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by Rovikstead » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:27 pm
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:** RED FLAG ** . ** RING CHURCH BELLS ** . ** BESTIALITY ALERT ** . ** CHRISTIANS TAKE COVER **
by Kenmoria » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:33 am
by Rovikstead » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:24 am
Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: I'm not sure of this, but clause 7b looks as though it may break the optionality rule. It's alright to make mandates that only apply to some natuons, but not that explicitly state only certain nations must follow it.)
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:** RED FLAG ** . ** RING CHURCH BELLS ** . ** BESTIALITY ALERT ** . ** CHRISTIANS TAKE COVER **
by Araraukar » Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:36 am
Rovikstead wrote:Aware that clean, safe drinking water in many nations of the WA is progressively becoming more scarce as it is lost to pollution, the growing population, and unsustainable consumption;
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:13 am
by Araraukar » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:03 pm
Imperium Anglorum wrote:But, but, but, these are all non-problems. Simply create a competitive market for water.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Rovikstead » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:52 pm
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:** RED FLAG ** . ** RING CHURCH BELLS ** . ** BESTIALITY ALERT ** . ** CHRISTIANS TAKE COVER **
by Araraukar » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:00 am
Rovikstead wrote:I also feel that this proposal is agreeable with member nations from all different walks of life.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by He Qixin » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:09 am
jacknjellify wrote:Watch Battle For Dream Island or be eliminated.
by Rovikstead » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:53 am
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:** RED FLAG ** . ** RING CHURCH BELLS ** . ** BESTIALITY ALERT ** . ** CHRISTIANS TAKE COVER **
by Araraukar » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:01 pm
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Rovikstead » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:23 pm
Araraukar wrote:OOC: Clause 5.b. has the massive wording problem. I meant to give you a detailed analysis, but today turned out to be a very unhappy day, so just throwing that bone out, so someone else can hopefully help you with it.
Araraukar wrote:Your title is still completely misleading, though.
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by Rovikstead » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:35 pm
Masurbia wrote:Being nit-picky here, but how come some clauses have end punctuation and some don't?
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by He Qixin » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:32 pm
jacknjellify wrote:Watch Battle For Dream Island or be eliminated.
by Rovikstead » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:51 pm
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:** RED FLAG ** . ** RING CHURCH BELLS ** . ** BESTIALITY ALERT ** . ** CHRISTIANS TAKE COVER **
by Rovikstead » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:52 pm
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by Araraukar » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:14 am
Rovikstead wrote:I plan on submitting the proposal tomorrow.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Rovikstead » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:51 am
Araraukar wrote:Rovikstead wrote:How so? The proposal establishes limits and mandates that protect and secure freshwater reserves to prevent the shortage of clean, sustainable drinking water.
OOC: No it doesn't. Nothing specifies that the "blue water" you're wanting to save, is clean, sustainable or drinkable. You literally define it "as freshwater: surface and groundwater". Which, by the way, is a bad definition of freshwater (if that's what it's meant to be), since salty lakes and salty groundwater exist.
Araraukar wrote:In addition to which, your continued refusal to extend this to agriculture means that you're doing jack shit about freshwater shortages or securing sustainable drinking water, you're barely touching on water pollution. With your current focus, your proposal should be called something like "Manufacturing Blue Water Footprint Limits".
Araraukar wrote:You also still for some inexplicable reason have "evaporation" in the "blue water footprint". Do you understand that evaporation happens? All the time. You can't stop it. It's a physical process that's part of how water behaves when the conditions are good for it to exist both in liquid and vapour forms. So including that is like including gravity in a bill trying to make stairs safer and requiring nations to do something about it. (Which some FT nations probably could, but that's besides the point.)
Araraukar wrote:Clause 2 is worded strangely. Exactly what do you want it to do? And don't edit what's in it now, explain the logic behind it, please. Also, I hope that you're aware that at least in Real Life the worry over water resources are a seriously taken cause for conflicts both internationally and internally, in nations with little drinkable water? So encouraging "actions [that] are necessary for self-improvement in holding and securing their freshwater supply" reads quite believably as an encouragement for preparing for armed conflict.
Araraukar wrote:Clause 5 still tries to climb the tree arse first. If your intention is to limit it to only the worst offenders, the main clause needs to start with that. So the current 5.b. should be the main clause, and 5.c. should become its own separate clause. You also should give the nations the power/permission to fine the manufacturers who aren't complying, and only if the nation refuses to do so, then fine the nation. Though any kind of fining means you've failed to enforce it in the first place, and while I know the WA cannot literally enforce a nation to do anything while staying within the IC stuff, fines should be the stick and nations should have a carrot waved in front of their faces first. Where's the carrot in your proposal?
Araraukar wrote:In clause 7, shouldn't the manufacturers inspect and repair their own pipes? That costs money, so why punish the nation while the manufacturing company just sits back and snickers at the government's stupidity?
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by Araraukar » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:07 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Rovikstead » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:40 am
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:** RED FLAG ** . ** RING CHURCH BELLS ** . ** BESTIALITY ALERT ** . ** CHRISTIANS TAKE COVER **
by Araraukar » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:05 pm
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Rovikstead » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:28 am
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:** RED FLAG ** . ** RING CHURCH BELLS ** . ** BESTIALITY ALERT ** . ** CHRISTIANS TAKE COVER **
by Araraukar » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:47 pm
Rovikstead wrote:Would it be alright to incorporate the blue water footprint limit
and allocation of funds from the Joint Water Resources Management Panel to aid nations with conserving freshwater into your draft?
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Rovikstead » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:19 pm
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:** RED FLAG ** . ** RING CHURCH BELLS ** . ** BESTIALITY ALERT ** . ** CHRISTIANS TAKE COVER **
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