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South Waziristan
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Postby South Waziristan » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:47 am

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Postby Zarsistan » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:03 am

The Democratic people's socialist republic(100% democracy) of Zarsistan COMPLETELY DENIES THE ELIMINATION OF NUKES, AS IT'S OUR ONLY WEAPON AGAINST WESTERN IMPERIALISTS.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:19 am

Zarsistan wrote:The Democratic people's socialist republic(100% democracy) of Zarsistan COMPLETELY DENIES THE ELIMINATION OF NUKES, AS IT'S OUR ONLY WEAPON AGAINST WESTERN IMPERIALISTS.

"Is that because your people are too starving to fight?" Bell asks slyly, "Or because your economic policies can't support s conventional military?"
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Postby Zarsistan » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:42 am

Propaganda! 0% famine in our great republic and our military can handle any western force!

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:23 am

Zarsistan wrote:Propaganda! 0% famine in our great republic and our military can handle any western force!

"So, then you don't need nuclear arms?"

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Postby United North American Commonwealths » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:13 pm

Chuching wrote:
Official Statement by the Chuchingian Office of International Communication



Finally, the SCUMBAG WA, an organization filled with more gangsters than bottles of cognac DEAREST LEADER owns in his collection, has come up with an admirable idea.

There are two types of nations. There are those who embrace order, such as Chuching. These are the truly great nations. Rising above the fray of confusion, they achieve the most desirable form of govenment. There are no more filthy protestors, seeking to bring about chaos. There is no more incessant bickering; just the will of the ever-superior ruler. And then, there are democracies. These despicable nations, rather than attempting to combat the forces of anarchy, they embrace them. The capitols of these idiotic nations are filled with a cacophony of bickering over completely irrelevant topics, with anything achieved a laughable Frankenstein of components each attempting to satisfy political minorities depended upon to pass it. For a good laugh, the Divine Arch-Generalissimo, savior of the Chuchingian people, claims he likes to watch the C-Span of nearby democracies!

Now take every democracy you can imagine. An unfathomable volume of manure captured by this very thought. Now place it all in one organization : the "World Assembly". Criminals walk the halls, demanding provisions on bills in exchange for their blood money to the campaigns of respective ambassadors. Frequent laudation of democracy, freedom, and human rights, all disgusting concepts to the eye of any sane person, occurs. And worst of all? Democracy, in its purest form, is practiced. All of the silly verbal combat mentioned above occurs with great frequency. But most disturbing of all is the SCUMBAG WA's organization to impose an international bureaucracy upon all. Even national democracies lack the the resources to spread the virulent democratic plague effectively. But the SCUMBAG WA? It certainly does. It has been known to encourage democracy in all nations; it has become a deliberate transmitter of the deadliest moral corruptor.

Like knowing spreaders of any malady, the SCUMBAG WA deserves to be immediately exterminated. But the only problem? It encourages its members to have nuclear weapons. An eternal arms race ensues, with mutually assured destruction preventing us from eliminating the great rot. That is where this new proposal comes in. Disarming all members of the SCUMBAG WA would allow the virus to be finally eliminated in the cleansing hell of nuclear fire. With our strongest voice, we encourage you! Go forwards with the proposal! Disarm! Disarm! DISARM!!!

I agree with you anyone that doesn't get rid of their weapons they can expect a nuclear Barrage in the next 10 Minutes...

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Postby The Sheika » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:32 pm

United North American Commonwealths wrote:I agree with you anyone that doesn't get rid of their weapons they can expect a nuclear Barrage in the next 10 Minutes...

I would strongly advise that you go no further with that action, given you have been the one trying to bargain with the rest of the Assembly about how terrible nuclear weapons are.
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Postby United North American Commonwealths » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:38 pm

No one will Listen They will never Change and Someday When MAD Fails which it Eventually will. The Countries that Opposed my Repeal thier Leaders will think what they could have done to prevent it when their supplies run out in their Bunkers and they will have to go outside and see the consequences of Nuclear war.

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Postby Tinfect » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:42 pm

United North American Commonwealths wrote:No one will Listen They will never Change and Someday When MAD Fails which it Eventually will. The Countries that Opposed my Repeal thier Leaders will think what they could have done to prevent it when their supplies run out in their Bunkers and they will have to go outside and see the consequences of Nuclear war.


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Postby Willania Imperium » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:42 pm

United North American Commonwealths wrote:No one will Listen They will never Change and Someday When MAD Fails which it Eventually will. The Countries that Opposed my Repeal thier Leaders will think what they could have done to prevent it when their supplies run out in their Bunkers and they will have to go outside and see the consequences of Nuclear war.


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Postby The Sheika » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:51 pm

United North American Commonwealths wrote:No one will Listen They will never Change and Someday When MAD Fails which it Eventually will. The Countries that Opposed my Repeal thier Leaders will think what they could have done to prevent it when their supplies run out in their Bunkers and they will have to go outside and see the consequences of Nuclear war.


OOC: Ugh...the random capitalization is pointless.

IC: Let me get this straight; your intent is to prevent nuclear war but your solution to resistance to your idea is nuclear war? For your sake, please rethink that position, especially considering there are at least hundreds of nations with a significantly higher tech level than yours who could easily repel if not neutralize any attempt made by your nation. Member states do not want to listen because said member states are outnumbered by non-member states who do not answer to WA policy in any way, shape or form.
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Postby The Greater Siriusian Domain » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:24 pm

United North American Commonwealths wrote:I agree with you anyone that doesn't get rid of their weapons they can expect a nuclear Barrage in the next 10 Minutes...


United North American Commonwealths wrote:No one will Listen They will never Change and Someday When MAD Fails which it Eventually will. The Countries that Opposed my Repeal thier Leaders will think what they could have done to prevent it when their supplies run out in their Bunkers and they will have to go outside and see the consequences of Nuclear war.


Teran Saber: "You do realize that some of the nations of the World Assembly are spacefaring, right? And if you manage to piss one off enough... well... let me give you an example of what happens."

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Teran Saber: "And that's with conventional weaponry. We managed to find a derelict vessel dating back to the Siriusian Civil War that may be armed with a weapon far more powerful than the entire firepower of a Thunderstorm-class Titan in the Hyades cluster recently, so in the near future our orbital bombardment capabilities may even be far greater."

"The Greater Siriusian Domain will consider ANY hostile action by the United North American Commonwealths against ANY WA member state as Casus Belli."
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:39 pm

The Sheika wrote:
United North American Commonwealths wrote:No one will Listen They will never Change and Someday When MAD Fails which it Eventually will. The Countries that Opposed my Repeal thier Leaders will think what they could have done to prevent it when their supplies run out in their Bunkers and they will have to go outside and see the consequences of Nuclear war.


OOC: Ugh...the random capitalization is pointless.

OOC: Yup, I have pointed this out as well, to no avail...
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Postby Serrus » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:58 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
The Sheika wrote:
OOC: Ugh...the random capitalization is pointless.

OOC: Yup, I have pointed this out as well, to no avail...

OOC: When I See random Capitalizing like This it makes me think they're Rambling like a Madperson.
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Postby Xmara » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:46 am

Serrus wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:OOC: Yup, I have pointed this out as well, to no avail...

OOC: When I See random Capitalizing like This it makes me think they're Rambling like a Madperson.


OOC: I think of back when I was on the ROBLOX forums and people would post In All Caps Like This, and when you called them out on it, they’d go off on a rant about how they’re using proper grammar and you don’t know anything about the English language.

All while using “your” in place of “you’re,” and the wrong “there/their/they’re.”
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Postby Gregicstan » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:52 am

OOC: Nuclear weapons should not be regulated. This is because of they, even though deadly, saved many lives especially during the end of ww2. Also, without nuclear weapon research, the good from it like power plants and other energy sources would never come from it. Uranium today is used to save lives more than destroy it!
I feel that with nuclear weapons being allowed for research reasons and for the defence of a country will ensure everlasting peace and not war.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:02 am

Gregicstan wrote:Nuclear weapons should not be regulated. This is because of they, even though deadly, saved many lives especially during the end of ww2. Also, without nuclear weapon research, the good from it like power plants and other energy sources would never come from it. Uranium today is used to save lives more than destroy it!
I feel that with nuclear weapons being allowed for research reasons and for the defence of a country will ensure everlasting peace and not war.

OOC: I assume that this post is OOC (Out-Of-Character)? Be careful with using RL examples when discussing WA Proposals/drafts etc, it is a good idea to use "OOC:" to make it clear that you are not making that mistake.
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Postby Alpha Cassiopeiae » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:10 pm

United North American Commonwealths wrote:No one will Listen They will never Change and Someday When MAD Fails which it Eventually will. The Countries that Opposed my Repeal thier Leaders will think what they could have done to prevent it when their supplies run out in their Bunkers and they will have to go outside and see the consequences of Nuclear war.
"I would love to see your country try to bomb us, a multiplanetary state whose closest planet is 54 light years away from you. Your threats, of course, pose a very interesting question - does your country have a nuclear weapons stockpile? I took a look through your factbooks and in fact, the UNAC publicly states that it has 6600 nuclear warheads prepared at the moment with active production of 20 a year. Is it not hypocritical, Ambassador, to suggest that the World Assembly give up its nuclear weapons when your country itself maintains a stockpile and actively produces nuclear weapons? Is it not hypocritical that you ask the nations of the Assembly to disarm when you are threatening to use them?"
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Postby Serrus » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:53 pm

Xmara wrote:
Serrus wrote:OOC: When I See random Capitalizing like This it makes me think they're Rambling like a Madperson.


OOC: I think of back when I was on the ROBLOX forums and people would post In All Caps Like This, and when you called them out on it, they’d go off on a rant about how they’re using proper grammar and you don’t know anything about the English language.

All while using “your” in place of “you’re,” and the wrong “there/their/they’re.”

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Postby Dominatus (Ancient) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:56 pm

Let's just keep the nukes, alright?
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:58 am

Alpha Cassiopeiae wrote:
United North American Commonwealths wrote:No one will Listen They will never Change and Someday When MAD Fails which it Eventually will. The Countries that Opposed my Repeal thier Leaders will think what they could have done to prevent it when their supplies run out in their Bunkers and they will have to go outside and see the consequences of Nuclear war.
"I would love to see your country try to bomb us, a multiplanetary state whose closest planet is 54 light years away from you. Your threats, of course, pose a very interesting question - does your country have a nuclear weapons stockpile? I took a look through your factbooks and in fact, the UNAC publicly states that it has 6600 nuclear warheads prepared at the moment with active production of 20 a year. Is it not hypocritical, Ambassador, to suggest that the World Assembly give up its nuclear weapons when your country itself maintains a stockpile and actively produces nuclear weapons? Is it not hypocritical that you ask the nations of the Assembly to disarm when you are threatening to use them?"

"I'm guessing that the government of that nation is upset that it can't threaten other nations into doing what they want. Though 20 a year is such a low number, my nation makes 50 times that amount per year. Or we did at one point."
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Postby United North American Commonwealths » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:47 pm

Tinfect wrote:
United North American Commonwealths wrote:No one will Listen They will never Change and Someday When MAD Fails which it Eventually will. The Countries that Opposed my Repeal thier Leaders will think what they could have done to prevent it when their supplies run out in their Bunkers and they will have to go outside and see the consequences of Nuclear war.


"Please dispense with threats that you have no means of carrying out."


Your talking to a nation that has over 6,000 nuclear weapons and increasing with reliable ways of delivering them.

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Postby United North American Commonwealths » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:49 pm

The Greater Siriusian Domain wrote:
United North American Commonwealths wrote:I agree with you anyone that doesn't get rid of their weapons they can expect a nuclear Barrage in the next 10 Minutes...


United North American Commonwealths wrote:No one will Listen They will never Change and Someday When MAD Fails which it Eventually will. The Countries that Opposed my Repeal thier Leaders will think what they could have done to prevent it when their supplies run out in their Bunkers and they will have to go outside and see the consequences of Nuclear war.


Teran Saber: "You do realize that some of the nations of the World Assembly are spacefaring, right? And if you manage to piss one off enough... well... let me give you an example of what happens."

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Teran Saber: "And that's with conventional weaponry. We managed to find a derelict vessel dating back to the Siriusian Civil War that may be armed with a weapon far more powerful than the entire firepower of a Thunderstorm-class Titan in the Hyades cluster recently, so in the near future our orbital bombardment capabilities may even be far greater."

"The Greater Siriusian Domain will consider ANY hostile action by the United North American Commonwealths against ANY WA member state as Casus Belli."


Um you realize that my nation has space colony's on other planets right?

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Postby The British Antarctic Federation » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:50 pm

United North American Commonwealths wrote:We The Federation of United North American Commonwealths Urge The World Assembly to Make Member States Gradually Reduce their Nuclear Stockpiles. This would make the NationStates Community Safe from Nuclear annihilation and Refocus The World Assembly's Efforts to The Advancement of Peace. Also if Any Member States do not Comply be removed from the World Assembly. Our Proposal is for The World Assembly Make Member States Reduce there Nuclear Arsenals to Under 1,000 and Limit them to Tactical Nukes.

Ok first, this would cripple the economy for many uranium mining nations (including me) and start conflicts between nation that have nukes and don't want to keep them. this is a bad idea.

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Postby United North American Commonwealths » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:09 pm

Alpha Cassiopeiae wrote:
United North American Commonwealths wrote:No one will Listen They will never Change and Someday When MAD Fails which it Eventually will. The Countries that Opposed my Repeal thier Leaders will think what they could have done to prevent it when their supplies run out in their Bunkers and they will have to go outside and see the consequences of Nuclear war.
"I would love to see your country try to bomb us, a multiplanetary state whose closest planet is 54 light years away from you. Your threats, of course, pose a very interesting question - does your country have a nuclear weapons stockpile? I took a look through your factbooks and in fact, the UNAC publicly states that it has 6600 nuclear warheads prepared at the moment with active production of 20 a year. Is it not hypocritical, Ambassador, to suggest that the World Assembly give up its nuclear weapons when your country itself maintains a stockpile and actively produces nuclear weapons? Is it not hypocritical that you ask the nations of the Assembly to disarm when you are threatening to use them?"

I am willing to disarm them if a repeal is passed. Also I have far greater weapons at my disposal.

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