video I linked to on page 1, and look at population data.

[Copperward]

IC: "Ambassador...the logic coupled with the statistics is the important thing to consider here. I've presented you the evidence...it's on the desk, and countless more piece could be found with a cursory glance at your national information repositories.

OOC: Watch the video. It explains the reasoning. The correlation is with development levels and population growth--a decidedly negative correlation.

The irritated Ambassador Bentley raises her voice, "What 'logic?' What 'statistics?' You have not presented any evidence. All you have suggested is that a change in demographics from whatever region or nation you're referring to is attributed to social equality and women's rights, despite failing to present anything that substantiates this connection."

OOC: Again, you cannot substantiate IC comments and World Assembly proposals with real-world references. Your video means nothing in this IIC debate.

Edit: Changed "IIC" to "IC"

[Kenmoria]

"There should be a comma between “species” and “number” in the first active clause."

[Araraukar]

OOC: Again, you cannot substantiate IIC comments and World Assembly proposals with real-world references. Your video means nothing in this IIC debate.

OOC: What the hell is "IIC"? And also, you can use OOC examples just as well as RP ones, but the IC characters will likely take OOC examples as RP examples.

[Tinfect]

OOC: And also, you can use OOC examples just as well as RP ones, but the IC characters will likely take OOC examples as RP examples.

OOC:
It's worth noting that the video in question was mentioned as an OOC comment, we can't acknowledge it ICly, and I'm not entirely certain I trust the source OOCly.

[Industrial West Virginia]

"What might we say about nations in which the conditions are such that it would make the reproductive process largely ineffective? I mean this in terms of countries that are largely irradiated. Would birth defects not cause the nation to die slowly and become deficient in intelligence and physical ability?" asked Maria Goddard, WA ambassador for Industrial West Virginia. "I request that you add exceptions to this law for countries that may be irradiated and/or their populous may be sterile by nature."

[Kenmoria]

"I wouldn't italicise “The General Assembly" in the line before the active clauses."

[Imperium Anglorum]

"I wouldn't italicise “The General Assembly" in the line before the active clauses."

I would, and move it to the top like so:

The General Assembly,

Blahing,

Blahing, and

Blahing, hereby:

1. Blahs; and

2. Blahs.

[Kenmoria]

(OOC: Mentioning delegates in the hereby line could count as a meta-gaming violation.)

[Bears Armed]

(OOC: Mentioning delegates in the hereby line could count as a meta-gaming violation.)

(OOC: Precedent says that as long as it doesn't specifically refer to them as regional delegates this is okay, because some member nations might use that term instead of "ambassadors" to to describe their own representatives here.)

[Pan-Asiatic States]

I strongly disagree with this. What about nations trying to maintain Eugenics programs, such as myself?

[Fauxia]

I strongly disagree with this. What about nations trying to maintain Eugenics programs, such as myself?

“What about them? They can quit their authoritarian policies and civil rights abuses.”

[Copperward]

The last edit was made around two weeks ago. Is this proposal dead or is the drafting process taking a brief hiatus?

[United Massachusetts]

The last edit was made around two weeks ago. Is this proposal dead or is the drafting process taking a brief hiatus?

Brief hiatus.

(I'm the author...)

[Kenmoria]

I strongly disagree with this. What about nations trying to maintain Eugenics programs, such as myself?

"You could always try to stop your systematic racism. If anything, it's good a World Assembly law stops you from doing such severe human rights abuses. This may contribute to us supporting the proposal if it can be demonstrated to stop eugenics."

[Kalata]

I concur with Pan-Asiatic States. In some of the planets of the Confederacy, there are self-imposed eugenics programmes, for the races there have near-perfect heritability of intelligence. They view it as necessary to maintain an intelligent and thoughtful populace. And it is far less destructive to impose these restrictions on reproduction than to deal with it after the fact.

[Rafterland]

It seems to conflict with the National Policy "No Sex" (Biological reproduction is prohibited), which Tethys 13 enforces - all our people are grown in vats.

"It is quite a bit late, dear... sir, but I believe you have nothing to worry about as it could be easily argued that as the vats are not sapient organisms themselves, they are excused from the law."

[Kenmoria]

I concur with Pan-Asiatic States. In some of the planets of the Confederacy, there are self-imposed eugenics programmes, for the races there have near-perfect heritability of intelligence. They view it as necessary to maintain an intelligent and thoughtful populace. And it is far less destructive to impose these restrictions on reproduction than to deal with it after the fact.

"I must say, eugenics is something the World Assembly ought to be prohibiting, rather than making an exception for. If this resolution would help stamp out a eugenics program, that earns it a FOR vote in my books."

[Rafterland]

I concur with Pan-Asiatic States. In some of the planets of the Confederacy, there are self-imposed eugenics programmes, for the races there have near-perfect heritability of intelligence. They view it as necessary to maintain an intelligent and thoughtful populace. And it is far less destructive to impose these restrictions on reproduction than to deal with it after the fact.

"I must say, eugenics is something the World Assembly ought to be prohibiting, rather than making an exception for. If this resolution would help stamp out a eugenics program, that earns it a FOR vote in my books."

"In the view of what you have just said, it seems clear to me that we're going to have an interesting debate about that subject very soon if this resolution makes it."

[Jebslund]

OOC: Again, you cannot substantiate IIC comments and World Assembly proposals with real-world references. Your video means nothing in this IIC debate.

OOC: What the hell is "IIC"? And also, you can use OOC examples just as well as RP ones, but the IC characters will likely take OOC examples as RP examples.

OOC: To answer your question, a typo, I'm guessing. Regarding using the RL data ICly: Typically, that's referred to as metagaming. IC policy should be substantiated by IC data. It's part of why the ban on RL references is there.

As for using RL examples, ICly using data from RL countries that don't exist (at least, not as their RL forms) would be equivalent to using statistics on Star Wars societies as evidence to support RL policy.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Regarding using the RL data ICly: Typically, that's referred to as metagaming. IC policy should be substantiated by IC data. It's part of why the ban on RL references is there.

Only in proposals.

As for using RL examples, ICly using data from RL countries that don't exist (at least, not as their RL forms) would be equivalent to using statistics on Star Wars societies as evidence to support RL policy.

Have you heard of Model UN? In Model UN, there is roleplay. Participants roleplay as . . . representatives from member states. And the roleplay universe is the real world. Roleplay universes are broad enough to permit the use of real life data as being part of the roleplay itself.

[Jebslund]

Regarding using the RL data ICly: Typically, that's referred to as metagaming. IC policy should be substantiated by IC data. It's part of why the ban on RL references is there.

Only in proposals.

OOC: Yeeeeeees, and that was the rule I was referencing. It's not that illogical, however, to assume that using RL statistics in RP in the GA forum would create a similar breaking of the 4th wall, which is bad form in an RP not specifically about that at best.

As for using RL examples, ICly using data from RL countries that don't exist (at least, not as their RL forms) would be equivalent to using statistics on Star Wars societies as evidence to support RL policy.

Have you heard of Model UN? In Model UN, there is roleplay. Participants roleplay as . . . representatives from member states. And the roleplay universe is the real world. Roleplay universes are broad enough to permit the use of real life data as being part of the roleplay itself.

Are they a WA organization? Are they absolutely 100% like their real-life equivalents? Did the RL sources being presented originate from said RP, or are they real-life things being metagamed into existence?