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[PASSED] Freedom to Seek Medical Care II

Postby New Waldensia » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:21 pm

Latest draft (1-17-19):
Freedom to Seek Medical Care
Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Mild

Believing that individuals possess an inalienable right to seek medical care of their own accord and at their own expense, above and beyond that which may be provided for them by their government or by their nation's laws,‎

Understanding that medical treatment is a complex issue and requires great care, and that health-care needs can be difficult to adequately treat without the proper resources, technology, training and expertise,

Aware that some nations do not have said resources and training available in their medical facilities, and that some diseases, conditions, and disorders occur in such limited instances that some nations have little or no experience treating them,

Concerned that some nations may be harming their citizens by mandating that they be medically treated within their own borders or by restricting access to new or experimental treatments, thus denying better treatment that may be obtained elsewhere,

Observing that there may be occasions where treatment in another nation may be preferable to a patient,

Noting that a previous version of this measure passed the General Assembly by a substantial margin, demonstrating widespread support for recognizing the freedom to seek medical care,

The General Assembly hereby:

1: Prohibits member nations from denying or restricting their citizens or permanent residents from traveling to obtain medically necessary healthcare in foreign nations at their own expense, subject to any restrictions previously imposed by the General Assembly, while allowing member nations to prohibit travel to nations involved in active armed conflict with the member nation,

2: Affirms the ability of member nations to set their own policies and restrictions regarding the in-bound travel of non-residents so long as such ordinances are in accordance with previously passed General Assembly legislation, and further declares that no member nation is required by this measure to provide medical care to non-resident medical patients above any requirements previously imposed by the General Assembly,

3: Requires that member nations respect the rights of all patients and their legal representatives,

4: Prohibits member nations from taking legal action against citizens or permanent residents who seek medical treatments or operations abroad, as long as General Assembly resolutions have not been violated,

5: Declares that patients seeking medical care or treatment under this act are financially responsible for any costs not compensated by existing laws in their home nation, and that such travel and payment must be arranged by the person(s) seeking treatment, or by their legal guardians or representation,‎

6: States that member nations are not obligated to cover future medical costs for conditions that arise after and directly result from medical treatments or operations sought at private expense by the patient under this measure,

7: Notes that member nations are not prohibited from assisting in defraying the financial cost associated with citizens or permanent residents seeking medical care under this measure.


Language of GA#414, repealed by GA#415
Freedom to Seek Medical Care
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild

Believing that individuals possess an inalienable right to seek medical care of their own accord and at their own expense, above and beyond that which may be provided for them by their government or by their nation's laws,‎

Understanding that medical treatment is a complex issue and requires great care, and that health-care needs can be difficult to adequately treat without the proper resources, technology, training and expertise,

Aware that some nations do not have said resources and training available in their medical facilities, and that some diseases, conditions, and disorders occur in such limited instances that some nations have little or no experience treating them,

Concerned that some nations may be harming their citizens by mandating that they be medically treated within their own borders or by restricting access to new or experimental treatments, thus denying better treatment that may be obtained elsewhere,

Observing that there may be occasions where treatment in another nation may be preferable to a patient,

The General Assembly hereby:

1: Prohibits member nations from denying or restricting their citizens or permanent residents from leaving to obtain medically necessary healthcare in other nations at their own expense, subject to any restrictions previously imposed by the General Assembly,

2: Affirms the ability of member nations to set their own policies and restrictions regarding the acceptance or non-acceptance of non-resident patients, and further declares that no member nation is required by this measure to provide medical care to non-resident medical patients above any requirements previously imposed by the General Assembly,

3: Requires that member nations respect the rights of all patients and their legal representatives,

4: Prohibits member nations from taking legal action against citizens or permanent residents as relating to them seeking medical treatments or operations abroad, as long as General Assembly resolutions have not been violated,

5: Declares that patients seeking medical care or treatment under this act are financially responsible for any costs not compensated by existing laws in their home nation, and that such travel and payment must be arranged by the person(s) seeking treatment, or by their legal guardians or representation,‎

6: States that member nations are not obligated to cover future medical costs for conditions that arise after and directly result from medical treatments or operations sought at private expense by the patient under this measure,

7: Notes that member nations are not prohibited from assisting in defraying the financial cost associated with citizens or permanent residents seeking medical care under this measure.


OOC: I will be re-drafting this to address concerns raised in GA#415. No set timetable on resubmission, as RL is fixing to get crazy for me for a few weeks.
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Postby Flying Eagles » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:04 am

Clauses 1,2, and 4 should be modified to allow future resolutions to rule on them.
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Postby Deropia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:27 am

"We agree with Flying Eagles, changing clause 1 to 'subject to any restrictions imposed by extant General Assembly Resolutions' would fix this. We look forward to seeing changes made to address the concerns of GAR#415. Good luck."
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Postby New Waldensia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:04 am

Flying Eagles wrote:Clauses 1,2, and 4 should be modified to allow future resolutions to rule on them.

Those changes will be made.

In addition, plan to address concerns regarding quarantines and war-time issues as raised by the repeal.
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Postby Aclion » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:21 am

I'm going to wait until changes are made to comment further, and suggest you wait to see the majority opinions before going further. Just want to say i'm glad to see you're taking another crack at this.
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Postby New Waldensia » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:38 am

OOC: my wife had a baby (first boy, second child) Sunday night -- will wait for things to settle down on my end before taking this up again.
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:20 am

New Waldensia wrote:OOC: my wife had a baby (first boy, second child) Sunday night -- will wait for things to settle down on my end before taking this up again.

OOC; Congratulations!
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Postby Wrapper » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:29 am

New Waldensia wrote:OOC: my wife had a baby (first boy, second child) Sunday night -- will wait for things to settle down on my end before taking this up again.

BACK ON TOPIC!

Okay, just kidding. Congrats!

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Postby New Waldensia » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:50 am

So.... time flies, apparently. Going to try to get back on this.
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*will find time to make comments; very supportive.
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“Full support, though I advise against bolding the entire ‘Hereby’ line on formatting grounds.”

(OOC: Also, could you unspoiler the preamble, it is part of the proposal.)
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Postby Aclion » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:47 pm

New Waldensia wrote:So.... time flies, apparently. Going to try to get back on this.

Glad to see it.

2: Affirms the ability of member nations to set their own policies and restrictions regarding the in-bound travel of non-residents
This will get you hit for contradicting existing resolutions. Tacking on "subject to international law" or similar would cover it.
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FYI: GenSec precedent requires member states to treat itinerants the same as their own residents.

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Postby New Waldensia » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:59 pm

Freedom to Seek Medical Care
Category: Human Rights
Strength: Mild

Believing that individuals possess an inalienable right to seek medical care of their own accord and at their own expense, above and beyond that which may be provided for them by their government or by their nation's laws,‎

Understanding that medical treatment is a complex issue and requires great care, and that health-care needs can be difficult to adequately treat without the proper resources, technology, training and expertise,

Aware that some nations do not have said resources and training available in their medical facilities, and that some diseases, conditions, and disorders occur in such limited instances that some nations have little or no experience treating them,

Concerned that some nations may be harming their citizens by mandating that they be medically treated within their own borders or by restricting access to new or experimental treatments, thus denying better treatment that may be obtained elsewhere,

Observing that there may be occasions where treatment in another nation may be preferable to a patient,

The General Assembly hereby:

1: Prohibits member nations from denying or restricting their citizens or permanent residents from traveling to obtain medically necessary healthcare in foreign nations at their own expense, subject to any restrictions previously imposed by the General Assembly, while allowing member nations to prohibit travel to nations involved in active armed conflict with the member nation,

2: Affirms the ability of member nations to set their own policies and restrictions regarding the in-bound travel of non-residents so long as such ordinances are in accordance with previously passed General Assembly legislation, and further declares that no member nation is required by this measure to provide medical care to non-resident medical patients above any requirements previously imposed by the General Assembly,

3: Requires that member nations respect the rights of all patients and their legal representatives,

4: Prohibits member nations from taking legal action against citizens or permanent residents who seek medical treatments or operations abroad, as long as General Assembly resolutions have not been violated,

5: Declares that patients seeking medical care or treatment under this act are financially responsible for any costs not compensated by existing laws in their home nation, and that such travel and payment must be arranged by the person(s) seeking treatment, or by their legal guardians or representation,‎

6: States that member nations are not obligated to cover future medical costs for conditions that arise after and directly result from medical treatments or operations sought at private expense by the patient under this measure,

7: Notes that member nations are not prohibited from assisting in defraying the financial cost associated with citizens or permanent residents seeking medical care under this measure.


Latest draft.
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Postby New Waldensia » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:27 am

Absent further recommended amendments, hope to submit this resolution soon.
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Postby New Waldensia » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:24 pm

New Waldensia wrote:Absent further recommended amendments, hope to submit this resolution soon.

"Soon" can be relative... (time flies)

This time, I really mean it. Soon.
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Oh for crying out loud... Separatist Peoples is going to crucify me again for the "‎" that somehow made it in again. I swear it wasn't there when I submitted, as I triple-checked everything to specifically make sure that wasn't in it again...
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"Needless to say, the Imperium is opposed. This legislation serves only to facilitate medical malpractice and illegal acts. If anything, Ambassador, it will serve to harm many more people than it could possibly help."
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Postby The Traansval » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:22 pm

"The Traansval finds the terms and effect of this proposal to be acceptable and would vote for this proposal to move towards the voting floor. This measure simply allows greater freedom of choice for citizens seeking Medical treatment, which is something the Traansval will gladly support"
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:37 am

I don't really have any objections to this proposal. Unless someone can point out some compelling ones, you have my approval.

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Postby Qwabour » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:50 am

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Also didn't you already pass a resolution like this?

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Qwabour wrote:Also didn't you already pass a resolution like this?

That resolution was repealed.

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We see no substantial issues, although we are subject to being persuaded. That the delegation of Tinfect is opposed can only be considered an additional bonus for the resolution.

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