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Elimination of Nuclear Weapons

Postby United North American Commonwealths » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:42 pm

We The Federation of United North American Commonwealths Urge The World Assembly to Make Member States Gradually Reduce their Nuclear Stockpiles. This would make the NationStates Community Safe from Nuclear annihilation and Refocus The World Assembly's Efforts to The Advancement of Peace. Also if Any Member States do not Comply be removed from the World Assembly. Our Proposal is for The World Assembly Make Member States Reduce there Nuclear Arsenals to Under 1,000 and Limit them to Tactical Nukes.
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:43 pm

Link to proposal?
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:51 pm

OOC: Welcome to the World Assembly! Unfortunately your proposal idea is illegal for contradicting GA Resolution #10, the Nuclear Arms Possession Act. This resolution guarantees WA nations the right to own nuclear weapons, and would need to be repealed before any prohibition could be enacted.

I'd encourage you to stick around for a while and see how this place works - participate in drafting threads, page through the Passed Resolutions index (see "Extant Resolutions" in my signature below), and the like. Then, once you're a bit better versed in what areas of law are open for legislation, you can try again with your next idea.

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Postby United North American Commonwealths » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:58 pm

This Would Require the repeal of GA Resolution #10.

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Postby United North American Commonwealths » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:01 pm

[quote="United North American Commonwealths";p="32971973"]We The Federation of United North American Commonwealths Urge The World Assembly to Make Member States Gradually Reduce their Nuclear Stockpiles. This would make the NationStates Community Safe from Nuclear annihilation and Refocus The World Assembly's Efforts to The Advancement of Peace. Also if Any Member States do not Comply be removed from the World Assembly. Our Proposal is for The World Assembly Make Member States Reduce there Nuclear Arsenals to Under 1,000 and Limit them to Tactical Nukes. Also This would require the repeal of GA Resolution #10.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:29 pm

United North American Commonwealths wrote:
United North American Commonwealths wrote:We The Federation of United North American Commonwealths Urge The World Assembly to Make Member States Gradually Reduce their Nuclear Stockpiles. This would make the NationStates Community Safe from Nuclear annihilation and Refocus The World Assembly's Efforts to The Advancement of Peace. Also if Any Member States do not Comply be removed from the World Assembly. Our Proposal is for The World Assembly Make Member States Reduce there Nuclear Arsenals to Under 1,000 and Limit them to Tactical Nukes. Also This would require the repeal of GA Resolution #10.

OOC: Repeals cannot include new legislation. First, Repeal, Second, Legislate a replacement.

IC: "We are aggressively opposed to any attempt to reduce our nuclear stockpile, or to repeal GAR#10. If you want our nuclear weapons so bad, you can have them...warhead first."

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United North American Commonwealths wrote:
United North American Commonwealths wrote:We The Federation of United North American Commonwealths Urge The World Assembly to Make Member States Gradually Reduce their Nuclear Stockpiles. This would make the NationStates Community Safe from Nuclear annihilation and Refocus The World Assembly's Efforts to The Advancement of Peace. Also if Any Member States do not Comply be removed from the World Assembly. Our Proposal is for The World Assembly Make Member States Reduce there Nuclear Arsenals to Under 1,000 and Limit them to Tactical Nukes. Also This would require the repeal of GA Resolution #10.

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Postby Dragonslinding WA Mission » Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:16 am

OOC: We need a draft proposal. Also we'll be opposed.
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Postby Bears Armed » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:34 am

OOC
Although NAPA (GAR #10) guarantees member nations' the right to own nuclear weapons, past rulings -- including, if I remember correctly, at least one by NAPA's actual author during their time as a Mod -- say that that just guarantees each member nationn the right to own at least two nuclear weapons (because two is the minimum number to qualify as "weapons", rather than as "weapon") of some kind rather than the right to own as many examples as they want of whatever types they want. Proposals to limit stockpiles, like this one, would therefore not be illegal for contradiction of NAPA. Still impossible to pass, probably, but not illegal.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:40 am

    the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed
But the government can totally prohibit you from owning more than two arms. Novel.
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:18 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
    the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed
But the government can totally prohibit you from owning more than two arms. Novel.

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Postby Xmara » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:33 pm

“This issue is far too overreaching and would require GA #10 to be repealed. Opposed.”
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:48 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
    the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed
But the government can totally prohibit you from owning more than two arms. Novel.

To be fair, you only ever need two arms. Heck, people have gotten by with just one arm or even no arms.
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Postby Xmara » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:03 pm

States of Glory WA Office wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:
    the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed
But the government can totally prohibit you from owning more than two arms. Novel.

To be fair, you only ever need two arms. Heck, people have gotten by with just one arm or even no arms.


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That’s speciest.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:07 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
United North American Commonwealths wrote:

OOC: Repeals cannot include new legislation. First, Repeal, Second, Legislate a replacement.

IC: "We are aggressively opposed to any attempt to reduce our nuclear stockpile, or to repeal GAR#10. If you want our nuclear weapons so bad, you can have them...warhead first."

You won't get my nukes unless you pry them out of my cold, dead hands. And I still won't give 'em to you.
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Postby Entronium » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:09 pm

Plz no

Nations like me need nukes........

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Postby United North American Commonwealths » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:41 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: Repeals cannot include new legislation. First, Repeal, Second, Legislate a replacement.

IC: "We are aggressively opposed to any attempt to reduce our nuclear stockpile, or to repeal GAR#10. If you want our nuclear weapons so bad, you can have them...warhead first."

You won't get my nukes unless you pry them out of my cold, dead hands. And I still won't give 'em to you.


Then we will just grab your nukes from your dead cold hands and you couldn't do anything about it because you would be dead.

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Postby United North American Commonwealths » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:43 pm

It was proposal but its intent was to show the World Assembly the risk nuclear weapons have on maintaining World Peace.

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Postby United North American Commonwealths » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:45 pm

Entronium wrote:Plz no

Nations like me need nukes........


no you don't you just use them to threat other nations into getting your way.

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Postby Xmara » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:47 pm

United North American Commonwealths wrote:
Entronium wrote:Plz no

Nations like me need nukes........


no you don't you just use them to threat other nations into getting your way.


Making assumptions, I see.
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Postby Xmara » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:08 pm

I decided to write an example of how you could go about striking down Resolution #10. This is a rough draft but just an example (and may not be a great one because I’ve never written a proposal). Not that my nation would vote in favor of it because nations should have the right to nuclear weapons and Resolution #10 does an excellent job in protecting that right.

Repeal “Nuclear Arms Possession Act”
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Category: Repeal
Resolution: #10
Proposed by: Xmara

Description:
Understanding that WA member states are vastly outnumbered by non-member states,

Acknowledging that non-member states are not required to abide by WA proposals,

Recognizing that nuclear weapons are not required to defend a nation from outside forces,

Horrified that even WA member states may use nuclear weapons for reasons other than testing and defense,

Arguing that there are far more peaceful and diplomatic approaches to dealing with foreign invaders,

The World Assembly hereby repeals “Nuclear Arms Possession Act.”
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Postby United North American Commonwealths » Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:13 pm

I am making more detailed argument and a new topic for this.

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Repeal “Nuclear Arms Possession Act” WA resolution #10

Postby United North American Commonwealths » Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:42 pm

[proposal=][/proposal]Repeal “Nuclear Arms Possession Act”
A proposal to repeal a previously passed WA resolution #10

Category: Repeal
Resolution: #10
Proposed by: Federation of United North American Commonwealths

Description:
Understanding that WA members are allowed to possess nuclear weapons to defend themselves from hostile nations and realizing that the WA members need to be able to defend themselves if attacked.

Also acknowledging that non-member states are not required to abide by WA proposals,

Recognizing that nuclear weapons are not required to defend a nation from outside forces,

Horrified that even WA member states may use nuclear weapons for reasons other than testing and defense,

Arguing that there are far more peaceful and diplomatic approaches to dealing with foreign invaders,

But also acknowledging that this resolution allows WA States build excessive arsenals of nuclear weapons that are more than needed to defend their own Individual nations and only promotes more militarization that leads to bigger deadlier conflicts that further destabilizes The World Assembly's goal of Peace and Partnership.

The World Assembly hereby repeals “Nuclear Arms Possession Act.”
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Postby United North American Commonwealths » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:04 pm

Because I have Confidence that Nations Leaders will Understand the effects of Nuclear War and Take Steps to Prevent it.

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