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[DRAFT] Resolution for the Promotion of Clinical Standards

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[DRAFT] Resolution for the Promotion of Clinical Standards

Postby San Hieronymi » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:55 am

((OOC: Well hello all, I am sure this will need a lot of work but here is my first draft for your consideration. I hope you don't mind me putting my idea out there and I would not be surprised if I have made some major errors. ))

Category: Health
Area of Effect: Healthcare

Draft 6 - Major Re-Draft
The World Assembly,

Desiring to promote the wellbeing of all persons, and deploring the effects of illness and disease. Understanding that while there is a need for minimum standards of hygiene and knowledge in the medical field, nevertheless realises that not every member-state possess the same level of economic development. Thus the World assembly has resolved to ensure that reforms are made at a national level to ensure that each nation state possess a basic regulatory framework in the medical field.


1. Defines that for matters of International Law a medical professional shall be considered to be a person actively and recently involved in medical care and treatment, including supervisory roles. Providing that this person possess a tertiary level, or higher, qualification in Medicine, Nursing, Psychiatric Medicine, Dentistry, Optometry, Pharmacology or a similar medical field.
1a. Defines that to be considered active and to be allowed to practice a medical professional must adhere to the medical standards required by the country in which they wish to practice.

2. The World Health Authority (WHA) is granted the responsibility for, in matters of doubt, determining, if a specific qualification is sufficient for a person to be considered a medical professional, for the purposes of WA legislation .

3. Requires all member states to possess an organisation or body for the maintenance of clinical standards. and the approval of medical practises, procedures and medications. For the rest of this resolution this body shall be referred to as a NBMCS. Such a body may be either governmental or non-governmental provided it possess the necessary knowledge and expertise to properly execute its function,.
3a. This resolution does not require a nation state to create a new body if a body meeting the requirements of this resolution already exists in that member state
3b. The World Health Authority has competence to determine if a body has sufficient expertise and knowledge.
3c. Allows each nation to impose any additional requirements, not previously prohibited by a resolution of the World Assembly, such as additional experience, for membership of its NBMCS.
3 d. Such a body may be a government department such as a department of health.


4. The making of certain decisions must be done in a meeting or committee made up of a majority of medical professionals. This body must act based on scientific standards and must be able to show this to outside observers, especially to the satisfaction of the WHA.
4a. To approve any medical practice or procedure or prevent those determined to be substantially harmful to patients or the general public.
4b. To approve new medications having ensured they have been thoroughly tested in a member state of the WA.
4c. To compel the authorities in its nation to prevent the distribution etc. of substances, intended for medicinal use, not approved by itself.
4d. To forbid any person not meeting its criteria, or shown to be practicing unsafely, from practicing medicine and if necessary compel the national authorities to aid it in preventing this individual from doing so.
4e. To approve new medical procedures and practices as it deems expedient, ensuring there is good scientific evidence behind such new practices and procedures.


5. Instructs the WHA to assist countries in implementing this resolution and working to improve medical standards.
5a. the WHA may be invited to take a more direct role in this regard if invited to do so by a relevant government department, minister or by a NBMCS.
5b If after an extended period it becomes apparent to the WHA that a nation is unable to raise medical standards by itself it should offer its assistance to the member state..

6. Permits states to refer to others working in the medical field as Auxiliary Medical practitioners, Traditional Medical Professionals , Auxiliary Medical Professionals, or such a similar term in domestic legislation or in relations with other states provided such terms are clearly defined and do not conflict with those used by the WHA or the World Assembly as a whole.
6a. In the unlikely event of a conflict of definitions the definition of the WHA shall take precedence.
6b. Confirms that these professionals, as well as medical professionals, groups of such professionals, including mixed groups. Not excluding medical facilities as institutional bodies or legal persons. The same conscience rights and moral protections granted by this or any other piece of World Assembly legislation.
6c. Permits a Nation or relevant medical body to require a medical oath, such as an oath to "do no harm", before considering an individual suitable for holding a medical license or other medical position.

7. Urges each NBMCS to appreciate the role of traditional medicine and where appropriate make allowances for the use of such medicine and practices, even if only as a form of complementary therapy, within each healthcare system, in situations where it will not cause significant harm or difficulty for patients.

8. Permits each NBMCS to differentiate between different clinical environments and regions inside of a given nation rather than requiring a one size fits all policy in a given nation.

9. Understanding that some fields of practice can be more challenging than others, permits each individual nation to grant medical licenses for specific fields, procedures etc. and prevent those not meeting the standards, set by the aforementioned NBMCS from practicing medicine. This body is also competent in deciding what is considered recent in terms of involvement in medical care.
9a. The decision to impose a specific licensing system beyond standard of education etc. is a matter for national governments not for the NBMCS unless such a national government chooses to devolve this power to its NBMCS or another body.

10. Clarifying that this assembly does not require a specific program of licensing to be implemented in a member state but instead requires a minimum standard of care and hygiene, to be determined on a national level by that nations' NBMCS.

11. Allowing each nation at its own discretion to set criminal, civil or other penalties for those who are judged as committing malpractice by dropping below the minimum standards set in that nation.

12. Permits individual governments and those institutions to which a national government devolves this authority to, for example regional assemblies, to impose stricter regulations than those of its NBMCS, providing that the NBMCS agree that such a regulation requires a higher standard to its own recommendations.

Draft 5
The World Assembly,

1. Desiring to promote the wellbeing of all persons,

2. Deploring the effects of illness and disease,

3. Desiring to ensure minimum standards of hygiene and medical knowledge,

4. Understanding that not every state is as economically developed as others and that standards are best set within individual nation states.

5. Defines that for matters of International Law a medical professional shall be considered to be a person actively and recently involved in medical care and treatment, including supervisory roles. Providing that this person possess a tertiary level, or higher, qualification in Medicine, Nursing, Psychiatric Medicine, Dentistry, Optometry, Pharmacology or a similar medical field.

6. The World Health Authority (WHA) is granted the responsibility for, in matters of doubt, determining, if a specific qualification is sufficient for a person to be considered a medical professional, for the purposes of WA legislation .

7. Requires all member states to possess an organisation or body for the maintenance of clinical standards. and the approval of medical practises, procedures and medications. For the rest of this resolution this body shall be referred to as a NBMCS.

7a. A NBMCS must be composed of at least fifty five percent medical professionals.
7b. A NBMCS must have at least fifteen members.
7c. Allows each nation to impose any additional requirements, not previously prohibited by a resolution of the World Assembly, such as additional experience, for membership of its NBMCS.
7d. Permits a NBMCS to require a medical oath, such as an oath to "do no harm", before considering an individual suitable for holding a medical license or other medical position.

8. The NCBMS shall posses the following powers, though individual nations may choose to invest further powers in their NBMCS. This is not an exhaustive enumeration and it should not be considered that a NBMCS is lacking a power simply because it is not specifically enumerated.
8a. To prevent any medical practice or procedure that it considers substantially harmful to patients or the general public.
8b. To approve new medications and ensure they have been thoroughly tested in a member state of the WA.
8c. To compel the authorities in its nation to prevent the distribution etc. of substances, intended for medicinal use, not approved by itself.
8d. To forbid any person not meeting its criteria, or shown to be practicing unsafely, from practicing medicine and if necessary compel the national authorities to aid it in preventing this individual from doing so.
8e. To approve new medical procedures and practices as it deems expedient, ensuring there is good scientific evidence behind such new practices and procedures.


9. Establishes the World Institute for Medical Standards, hereafter WIMS, as a quasi-autonomous sub-division of the WHA to inspect each NBMCS and provide support to these bodies, particularly in less-developed nations. The WIMS shall also have the power to relax the requirements for each NBMCS, after a full investigation, if it is shown that the body as envisioned cannot practically be formed in that individual nation. The WIMS cannot itself directly change National Standards unless invited to involve itself at that level by the Member State or the NBMCS in that nation. The body though may make recommendations to each NBMCS and governments. The relevant WA Agencies may also provide assistance to each NBMCS and member state, at the request of said NBMCS and governments, in raising Clinical Standards in a given nation.

10. Each NBMCS is required to have a constitution or similar governing document outlining its processes, membership and similar matters. This document must be approved by the WIMS.

10a. If after a very extended period it becomes apparent to the WIMS that the NBMCS cannot create a document suitable to the WIMS, it has the power to impose a skeleton document in the hopes the governing document can latter be developed by the NBMCS.
10b. The WIMS must also approve any amendments or other alterations, both temporary and permanent to the governing document of a NBMCS.


11. Limits the status of "medical professional" to those previously listed, in section 5 and adhering to the standards established by the NBMCS in the country in which they practice, especially in regards to section 6D, notwithstanding the provisions of section 13a.

11a. Permits states to refer to others working in the medical field as Auxiliary Medical practitioners, Traditional Medical Professionals , Auxiliary Medical Professionals, or such a similar term in domestic legislation or in relations with other states provided such terms are clearly defined and approved by the NBMCS, the WIMS or the WHA.
11b. In the unlikely event of a conflict of definitions the definition of the WHA shall take precedence.


12. Urges each NBMCS to appreciate the role of traditional medicine and where appropriate make allowances for the use of such medicine and practices, even if only as a form of complementary therapy, within each healthcare system, in situations where it will not cause significant harm or difficulty for patients.

13. Permits each NBMCS to differentiate between different clinical environments and regions inside of a given nation rather than requiring a one size fits all policy in a given nation.

14. Understanding that some fields of practice can be more challenging than others, permits each individual nation to grant medical licenses for specific fields, procedures etc. and prevent those not meeting the standards, set by the aforementioned NBMCS from practicing medicine. This body is also competent in deciding what is considered recent in terms of involvement in medical care.
14a. The decision to impose a specific licensing system beyond standard of education etc. is a matter for national governments not for the NBMCS unless such a national government chooses to devolve this power to its NBMCS or another body.

15. Clarifying that this assembly does not require a specific program of licensing to be implemented in a member state but instead requires a minimum standard of care and hygiene, to be determined on a national level by that nations' NBMCS.

16. Allowing each nation at its own discretion to set criminal, civil or other penalties for those who are judged as committing malpractice by dropping below the minimum standards set in that nation.

17. Permits individual governments and those institutions to which a national government devolves this authority to, for example regional assemblies, to impose stricter regulations than those of its NBMCS, providing that the NBMCS or the WIMS agree that such a regulation requires a higher standard to its own recommendations.


Draft 4

The World Assembly,

Desiring to promote the wellbeing of all persons,

Deploring the effects of illness and disease,

Desiring to ensure minimum standards of hygiene and medical knowledge,

Understanding that not every state is as economically developed as others and that standards are best set within individual nation states.

Believing it prudent to do so, defines that for matters of International Law a medical professional shall be considered to be a person actively and recently involved in medical care and treatment, including supervisory roles. Providing that this person possess a tertiary level, or higher, qualification in Medicine, Nursing, Psychiatric Medicine, Dentistry, Optometry, Pharmacology or a similar medical field.

Requires all member states to possess an organisation or body for the maintenance of clinical standards, and the approval of medical
practises, procedures and medications.

1. Such a body must be composed of at least sixty percent medical professionals.
2. Such a body must have at least fifteen members.
3. Allows each nation to impose any additional requirements, such as additional experience, for membership of this body.
4. Permits such a body to require a medical oath such as the Hippocratic Oath before considering an individual suitable for holding a medical license or other medical position.

Admiring the work done by persons working in the medical field, without possessing higher level qualifications, chooses to limit the status of medical professional to those previously listed, unless explicitly stated otherwise. Member states may choose to consider such persons as medical professionals for the purposes of domestic legislation but not for matters legislated upon by the World Assembly, or for relations with other member states. unless explicitly noted to the contrary in an agreement with that other member state.

Clarifying that this assembly does not require a specific program of licensing to be implemented in a member state but instead requires a minimum standard of care and hygiene, to be determined on a national level by the national organisation for the maintenance of medical standards.

Urges the national bodies for clinical standards to appreciate the role of traditional medicine and where appropriate make allowances for the use of such medicine and practices, even if only as a form of complementary therapy, within each healthcare system, in situations where it will not cause significant harm or difficulty for patients.

Permits each national body for clinical standards to differentiate between different clinical environments and regions inside of a given nation rather than requiring a one size fits all policy in a given nation.

Understanding that specific fields of practice can be more challenging than others, permits each individual nation to grant medical licenses for specific fields, procedures etc. and prevent those not meeting the standards, set by the aforementioned body for clinical standards, from practicing medicine. This body is also competent in deciding what is considered recent in terms of involvement in medical care.

Allowing each nation at its own discretion to set criminal, civil or other penalties for those who are judged as committing malpractice by dropping below the minimum standards set in that nation.

Appreciating the role of the World Health Authority and commending it for its work. It is granted the responsibility for, in matters of doubt, determining, if a specific qualification is sufficient for a person to be considered a medical professional, for the purposes of WA legislation .

Establishes the Institute for Medical Standards as a quasi-autonomous sub-division of the world Health Authority to inspect national clinical standards bodies and provide support to these bodies, particularly in less-developed nations. This institute shall also have the power to relax the requirements for the national standards body, after a full investigation, if it is shown that the body as envisioned cannot be practically formed in that individual nation. The Agency cannot itself directly change National Standards unless invited to involve itself at that level by the Member State or the national Clinical Standards Body in that nation. The body though may make recommendations to national bodies and governments and provide assistance to them, as they desire, in raising Clinical Standards in a given nation.


3rd Draft

The World Assembly


Desiring to promote the wellbeing of all persons,

Deploring the effects of illness and disease

Desiring to ensure minimum standards of hygiene and medical knowledge

Understanding that not every state is as economically developed as others and that standards are best set within individual nation states.

Believing it prudent to do so, defines that for matters of International Law a medical professional shall be considered to be a person actively and recently involved in medical care and treatment, including supervisory roles. Providing that this person possess a tertiary level, or higher, qualification in Medicine, Nursing, Psychiatric Medicine, Dentistry, Optometry, Pharmacology or a similar medical field.

Admiring the work done by persons working in the medical field, without possessing higher level qualifications chooses to limit the status of medical professional to those previously listed, unless explicitly stated otherwise. Member states may choose to consider such persons as medical professionals for the purposes of domestic legislation but not for matters legislated upon by the World Assembly, or for relations with other member states. unless explicitly noted to the contrary in an agreement with that other member state.

Requires all member states to possess an organisation or body for the maintenance of clinical standards, and the approval of medical practises.

1. Such a body must be composed of at least sixty percent medical professionals.
2. Such a body must have at least fifteen members.
3. Allows each nation to impose any additional requirements, such as additional experience, for membership of this body.
4. Permits such a body to require a medical oath such as the Hippocratic Oath before considering an individual suitable for holding a medical license.

Understanding that specific fields of practice can be more challenging than others, permits each individual nation to grant medical licenses for specific fields, procedures etc. and prevent those not meeting the standards, set by the aforementioned body for clinical standards, from practicing medicine. This body is also competent in deciding what is considered recent in terms of involvement in medical care.

Allowing each nation at its own discretion to set criminal, civil or other penalties for those who are judged as committing malpractice by dropping below the minimum standards set in that nation.

Establishes a the Universal Agency for Medical Standards to inspect national clinical standards bodies and provide support to these bodies, particularly in less-developed nations. The Agency shall also have the power to relax the requirements for the national standards body, after a full investigation, if it is shown that the body as envisioned cannot be practically formed in that individual nation. The Agency cannot itself directly change National Standards unless invited to involve itself at that level by the Member State or the national Clinical Standards Body in that nation. The body though may make recommendations to national bodies and governments and provide assistance to them as they desire in raising Clinical Standards in a given nation.

Welcoming the fact that a number of nations outside of the World Assembly share many of its ideals, permits the Universal Agency for Medical Standards to operate in non-Member States if invited to do so by the Government of that Nation. Furthermore the Agency is encouraged to work for the promotion of Clinical Standards in any way it sees fit providing it does not violate national or international law and customs in so doing.

Appreciating the role of the World Health Authority and commending it for its work. It is granted the responsibility for, in matters of doubt, determining, if a specific qualification is sufficient for a person to be considered a medical professional, for the purposes of WA legislation .


2nd Draft
The World Assembly

Desiring to promote the wellbeing of all persons,

Deploring the effects of illness and disease

Desiring to ensure minimum standards of hygiene and medical knowledge

Understanding
that not every state is as economically developed as others and that standards are best set within individual nation states.

Requires all member states to possess an organisation or body for the maintenance of clinical standards, and the approval of medical practises.

1. Such a body must be composed of at least sixty percent medical professionals.
2. Such a body must have at least fifteen members.
3. Allows each nation to impose any additional requirements, such as additional experience, for membership of this body.
4. Permits such a body to require a medical oath such as the Hippocratic Oath before considering an individual suitable for holding a medical license.
5. A medical professional shall be defined as a person actively involved in medical care and treatment, including supervisory roles. Providing that this person possess a tertiary level qualification in Medicine, Nursing, Psychiatric Medicine, Dentistry, Optometry, Pharmacology or a similar medical field.

Understanding that specific fields of practice can be more challenging than others, permits each individual nation to grant medical licenses for specific fields, procedures etc. and prevent those not meeting the standards, set by the aforementioned body for clinical standards, from practicing medicine.

Allowing each nation at its own discretion to set criminal, civil or other penalties for those who are judged as committing malpractice by dropping below the minimum standards set in that nation.

Establishes a WA agency for Medical Standards to inspect national clinical standards bodies and provide support to these bodies, particularly in less-developed nations. The Agency shall also have the power to relax the requirements for the national standards body, after a full investigation, if it is shown that the body as envisioned cannot be practically formed in that individual nation.

Appreciating the role of the World Health Authority and commending it for its work. It is granted the responsibility for, in matters of doubt, determining, if a specific qualification is sufficient for a person to be considered a medical professional, for the purposes of WA legislation .


1st Draft
The World Assembly

Desiring to promote the wellbeing of all persons,

Deploring the effects of illness and disease

Desiring to ensure minimum standards of hygiene and medical knowledge

Understanding
that not every state is as economically developed as others and that standards are best set within individual nation states.

Requires all member states to possess an organisation or body for the maintenance of clinical standards, and the approval of medical practises.

1. Such a body must be composed of at least sixty percent medical professionals.
2. Such a body must have at least fifteen members.
3. Allows each nation to impose any additional requirements, such as additional experience, for membership of this body.
4. Permits such a body to require a medical oath such as the Hippocratic Oath before considering an individual suitable for holding a medical license.

Understanding that specific fields of practice can be more challenging than others, permits each individual nation to grant medical licenses for specific fields and prevent those not meeting the standards, set by the aforementioned body for clinical standards, from practicing medicine.

Allowing each nation at its own discretion to set criminal, civil or other penalties for those who are judged as committing malpractice by dropping below the minimum standards set in that nation.

Establishes a WA agency for Medical Standards to inspect national clinical standards bodies and provide support to these bodies, particularly in less-developed nations.
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Postby Essu Beti » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:40 am

“There’s a problem with this,” says Inan carefully. Iksana appears to be absent today. “The proposal doesn’t define medical professional, which means that anyone calling themself a doctor could be considered one. But if that were to be fixed... I don’t think my nation has ten of what you would consider a “medical professional.””
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Postby San Hieronymi » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:17 am

Essu Beti wrote:“There’s a problem with this,” says Inan carefully. Iksana appears to be absent today. “The proposal doesn’t define medical professional, which means that anyone calling themself a doctor could be considered one. But if that were to be fixed... I don’t think my nation has ten of what you would consider a “medical professional.””



The ambassador had dressed up specially for this occasion. Having been entrusted with introducing the Kingdom's first piece of international legislation was a great honour.

"Thank you for attending our committee. We have re-drafted our proposal so as to better define medical professional, we have also proposed additional powers for the WA Agency so that it can adjust the requirements of the resolution in exceptional circumstances. We hope that we can work together for a furtherance of the cause of world health"
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Postby The First German Order » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:23 am

The representative of TFGO decides to comment. "I'd suggest putting the definition of medical professional before the part where medical professionals are mentioned. Also I'd suggest not letting your agency change national medical standards."
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Postby Kenmoria » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:49 am

(OOC: Unspoiler the current draft, only hide the ones that are out of date.)
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Postby San Hieronymi » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:52 pm

((OOC: thanks for the tips about layout etc. ))

The Ambassador clutches the new draft still warm from the presses.

"Honourable members, I hope that once you have had a chance to read our new draft proposal, you will again be able to provide us with your help and advice as we attempt to improve the world. I would like to thank you all again for your assistance thus far in aiding our nation in becoming a full part of the international community and a member of this august body."
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Postby The First German Order » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:13 pm

OOC: No matter what, a WA organization like this CANNOT under any circumstances go into non-member nations even if they’re invited.
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Postby Masurbia » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:20 pm

There is GAR #97 Quality in Health Services that looks similar this. Just take a look at it to see if their is any conflicting clauses.
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Postby San Hieronymi » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:28 pm

Masurbia wrote:There is GAR #97 Quality in Health Services that looks similar this. Just take a look at it to see if their is any conflicting clauses.


(OOC: The closest thing to an issue is the section 4b in there but that only speaks about standards of review by the state. This goes a little further in providing a body to fully supervise medical standards. It doesn't really conflict as the body is still set up by the national Government. Section 4c is no barrier as it can always help shape under this resolution though there would be less need to do so. I think this proposal builds upon GAR97 and strengthens what it aims to promote.)
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Postby The First German Order » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:32 pm

San Hieronymi wrote:
Masurbia wrote:There is GAR #97 Quality in Health Services that looks similar this. Just take a look at it to see if their is any conflicting clauses.


(OOC: The closest thing to an issue is the section 4b in there but that only speaks about standards of review by the state. This goes a little further in providing a body to fully supervise medical standards. It doesn't really conflict as the body is still set up by the national Government. Section 4c is no barrier as it can always help shape under this resolution though there would be less need to do so. I think this proposal builds upon GAR97 and strengthens what it aims to promote.)

OOC: I think that shaping it would be a HoC violation.
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The First German Order wrote:
San Hieronymi wrote:
(OOC: The closest thing to an issue is the section 4b in there but that only speaks about standards of review by the state. This goes a little further in providing a body to fully supervise medical standards. It doesn't really conflict as the body is still set up by the national Government. Section 4c is no barrier as it can always help shape under this resolution though there would be less need to do so. I think this proposal builds upon GAR97 and strengthens what it aims to promote.)

OOC: I think that shaping it would be a HoC violation.


(OOC: I think there may have been a small misunderstanding due to a lack of clarity on my part. I mean the WHA can still help shape medical standards though there is likely less need for WHA involvement. Possibly we could make the Clinical Agency a subdivision of the WHA?)
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Postby Essu Beti » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:37 pm

Inan considers the new draft, and then raises her hand. “What, exactly, is a tertiary level qualification?”
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Postby Masurbia » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:41 pm

San Hieronymi wrote:
The First German Order wrote:OOC: I think that shaping it would be a HoC violation.


(OOC: I think there may have been a small misunderstanding due to a lack of clarity on my part. I mean the WHA can still help shape medical standards though there is likely less need for WHA involvement. Possibly we could make the Clinical Agency a subdivision of the WHA?)

I don't think there is a need for another health authority in the WA. I think it'd be easier just to wrap this proposal in with the WHA.
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Postby San Hieronymi » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:47 pm

Essu Beti wrote:Inan considers the new draft, and then raises her hand. “What, exactly, is a tertiary level qualification?”


The ambassador responds to the representative from Essu Beti.

"We did discuss the phrasing of the standard of education required. After some reflection "tertiary" seemed the appropriate term, it refers to the level of education after initial education and further formation and refers to a higher level of specialised education. In many cultures this takes place at a university or similar place of Higher Learning. In those places which don't use such a system the final clause of the proposal puts the competency in deciding on an equivalent level or standard in the hands of the WHA. This oversight by the WHA should allow some flexibility between radically different cultures."
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:38 pm

I'm against occupational licensing. You should read this Economist article on it: https://www.economist.com/news/united-s ... cupational
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:15 am

"The first line, "The World Assembly", should end with a comma. In addition, bolding is generally frowned upon by most delegations."
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Postby San Hieronymi » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:01 am

((OOC: new draft is up, I hope this addresses concerns about medical licensing by making licenses optional as long as a certain standard can be shown to the satisfaction of the national body. I have also reformatted it in a effort to be more in line with the preferred form for such things.)
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Postby The First German Order » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:23 am

San Hieronymi wrote:((OOC: new draft is up, I hope this addresses concerns about medical licensing by making licenses optional as long as a certain standard can be shown to the satisfaction of the national body. I have also reformatted it in a effort to be more in line with the preferred form for such things.)

OOC: National body as in..?
If you mean citizens then the odds are it won’t matter to dictatorships.
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Postby San Hieronymi » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:27 am

The First German Order wrote:
San Hieronymi wrote:((OOC: new draft is up, I hope this addresses concerns about medical licensing by making licenses optional as long as a certain standard can be shown to the satisfaction of the national body. I have also reformatted it in a effort to be more in line with the preferred form for such things.)

OOC: National body as in..?
If you mean citizens then the odds are it won’t matter to dictatorships.


((OOC:National body refers to the national organisation set up by the resolution made up primarily of medical professionals. As not all nations may want to specifically license medicine it seems, it may be more acceptable to focus more on the procedures and practices. Which is what this 4th draft aims to do. )
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Postby The First German Order » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:26 am

San Hieronymi wrote:
The First German Order wrote:OOC: National body as in..?
If you mean citizens then the odds are it won’t matter to dictatorships.


((OOC:National body refers to the national organisation set up by the resolution made up primarily of medical professionals. As not all nations may want to specifically license medicine it seems, it may be more acceptable to focus more on the procedures and practices. Which is what this 4th draft aims to do. )

OOC: You should define it but say "Defines for the purpose of this resolution...".
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:34 am

OOC: I think that "Hippocratic oath" counts as a Real Life Mention and as such needs to be replaced with something more generic.

Also, I would suggest that you separate all the non-active fluff (which starts with words like "believing", "admiring" and "understanding") from the active clauses, like this...
Admiring the work done by persons working in the medical field, without possessing higher level qualifications, chooses to limit the status of medical professional to those previously listed, unless explicitly stated otherwise.
...could be worded more like:
Limits the status of "medical professional" to those previously listed, unless explicitly stated otherwise,


You seem to have a lot of internal contradiction, as you with one hand set hard limits, but then say nations can ignore them. Don't make disctinctions between "WA law" and "domestic law", because the WA law always overrides domestic law. That is, you can't ban something with WA law and allow it for domestic, because if the two clash, the WA law is the one applied. The only direction that such a separation can really be made is when you set minimum requirements with WA law and then say nations may apply stricter requirements domestically.

Also, you do things like require tertiary medical education from medical peeps and then urge nations to respect traditional medicine, which in many cases (Chinese traditional medicine, anyone?) consists of basically voodoo placebos.

Now, what exactly is this exactly meant to do? You set up a domestic committee and then do... what? Many of the clauses are like miniature essays so it's hard to make out what effect exactly they're meant to have.

Also, I suggest you number your clauses to make referring to them easier. It also gives the proposal a more professional vibe. :)

Oh and add Category and Area of Effect (as I presume this would try to go into Health, which doesn't have strengths) to the start of the draft, so people have a better idea of what kind of advice to give you. The information about categories can be found in the second post of the Proposal Rules sticky thread near the top of this forum.
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Postby San Hieronymi » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:20 am

Araraukar wrote:OOC: I think that "Hippocratic oath" counts as a Real Life Mention and as such needs to be replaced with something more generic.

Also, I would suggest that you separate all the non-active fluff (which starts with words like "believing", "admiring" and "understanding") from the active clauses, like this...
Admiring the work done by persons working in the medical field, without possessing higher level qualifications, chooses to limit the status of medical professional to those previously listed, unless explicitly stated otherwise.
...could be worded more like:
Limits the status of "medical professional" to those previously listed, unless explicitly stated otherwise,


You seem to have a lot of internal contradiction, as you with one hand set hard limits, but then say nations can ignore them. Don't make disctinctions between "WA law" and "domestic law", because the WA law always overrides domestic law. That is, you can't ban something with WA law and allow it for domestic, because if the two clash, the WA law is the one applied. The only direction that such a separation can really be made is when you set minimum requirements with WA law and then say nations may apply stricter requirements domestically.

Also, you do things like require tertiary medical education from medical peeps and then urge nations to respect traditional medicine, which in many cases (Chinese traditional medicine, anyone?) consists of basically voodoo placebos.

Now, what exactly is this exactly meant to do? You set up a domestic committee and then do... what? Many of the clauses are like miniature essays so it's hard to make out what effect exactly they're meant to have.

Also, I suggest you number your clauses to make referring to them easier. It also gives the proposal a more professional vibe. :)

Oh and add Category and Area of Effect (as I presume this would try to go into Health, which doesn't have strengths) to the start of the draft, so people have a better idea of what kind of advice to give you. The information about categories can be found in the second post of the Proposal Rules sticky thread near the top of this forum.


((OOC: Thank you for your help, I've drafted a fifth version, following your advice, though it may still need more clarifying in terms of purpose. The section in there about traditional healthcare was to try and clarify that this resolution would still allow unconventional medicine and was trying to make clear that it was the "avoidance of harm" that was the first priority of the resolution. As it does not actually bind the NBMCS it can be safely ignored by those who want to.))
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Postby The First German Order » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:29 am

OOC: I'd suggest removing clause 8 all together seeing as permitting new medicines and whatnot would be more of a national government's job. That or make it something like "if a nation's government allows..." or "if allowed by a nation's government...". Also I'd suggest removing the part where the NBMCS can invite the WIMS to a nation.
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:37 am

San Hieronymi wrote:7. Requires all member states to possess an organisation or body for the maintenance of clinical standards. and the approval of medical practises, procedures and medications. For the rest of this resolution this body shall be referred to as a NBMCS.

OOC: What does "NBMCS" mean? It just randomly appears out of nowhere. You need to write the full name of the committee first, only use initialism afterwards.
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Postby San Hieronymi » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:43 am

The First German Order wrote:OOC: I'd suggest removing clause 8 all together seeing as permitting new medicines and whatnot would be more of a national government's job. That or make it something like "if a nation's government allows...".


((OOC: As the NBMCS is sort of an extension of government I think this would be just its field. Almost a mandated department with a handful of minimal requirements. It merely ensures that such decisions are made by an expert body, and if the national government wants to prohibit something then there is always Section17.

There is no specific name so as implied at the end of section 7 "National body for the maintenance of clinical standards", is referred to as NBMCS I could always spell that out more clearly though ))
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