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Araraukar
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Araraukar » Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:43 pm

Bananaistan wrote:OOC: There's no need for a ruling on the matter. Modly precedent says days and months are OK. BA's points in this thread reflect this. I see no reason to change it.

OOC: Days and months, sure. But calendars? Gregorian? Julian? Lunar? Not to mention fictional ones. A calendar system is not time-measuring; if it was, we wouldn't need leap years. Leap years exist because the current calendar system doesn't measure time, rather it tries to force time into fitting its own numbers.

Or is this you guys saying that using fictional calendars from other sources (say, literature, movies, games) is also allowed and not a RL reference? Or that you can write dates (that contain years that might not correspond with RL time) of any calendar system into the proposals without getting dinged for it?
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:59 am

Araraukar wrote:Gregorian? Julian? Lunar? Not to mention fictional ones. A calendar system is not time-measuring; if it was, we wouldn't need leap years. Leap years exist because the current calendar system doesn't measure time, rather it tries to force time into fitting its own numbers.

Or is this you guys saying that using fictional calendars from other sources (say, literature, movies, games) is also allowed and not a RL reference? Or that you can write dates (that contain years that might not correspond with RL time) of any calendar system into the proposals without getting dinged for it?

You can't name the calendar being used, because that would be either a RL Reference or Meta-gaming.
If you use dates that could be read OOC as belonging to the Gregorian calendar then we can presume that, whatever system you used IC, it's been converted into the Gregorian calendar [if necessary] for OOC convenience, just as any proposals that IC were written in languages other than English have been translated into English for OOC convenience.
Using dates from other calendars in the text [when, as noted above, you can't actually name them there] would be, in my opinion, against the rule that proposals must be written [OOC] "in understandable English": the standard English terminology for dates in the Gregorian calendar is included in standard modern English, and thus is understandable, whereas the terminology of other calendars is not.
(Note, however, that I would still regard any individually-named days [e.g. Christmas Day, St George's Day, JRR Tolkien's Birthday] as RL References and therefore as forbidden.)

tl;dr version: Whatever calendars your nation uses IC, you should use the Gregorian one -- if you really "must" use any dates at all -- in the submitted versions of proposals, just as -- whatever languages your nation uses IC -- all proposals must be written in understandable English.
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