proposal: Government Shutdown Procedures.

[The Allied States of Gondor]

Hi everyone,
When a government shutdown occurs, many federal workers don't get paid. Many families suffer and it is an issue that has never been resolved. In this case, I propose that the government create a Government Shutdown Emergency Fund. This fund will raise and collect money over time. If a government shutdown is to occur, the government can send all the affected federal workers a small portion of that fund.

[The Greater Siriusian Domain]

OOC: Nice blog post. But do you have a proper proposal?

[Orion Posthuman Republic]

This fund will raise and collect money over time.

OOC:
Two big issues here:

One, that money has to come from somewhere. And that is a lot of money. The US government spends approximately 6.85 million dollars per minute.

Two, while I won't claim to be well-versed in WA proposal legality, I feel like this would have to be a voluntary thing — some governments might want for there to not be any way to pay employees when the government is shut down, as an incentive for lawmakers to avoid such a crisis altogether. Still others might already have a system like this in place or have some other objection. In short, there's potential to infringe on national sovereignty here.

[Kenmoria]

This fund will raise and collect money over time.

OOC:
Two big issues here:

One, that money has to come from somewhere. And that is a lot of money. The US government spends approximately 6.85 million dollars per minute.

Two, while I won't claim to be well-versed in WA proposal legality, I feel like this would have to be a voluntary thing — some governments might want for there to not be any way to pay employees when the government is shut down, as an incentive for lawmakers to avoid such a crisis altogether. Still others might already have a system like this in place or have some other objection.

(OOC: Making it voluntary would actually be a violation of the optionality rule; all proposals must have an effect on member nations. The proposal as written still falls victim to the blogposal law rule though, that states that all proposals must be written as actual laws.)

[Xmara]

Hi everyone,
When a government shutdown occurs, many federal workers don't get paid. Many families suffer and it is an issue that has never been resolved. In this case, I propose that the government create a Government Shutdown Emergency Fund. This fund will raise and collect money over time. If a government shutdown is to occur, the government can send all the affected federal workers a small portion of that fund.

Pretty sure this is imposing on national sovereignty. Not to mention, there is no actual proposal here.

[The Sheika]

Welcome to the World Assembly. My feedback to you comes in two parts;

First, if you are wanting to discuss means to protect those who are affected by the most recent shutdown of the US government, you might want to check out the General forum. The World Assembly is a sort of roleplay forum where "delegates" and "representatives" come from their various nations/states/worlds/empires/etc to discuss idea for (or against international legislation).

Second, if you are wanting to discuss this as a possible resolution...this idea is probably better left to individual nations. I mean, it's a pretty good idea that could protect low-level government employees in some nations but it could be relatively harmful for others. Not entirely sure how, but there are plenty of other people here who could explain the ins and outs better than I could.

All the same, good luck.

[Araraukar]

When a government shutdown occurs, many federal workers don't get paid.

"What is a government shutdown and what are federal workers?" asked Johan Milkus, a diplomatic aide acting as the ambassador while the actual ambassador was away, a man enjoying a good enough salary as a governmental bureaucrat from a very non-democratic but very equal nation with a population of about two billion and spanning about 6.5 million square kilometres, a whole subcontinent of its own.

OOC: In other words...

1. Not all NS nations exist on the Real Life Earth.
2. Not all nations are federacies, in RL or NS.
3. What the hell is a "government shutdown"?

Somewhat unrelated OOC: WTF, Wikipedia?

[Tinfect]

What the hell is a "government shutdown"?

OOC:
For the record, this appears to be written in response to the recent US Government shutdown.
Basically, Congress sat on its ass refusing to pass a Budget long enough that a variety of the functions of the Government were outright shut down for a couple of days. Conveniently, Congress still got paid during this period, and in the end, it was fucking pointless because Trump got everything he wanted done.

[Imperium Anglorum]

What the hell is a "government shutdown"?

It's something that happens when the government is denied the legal ability to get funds. In Westminster parliaments, is known as a loss of supply. It almost never happens. And when it happens, it is almost never persistent, because Parliament is then dissolved and snap elections held.

In presidential systems with strong bicameralism, however, it happens all the time. And the lack of an ability to dissolve the legislature and call elections means that they can persist longer than expected. It's just another reason why the US constitution is the best and everyone should use it™, never mind the fact that it basically never happens in parliamentary systems.

[Jebslund]

Hi everyone,
When a government shutdown occurs, many federal workers don't get paid. Many families suffer and it is an issue that has never been resolved. In this case, I propose that the government create a Government Shutdown Emergency Fund. This fund will raise and collect money over time. If a government shutdown is to occur, the government can send all the affected federal workers a small portion of that fund.

Ambassador Sofia Kerman rises.

"Jebslund already has procedures in place to cover the families of those who are not directly responsible for a shutdown. This Ambassador, however, reminds the Gondoran delegation that the World Assembly is an organisation with certain standards and regulations in place. The Delegation from Gondor may wish to peruse said standards and regulations, then re-author the proposal at hand accordingly?"

Hi everyone,
When a government shutdown occurs, many federal workers don't get paid. Many families suffer and it is an issue that has never been resolved. In this case, I propose that the government create a Government Shutdown Emergency Fund. This fund will raise and collect money over time. If a government shutdown is to occur, the government can send all the affected federal workers a small portion of that fund.

Pretty sure this is imposing on national sovereignty. Not to mention, there is no actual proposal here.

"The Delegation from Xmara is hereby reminded that the World Assembly, by virtue of its power to set international law, violates national sovereignty merely by existing. If the delegation has an actual argument, the delegation is asked to make it.", she states in a voice that is the embodiment of weariness.

This fund will raise and collect money over time.

OOC:
Two big issues here:

One, that money has to come from somewhere. And that is a lot of money. The US government spends approximately 6.85 million dollars per minute.

Two, while I won't claim to be well-versed in WA proposal legality, I feel like this would have to be a voluntary thing — some governments might want for there to not be any way to pay employees when the government is shut down, as an incentive for lawmakers to avoid such a crisis altogether. Still others might already have a system like this in place or have some other objection. In short, there's potential to infringe on national sovereignty here.

OOC: On your second point, national sovereignty is not a rule of proposal submission. What we have here is a blogposal with no operative clause and possibly real-life references, depending on how you read the spirit of it.

[Araraukar]

never mind the fact that it basically never happens in parliamentary systems.

OOC: Probably why it sounded like fiction to me, then.

[The New California Republic]

Hi everyone,
When a government shutdown occurs, many federal workers don't get paid. Many families suffer and it is an issue that has never been resolved. In this case, I propose that the government create a Government Shutdown Emergency Fund. This fund will raise and collect money over time. If a government shutdown is to occur, the government can send all the affected federal workers a small portion of that fund.

OOC: This isn't a proposal.

[Shazbotdom]

"Category? Strength?"

[Xmara]

I think they abandoned this...