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Libana
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[DRAFT] Ban On Cannibalism

Postby Libana » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:22 pm

Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Mild

The World Assembly,

Believing that every single form of sapient life is very precious, special, and worthy, which means that it should be held absolutely dear,

Acknowledging that the deceased had once possessed the traits of the living, meaning that they loved and were loved by others who were close to them, and should be respected just like any other person,

Aware that there are various cultures around the world, each with their different customs, beliefs, and ideologies, but also seeing cannibalism and other acts similar to it as unethical and unscrupulous,

Disgusted at the complete lack of moral decency in the individuals who support the eating of the flesh and organs of others, who basically sum up the dead they feast on as nothing more than food,

Defining cannibalism for the purposes of this Resolution, as the eating of the flesh or body parts of one's own species, while also clarifying that being a carnivore is not condemned in the sense of eating meat from other animals,

Hereby,

1. Completely prohibits all forms of cannibalism, including autocannibalism, in all member-nations, whether or not it may be ritualistic,

2. Classifies all perpetrators of cannibalism after the passing of this resolution as criminals, meaning that those who have comitted the act prior shall be excused,

3. Urges member-nations to limit and prevent the promotion of cannibalism and autocannibalism.
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Postby Masurbia » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:32 pm

The World Assembly:

Understanding that the universe is composed of beings of diverse cultures, backgrounds and religions;

Having considered that the importance of certain cultural and religious practices are integral to the beliefs of such followers;

However dismayed that there are those who, in the name of said culture or religion, continue to perform traditional rituals that cause irreparable harm or death;

Determining that such actions are violations of the basic human right to live;

Defining "ritual sacrifice" as the intentional and ritualistic act of killing one or more other beings (a) as an offering to a god or spirit, (b) as an effort to control sapient population growth, or (c) as a method by which a ruling class or regime creates or perpetuates social hierarchy;

Clarifying that such "ritual sacrifice" does not include capital punishment, assisted suicide or euthanasia of a terminally ill patient or other medical procedures, or any acts of war including insurgency and counterinsurgency;

Hereby:

1. Bans the ritual sacrifice of sapient beings in all member nations;

2. Requires member nations criminalize such acts of ritual sacrifice and prosecute perpetrators accordingly;

3. Urges member nations to ban the ritual sacrifice of animals and other sentient beings.

This proposal looks exactly like Ban on Ritual Sacrifice.
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Postby Allied Sapients » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:34 pm

“Why is this so disgusting to you?” asks Ambassador Olsh, fluffing her mane. “Everyone goes back into the food chain eventually. Why put such a significant distinction between decomposing and working your way up from bacteria to microbes to very small macrobes to insects to food animals, and being fed into a protein vat?”
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:35 pm

Libana wrote:Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Mild

The World Assembly,

Believing that every single form of human life is very precious, special, and worthy, which means that it should be held absolutely dear, even if deceased,

Acknowledging that the deceased had once possessed the traits of the living, meaning that they loved and were loved by others who were close to them, and should be respected just like any other person,

Aware that there are various cultures around the world, each with their different customs, beliefs, and ideologies, but also seeing cannibalism and other acts similar to it as unethical and unscrupulous,

Disgusted at the complete lack of moral decency in the individuals who support the eating of the flesh and organs of the human body, who basically sum up the dead they feast on as nothing more than food,

Commending previously passed Resolutions such as GAR #416 (Ban On Ritual Sacrifice) that attack and try to limit primitive and backwards practices that some individuals still carry out today, while also trying to take it one step further,

Defining cannibalism for the purposes of this Resolution, as the eating of the flesh or body parts of one's own species, while also clarifying that being a carnivore is not condemned in the sense of eating meat from other animals,

The World Assembly hereby,

1. Bans cannibalism in all member-nations, whether or not it is ritualistic

2. Classifies all perpetrators of cannibalism after the passing of this Resolution as criminals

3. Urges member-nations to limit and prevent the promotion of cannibalism

Ambassador, we have a large minority of Gialas, which can’t be considered humans. Clause 4 only refers to humans
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:22 pm

"Life is not particularly special. We are opposed to the first line."

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Postby Edreland » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:28 pm

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Postby Alesya » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:44 pm

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Postby Hatterleigh » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:47 pm

I mean, cannibalism is disgusting an immoral, but it isn't so bad and common that it needs to be an omnipresent law as long as the deceased agreed to it during their lifetime
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Postby Hatterleigh » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:48 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Life is not particularly special. We are opposed to the first line."

I'd beg to differ, but let's not get off track by going into the details.
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:01 pm

"We demand an exception clause for people stranded in the wilderness who are otherwise unable to feed themselves and who risk starvation if they fail to draw lots to determine who lives and who gets eaten. Bad enough the survivors have to undergo such an ordeal, you're now gonna prosecute them for it even when the victim willingly cuts his own throat? Talk about adding insult to injury..."
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Postby Kenmoria » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:22 am

"Clarifying all perpetrators of cannibalism as cannibals would prosecute those who have severe mental difficulties and did not understand what they were doing, or those under the age of majority."
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Postby San Hieronymi » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:22 am

Junior delegate Alcantara quickly reads his prepared statement;

"Though cannabilism is not generally a moral practice this sort of blanket regulation would not be helpful. It either needs to be more nuanced which would likely make this resolution rather unwieldy or it needs to be withdrawn from consideration. In some tribal religions eating parts of the deceased is considered as a way of honouring them. Outlawing this practice could ferment political instability in member states with significant populations of such people.

This could also cause an issue in some states such as ours that specifically endorse the Catholic teaching of transubstantiation. Some people could argue that this resolution could be interpreted as prohibiting this recognition of a consecrated Host as the true flesh of Christ and then permitting the consumption of this Host.

We therefore register our doubts that this proposal could be effective."
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Postby Desmosthenes and Burke » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:58 am

The Burkean ambassador read the proposal a few times, and had a quizzical look upon her face. "Welcome to hel...I mean the general assembly, Ambassador of Libana. We wish to congratulate you on a first draft that we at least had to read and consider before rejecting. That is a rare talent, and we hope that you remain in these...august...halls and produce future legislation. On topic we have a few concerns with your proposal,"

Believing that every single form of human life is very precious, special, and worthy, which means that it should be held absolutely dear, even if deceased,


As opposed to the ursine life of the gentle and venerable Ambassador SouthWoods of the Bears Armed? Or the sapient potted plant, the name of which, I must admit, currently escapes me. To say nothing of the talking currus.

Defining cannibalism for the purposes of this Resolution, as the eating of the flesh or body parts of one's own species, while also clarifying that being a carnivore is not condemned in the sense of eating meat from other animals,


So, if I understand, eating the "honorable" ambassador from Separatist Peoples is cannibalism, and according to you would be lacking in moral decency, but stewing Ambassador SouthWoods is merely being a carnivore. While we sincerely doubt that you or any other ambassador would find the butchering of another ambassador acceptable, it does point out a fatal flaw in the way this resolution has been written.

We would suggest rewriting the resolution to ban the eating of sapient individuals without specific reference to their species. After all, eating Bears Armed is equally immoral as eating Separatist Peoples (and for the same reasons).

Should you wish to engage with and attempt appeasing the misguided cultural relativist, we could also provide some suggestions on accommodating morally bankrupt societies while still curtailing the worst abuses.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:00 am

Hatterleigh wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Life is not particularly special. We are opposed to the first line."

I'd beg to differ, but let's not get off track by going into the details.

"Life can be replicated easily. Gerbils do it. It isn't special. Cannibalism isn't especially immoral, either. At worst, its a health hazard and raises questions about consent. Properly regulated, it's harmless."

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Postby Kenmoria » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:18 am

"The urges clause should follow finish with a full stop as it is the ending sentence of the proposal."
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Postby Libana » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:39 pm

Masurbia wrote:
The World Assembly:

Understanding that the universe is composed of beings of diverse cultures, backgrounds and religions;

Having considered that the importance of certain cultural and religious practices are integral to the beliefs of such followers;

However dismayed that there are those who, in the name of said culture or religion, continue to perform traditional rituals that cause irreparable harm or death;

Determining that such actions are violations of the basic human right to live;

Defining "ritual sacrifice" as the intentional and ritualistic act of killing one or more other beings (a) as an offering to a god or spirit, (b) as an effort to control sapient population growth, or (c) as a method by which a ruling class or regime creates or perpetuates social hierarchy;

Clarifying that such "ritual sacrifice" does not include capital punishment, assisted suicide or euthanasia of a terminally ill patient or other medical procedures, or any acts of war including insurgency and counterinsurgency;

Hereby:

1. Bans the ritual sacrifice of sapient beings in all member nations;

2. Requires member nations criminalize such acts of ritual sacrifice and prosecute perpetrators accordingly;

3. Urges member nations to ban the ritual sacrifice of animals and other sentient beings.

This proposal looks exactly like Ban on Ritual Sacrifice.



I know that it does, since I'm basing it off of that. I'm going to try and change it a bit, so that it does not look too much like a copy. I'm gonna be editing this over time

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Postby Araraukar » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:50 pm

OOC: Why exactly is cannibalism in your opinion 1) a problem, 2) criminal and 3) requiring international legislation on it?
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:16 pm

Libana wrote:2. Classifies all perpetrators of cannibalism after the passing of this Resolution as criminals

Theresa Waterman, staff at the Tinhamptonian WA Delegation and self-proclaimed Wicketkeeper-in-Chief: You may be surprised to learn that some people over here despise ambiguity with a passion. When you say this, are you trying to condemn repentant cannibals ex post facto, or only those that insist on carrying on after this ban passes through the World Assembly?
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[DRAFT] Ban On Cannibalism

Postby United Northen States Canada » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:07 pm

Cannibalism was a real common practice ages ago.
My Kingdom agree that such practice must be banned!

But we also believe that those who have practiced before cannot be targeted by this new Law.

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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:21 pm

United Northen States Canada wrote:Cannibalism was a real common practice ages ago.
My Kingdom agree that such practice must be banned!

But we also believe that those who have practiced before cannot be targeted by this new Law.

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Postby New Emeline » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:22 pm

I do not see the issue of consuming flesh, human or otherwise, if the person is already dead and has expressed consent for their remains to be consumed.

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Postby Triangle And Square » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:26 am

"This was a good idea, but have you thought about the people who practise cannibalism a lot?" asks jacknjellify.
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Postby Arotania » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:10 am

We wonder - how is this proposal intended to cover lab-grown meat of the own species? This could even be individualized to meat cloned and grown from the consumer's own cells. We always found in-vitro-sourced autocannibals to be quite charming fellas, though they tend to sit on the weirder side of the spectrum.
Then of course there is the case of in-vivo-sourced autocannibalism. The females of certain mammalian species tend to eat their own placentas after giving birth. This should not be criminalized.

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Postby Kenmoria » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:18 am

"I notice your delegation has not updated the draft in any way since we have commented upon it. Will you do so?"
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Postby Araraukar » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:51 am

Kenmoria wrote:"I notice your delegation has not updated the draft in any way since we have commented upon it. Will you do so?"

OOC: It's better to get opinions and write a draft in peace, rather than edit reactively.
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