DRAFT: Repeal GAR #235 "Child Firearm Safety Act"

[Pro Life-2017]

What do you guys think of the draft repeal resolution below, I have not submitted, I would love to hear your feedback on it and any suggestions on how to improve it, I would also be interested to hear any possible technicalities that would make this resolution illegal. The proposed text of the proposed repeal resolution is below.:

Repeal Resolution: General Assembly Resolution #235

General Assembly Resolution #235, otherwise know as "Child Firearm Safety Act" is hereby repealed:

Preamble:

1. Recognizing that GAR resolution #235 severely infringes on a youth's right to bear firearms,
2. Recognizing that firearm ownership is a right, not a privilege,
3. Regardless of age,
4. Recognizing that firearm ownership is essential to defense of a free state, Recognizing firearm ownership is human right
5. Recognizing that firearm ownership allows citizens (regardless of age) to defend themselves and their families, their lives, their liberties, their property,
6. Recognizing that firearm ownership is a right (regardless of age) which has existed since the being of firearms (for all ages),
7. Recognizing that this resolution severely infringes on a youth's right to bear firearms,

Therefore,

8. This resolution is repealed to allow nations to make their own decisions regarding youth firearm rights,
9. This resolution is also repealed because some nations, supportive of youth firearm ownership, are severely restricted by this resolutions restrictions on youth firearms rights, because General Assembly Resolution #235 does not define what "education in firearm safety and proper use, and has demonstrated knowledge thereof" means, allowing anti gun nations to pass unclear anti gun laws that deprive firearm rights for youth,
10. As the resolution is unclear, it deprives youth of their gun rights,
11. This resolution is repealed to protect the firearm rights of youth,

[Auralia]

((OOC: The resolution you are seeking to repeal regulates international arms transfers, not personal firearms ownership or transfers of firearms within a member state.

Moreover, the regulations introduced by that resolution -- requiring an end user certificate, as well as prohibiting the transfer of arms for use in wars of conquest or to violate human rights -- are entirely reasonable and are an important part of national and international laws in the real world.

I suggest you go back and read GAR #399 again, because I think you've deeply misunderstood its purpose and its provisions.))

[Pro Life-2017]

((OOC: The resolution you are seeking to repeal regulates international arms transfers, not personal firearms ownership or transfers of firearms within a member state.

Moreover, the regulations introduced by that resolution -- requiring an end user certificate, as well as prohibiting the transfer of arms for use in wars of conquest or to violate human rights -- are entirely reasonable and are an important part of national and international laws in the real world.

I suggest you go back and read GAR #399 again, because I think you've deeply misunderstood its purpose and its provisions.))

OOC: Thanks, I am going to read it right now

[Pro Life-2017]

((OOC: The resolution you are seeking to repeal regulates international arms transfers, not personal firearms ownership or transfers of firearms within a member state.

Moreover, the regulations introduced by that resolution -- requiring an end user certificate, as well as prohibiting the transfer of arms for use in wars of conquest or to violate human rights -- are entirely reasonable and are an important part of national and international laws in the real world.

I suggest you go back and read GAR #399 again, because I think you've deeply misunderstood its purpose and its provisions.))

Thanks, you are right... I will find the correct resolution to repeal.

[Pro Life-2017]

Check out the new updated draft.

[Araraukar]

OOC: Legislating in a repeal makes it illegal.

[Milwalkiee]

Demetra Pachis enters, ready to give constructive criticism.

"Let's break this down."

What do you guys think of the draft repeal resolution below, I have not submitted it yet but I would love to hear your feedback on it and any suggestions on how to improve it before I send it to the General Assembly, I would also be interested to hear any possible technicalities that would make this resolution illegal. Any one who would like to co author this repeal resolution, can just telegraph me. The draft text of the draft repeal resolution is below.:

"At least this wasn't submitted yet.

Repeal Resolution: General Assembly Resolution #235
A repeal resolution to protect firearms ownership rights for youth

"The 'A repeal to [...]' is generated. You don't get to decide that."

Category: Human Rights
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

"Categories and strengths don't apply to repeals."

General Assembly Resolution #235, otherwise know as "Child Firearm Safety Act" is hereby repealed:

"I would not use hereby here, but that's just preference I believe."

Preamble:

1. Recognizing that firearm ownership is a right, not a privilege,
2. Regardless of age, and recognizing that firearm ownership should be granted to all youth's, except for youth under the age of 14
3. Recognizing that firearm ownership is essential to defense of a free state,
4. Recognizing that firearm ownership allows citizens (regardless of age) to defend themselves and their families, and property,
5. Recognizing that firearm ownership is a right (regardless of age) which has existed since the being of firearms (for all ages),
6. Recognizing that this resolution severely infringes on a youth's right to bear firearms,

"Too many contradictions here. Also, this appears to still have details relating to Aurelia's post."

Therefore,

7. This resolution is repealed to allow nations to make their own decisions regarding youth firearm rights,
8. This resolution is also repealed because some nations, supportive of youth firearm ownership, are severely restricted by this resolutions restrictions on youth firearms rights,
9. Respectfully encouraging nations to allow for youth firearm ownership to be available to all eligible persons about the age of 14, with parental consent for all youth 14 years of age ton 18 years of age

"Repeals cannot introduce new legislation. It is in the "GA Proposal Compendium: Rules and General Advice" thread. Additionally, the entire basis of this repeal is heavily based on NatSov."

"In essence, I hope this assistance was helpful, and I shall hopefully be going into more detail later. If this wasn't helpful, sorry for wasting your time."

OOC: I'm not perfect, and I accept that, so if there are any flaws in my reasoning, please help. Thank you!

[NeoOasis]

Can you repeal a resolution while completely missing the point of said resolution? Nope, we're opposed to this slap dash attempt at passing legislation.

OOC: Okay... seriously, wow. Not sure where to start with this.

[Pro Life-2017]

Check out the new draft.

[Essu Beti]

Repeal Resolution: General Assembly Resolution #235

Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

General Assembly Resolution #235, otherwise know as "Child Firearm Safety Act" is hereby repealed:

Preamble:

1. Recognizing that GAR resolution #235 severely infringes on a youth's right to bear firearms,

Therefore,

2. This resolution is repealed to allow nations to make their own decisions regarding youth firearm rights,
3. This resolution is also repealed because some nations, supportive of youth firearm ownership, are severely restricted by this resolutions restrictions on youth firearms rights,
4. Respectfully encouraging nations to allow for youth firearm ownership to be available to all eligible persons about the age of 14, with parental consent for all youth 14 years of age ton 18 years of age

Iksana leans back in his chair. “Let’s see... legislating in a repeal. That’s illegal. Also why are you trying to enforce your age standards on the rest of us? In addition, the resolution does not do what you think it does. In fact, Gee-Ay-Arr 235 says in it, and I quote,

“4. CLARIFIES that notwithstanding the above provisions, it is not unlawful under this Act to provide a firearm to a child (or allow a child to access a firearm) if that child has received an education in firearm safety and proper use, and has demonstrated knowledge thereof;”

So basically, just give your kiddos some lessons in gun safety and you’ll be right as rain. Your nation’s hardly restricted at all.”

[Pro Life-2017]

Repeal Resolution: General Assembly Resolution #235

Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

General Assembly Resolution #235, otherwise know as "Child Firearm Safety Act" is hereby repealed:

Preamble:

1. Recognizing that GAR resolution #235 severely infringes on a youth's right to bear firearms,

Therefore,

2. This resolution is repealed to allow nations to make their own decisions regarding youth firearm rights,
3. This resolution is also repealed because some nations, supportive of youth firearm ownership, are severely restricted by this resolutions restrictions on youth firearms rights,
4. Respectfully encouraging nations to allow for youth firearm ownership to be available to all eligible persons about the age of 14, with parental consent for all youth 14 years of age ton 18 years of age

Iksana leans back in his chair. “Let’s see... legislating in a repeal. That’s illegal. Also why are you trying to enforce your age standards on the rest of us? In addition, the resolution does not do what you think it does. In fact, Gee-Ay-Arr 235 says in it, and I quote,

“4. CLARIFIES that notwithstanding the above provisions, it is not unlawful under this Act to provide a firearm to a child (or allow a child to access a firearm) if that child has received an education in firearm safety and proper use, and has demonstrated knowledge thereof;”

So basically, just give your kiddos some lessons in gun safety and you’ll be right as rain. Your nation’s hardly restricted at all.”

I just got rid of clause 4 based off your feedback... Thank you

[Essu Beti]

“And the rest of my argument? What about that?”

[Sierra Lyricalia]

OOC: Since the act in question (by the way, it's considered polite to post a link to the resolution you're trying to repeal in the OP) really only restricts firearms from children in cases where the child does not have firearm safety training and is not receiving it, I'm inclined to say this simplistic argument constitutes an Honest Mistake and is therefore illegal. You'll need to make an argument as to why mandating that children receive firearm safety training prior to or concurrently with obtaining a firearm, is such a horrible burden.

[NeoOasis]

3. This resolution is also repealed because some nations, supportive of youth firearm ownership, are severely restricted by this resolutions restrictions on youth firearms rights,

How the hell is mere firearm training "severely restricting" to nations covered under this act?

No one said kids can't own guns, they just need training in order to use them which is a damn good idea considering their atrocious hand gun handling in cops and robbers, and/or equivalent games our offspring play.

Still opposed on ground this repeal makes no sense at all.

OOC: You seem to have 3-4 active proposals running. Maybe focus on one? Y'know... quality over quantity.

[Araraukar]

Check out the new draft.

OOC: Ok, now it's illegal for NatSov Only.

[Kenmoria]

"Rather than having nine clauses, you know have three. As two of them are operative clauses this equates to one justification for this repeal, and it is a shaky one at best which probably counts as a National Sovereignty rules violation."

[The New California Republic]

OOC: You keep drafting lots of repeals within a relatively short space of time, why not just focus on one? Also, I really don't see the reasoning behind repealing #235, it seems solely focused on NatSov, which in and of itself is a non-reason. Based on that, is this another repeal attempt that is destined to be abandoned?

[Imperial Polk County]

Drane looks over his copy of the repeal proposal. He turns it over and notes the other side is blank. "You've spent a lot of time on this, haven't you?" He crumbles it up and attempts to throw it into the nearest garbage pail, but misses by ten feet. "I am opposed to any repeal of this proposal, as doing so opens the door to a blanket ban on children possessing firearms. I taught my kids how to shoot skeet when they were young, and in a safe and controlled manner that fits in the framework of this resolution. There's no reason why they can't do the same for their kids."

[The Greater Siriusian Domain]

Repeal Resolution: General Assembly Resolution #235

Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

Teran Saber: "You seem to be making a lot of these."

General Assembly Resolution #235, otherwise know as "Child Firearm Safety Act" is hereby repealed:

Teran Saber: "And I seem to be making a lot of counterarguments specifically against your proposals that you've never responded to or acted upon."

Preamble:

1. Recognizing that GAR resolution #235 severely infringes on a youth's right to bear firearms,

Ambassador Teran Saber taps the back of his right hand against a printed copy of GAR#235 like a certain defense attorney with spiky hair

Teran Saber: "You are in error. GAR#235 Child Firearm Safety Act clauses 4 and 5 state the following:"

4. CLARIFIES that notwithstanding the above provisions, it is not unlawful under this Act to provide a firearm to a child (or allow a child to access a firearm) if that child has received an education in firearm safety and proper use, and has demonstrated knowledge thereof;

5. CLARIFIES that notwithstanding the above provisions, it is not unlawful under this Act to provide a firearm to a child under proper supervision for the purposes of educating the child in firearm safety and proper use;

Teran Saber: "As you can see, the rights of a minor to handle or use a firearm are not infringed. The regulations simply exist to ensure the individual can properly use the weapon in a manner that is not dangerous to themselves or others."

OOC: Your proposal is illegal for both Natsov and Honest Mistake violations.

Therefore,

2. This resolution is repealed to allow nations to make their own decisions regarding youth firearm rights,
3. This resolution is also repealed because some nations, supportive of youth firearm ownership, are severely restricted by this resolutions restrictions on youth firearms rights,

Teran Saber: "With the previous rebuttal, I see no reason for this repeal. Opposed."

[Kenmoria]

"The proposal text should include a line break between clauses 2 and 3."

[Milwalkiee]

What do you guys think of the draft repeal resolution below, I have not submitted it yet but I would love to hear your feedback on it and any suggestions on how to improve it before I send it to the General Assembly, I would also be interested to hear any possible technicalities that would make this resolution illegal. Any one who would like to co author this repeal resolution, can just telegraph me. The draft text of the draft repeal resolution is below.:

Repeal Resolution: General Assembly Resolution #235

Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

General Assembly Resolution #235, otherwise know as "Child Firearm Safety Act" is hereby repealed:

Preamble:

1. Recognizing that GAR resolution #235 severely infringes on a youth's right to bear firearms,

Therefore,

2. This resolution is repealed to allow nations to make their own decisions regarding youth firearm rights,

NatSov.

3. This resolution is also repealed because some nations, supportive of youth firearm ownership, are severely restricted by this resolutions restrictions on youth firearms rights,

False. Just, false.

All in all, it went from a decent first draft to an illegal NatSov argument. The original had issues, but all do. You appear to have just taken out illegal arguments completely instalead of tweaking them to make them legal.

[The Unfounded]

"Is it me, or does this pro-life group seem REALLY infatuated with killing people?"

[Xmara]

What do you guys think of the draft repeal resolution below, I have not submitted it yet but I would love to hear your feedback on it and any suggestions on how to improve it before I send it to the General Assembly, I would also be interested to hear any possible technicalities that would make this resolution illegal. Any one who would like to co author this repeal resolution, can just telegraph me. The draft text of the draft repeal resolution is below.:

Repeal Resolution: General Assembly Resolution #235

Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

General Assembly Resolution #235, otherwise know as "Child Firearm Safety Act" is hereby repealed:

Preamble:

1. Recognizing that GAR resolution #235 severely infringes on a youth's right to bear firearms,

Therefore,

2. This resolution is repealed to allow nations to make their own decisions regarding youth firearm rights,

3. This resolution is also repealed because some nations, supportive of youth firearm ownership, are severely restricted by this resolutions restrictions on youth firearms rights,

Well at least you didn't submit it this time without showing us a draft.

Also this seems to be a NatSov only argument. I suggest reading the rules of the GA.

[Alpha Cassiopeiae]

Proposed by: Pro Life-2017

General Assembly Resolution #235, otherwise know as "Child Firearm Safety Act" is hereby repealed:

Preamble:

1. Recognizing that GAR resolution #235 severely infringes on a youth's right to bear firearms,

Therefore,

2. This resolution is repealed to allow nations to make their own decisions regarding youth firearm rights,

3. This resolution is also repealed because some nations, supportive of youth firearm ownership, are severely restricted by this resolutions restrictions on youth firearms rights,

Whispering to aide: "There's been an error of some sort. A large portion of this is missing. Please get me a corrected copy of the proposal."
Aide, to Albinus: "There is no error. That is the proposal in full."
"What? Are you sure?"
"Positive, sir."

Albinus, to the Assembly: "What is this, Ambassador? Do you honestly expect anybody to support a three-line repeal of safety regulations based on what appears to be a gross misread of the resolution in question? Is this a joke?" Albinus throws the proposal on the table and storms out.

OOC: You do realise that you're making a NatSov argument against a resolution that only requires children to be trained in the safety and use of a firearm, right? Because I don't think a proposal has been more Honest Mistake ever.

[The Royal Green Jackets]

i say 14 is legal age to own and carry without consent