[Draft]Corruption Act Originally:On Ritual Sacrifice

[Willania Imperium]

Based on the reactions of the ambassadors of delegate nations on this proposal, which have been largely but not exclusively negative, we fear that this will not come upon a vote.
If it does not, we will likely not pursue this further, because most of the negative comments were about the intent of this proposal.

"Thank God for that! And you better never touch it again!"

"You cannot say that you were surprised, ambassador."

We are not surprised. We thought that it had a chance to come at vote, but we were not confident. If this would have come to a vote, or if it does somehow come to a vote, then we would have hoped/will hope for votes from individual nations.

Additionally, we are actually surprised about a proposed condemnation of our nation, written by the nation of Faviola. Our proposal had the purpose to protect the community from the selfishness of individuals, especially those in power, by creating a constant reminder of possible death as a source of humility.
Such attempts should not be condemned.

"While condemnations over GA Proposals are a bit radical, albeit yours is crazy, you utilized a radical bloody way to try to solve it, which was something idiotic in itself."

[Willania Imperium]

“Well, it’s failed to reach quorum. Thank God that there are people who recognize such idiocy act in that.”

[Fauxia]

“Well, it’s failed to reach quorum. Thank God that there are people who recognize such idiocy act in that.”

“I disagree, ambassador. Seeing it reach quorum would’ve been absolutely hilarious.”

[Clean Land]

After careful deliberations, we have put forth a revised argument, with a new proposal title, and some more provisions, instead of abandoning this idea. We would like to hear constuctive criticism about this.

[Imperial Polk County]

"If you're going to address corruption, then you should probably start a new debate so that--"

Drane stops when he reaches clause 2.

"Never mind. Excuse me."

Drane hurriedly leaves the debate room.

[The Sheika]

Well, I was going to suggest you open a new thread for your new proposal, but I see you are still keen on the idea of sacrifices. I am not going to say that corruption is not a problem, but the idea of sacrifice targets all sapients in a nation. All of them. Even the ones who did not take part in any form of corruption.

Also, let me get this straight. Not only do you insist on continuing with the idea of sacrificing, but you want member states to do it in the name of the WA? No. Even without that last bit, I could not in good conscience support this idea.

[Clean Land]

Well, I was going to suggest you open a new thread for your new proposal, but I see you are still keen on the idea of sacrifices. I am not going to say that corruption is not a problem, but the idea of sacrifice targets all sapients in a nation. All of them. Even the ones who did not take part in any form of corruption.

Also, let me get this straight. Not only do you insist on continuing with the idea of sacrificing, but you want member states to do it in the name of the WA? No. Even without that last bit, I could not in good conscience support this idea.

It teaches them humility, ambassador. They will be ritually sacrificed regardless of how powerful and rich they are. The acceptance of such procedures by the World Assembly itself also teaches children this important lesson.

[Separatist Peoples]

Well, I was going to suggest you open a new thread for your new proposal, but I see you are still keen on the idea of sacrifices. I am not going to say that corruption is not a problem, but the idea of sacrifice targets all sapients in a nation. All of them. Even the ones who did not take part in any form of corruption.

Also, let me get this straight. Not only do you insist on continuing with the idea of sacrificing, but you want member states to do it in the name of the WA? No. Even without that last bit, I could not in good conscience support this idea.

It teaches them humility, ambassador. They will be ritually sacrificed regardless of how powerful and rich they are. The acceptance of such procedures by the World Assembly itself also teaches children this important lesson.

"Why is humility a valuable thing for a government to force upon a populace? Why is humility more valuable than the results the individual might have produced but for sacrifice?"

[Clean Land]

It teaches them humility, ambassador. They will be ritually sacrificed regardless of how powerful and rich they are. The acceptance of such procedures by the World Assembly itself also teaches children this important lesson.

"Why is humility a valuable thing for a government to force upon a populace? Why is humility more valuable than the results the individual might have produced but for sacrifice?"

Because humility leads towards a populace that isn't selfish, but that sticks together and works for the benefit of all. Such large benefits outweigh the loss of the results you mention.
What do you think about our recent additions?

[Separatist Peoples]

Because humility leads towards a populace that isn't selfish, but that sticks together and works for the benefit of all.

"This can be accomplished by less invasive alternatives, including early childhood education and imposition of civic duties."

Such large benefits outweigh the loss of the results you mention.

"Perhaps in your nation. The C.D.S.P. values self-interest, and prizes increasing individual value. Additionally, permanent losses to intellectual, economic, and governmental human resources cannot be replaced by the fuzzy feeling of hand-holding and kum-bay-yah-ing. You've now suggested paying an irreplacable price in exchange for an end that can be accomplished in less expensive ways. Your approach is predicated on your own obsession with ritual sacrifice, and your refusal to consider alternatives is, I would argue, a result of your own selfish need to glorify your personal beliefs at the expense of others."

What do you think about our recent additions?

"Ambassador, I've yet to find anything you've written to be even tolerable."

[The Sheika]

Well, I was going to suggest you open a new thread for your new proposal, but I see you are still keen on the idea of sacrifices. I am not going to say that corruption is not a problem, but the idea of sacrifice targets all sapients in a nation. All of them. Even the ones who did not take part in any form of corruption.

Also, let me get this straight. Not only do you insist on continuing with the idea of sacrificing, but you want member states to do it in the name of the WA? No. Even without that last bit, I could not in good conscience support this idea.

It teaches them humility, ambassador. They will be ritually sacrificed regardless of how powerful and rich they are. The acceptance of such procedures by the World Assembly itself also teaches children this important lesson.

Humility? No. Something like this teaches fear. By accepting this, you are telling your people that they should always be afraid, you are telling children they should always fear for their lives. If you want to teach humility, there are better methods. This? No.

[Desmosthenes and Burke]

"Why is humility a valuable thing for a government to force upon a populace? Why is humility more valuable than the results the individual might have produced but for sacrifice?"

Because humility leads towards a populace that isn't selfish, but that sticks together and works for the benefit of all. Such large benefits outweigh the loss of the results you mention.
What do you think about our recent additions?

"That your recent additions, if anything, make this worse as opposed to better.

That you cannot think of civilized methods of achieving goals says nothing good about you, or the culture that produced you, ambassador."

[Clean Land]

Because humility leads towards a populace that isn't selfish, but that sticks together and works for the benefit of all. Such large benefits outweigh the loss of the results you mention.
What do you think about our recent additions?

"That your recent additions, if anything, make this worse as opposed to better.

That you cannot think of civilized methods of achieving goals says nothing good about you, or the culture that produced you, ambassador."

You have not supplied any reasoning why these recent additions make this worse. We would like to hear it.

[Imperial Polk County]

"That your recent additions, if anything, make this worse as opposed to better.

That you cannot think of civilized methods of achieving goals says nothing good about you, or the culture that produced you, ambassador."

You have not supplied any reasoning why these recent additions make this worse. We would like to hear it.

Drane ducks his head back into the room. "And we would like you to disappear and take this bullshit proposal with you, but I have a feeling neither of us is going to get our wish today."

[United Massachusetts]

Lol. So you hid it in an anti-corruption bill

[Kenmoria]

Corruption is a great evil and problem in all nation states, especially corruption of those in power.

"For once, Kenmoria agrees with you, though the normal format begins with a verb rather than a noun."

Corruption leads to the waste of resources, distrust, and greater inequality.

"Also true but still not the normal format for a WA proposal."

Corruption has been proven to be only stoppable by giving incentives not to fall into corruption.

"Blatantly untrue, there are also many other methods of stopping it like awarding rewards for not being corrupt. A well-secured legal protection against whistleblowers is being used in Kenmoria but apparently has zero effect according to you."

Corruption is an international problem, with international effects

"No issues here, other than the formatting."

1-Laws to forbid money or asset transfer to an employee intended to incentivize them to make a decision that harms their employer, without the employer's consent

"One of the better clauses here, ideally however it would have some specific justification for this either in the pre-amble or in another clause."

2-Frequent ritual sacrifices of sapient beings randomly selected of all sapient inhabitants in the nation that are neither diplomats of other nations, combatants of other nations nor someone interned as supporter, potential supporter or possible supporter of a hostile nation;these ritual sacrifices shall be made in the name of the World Assembly and be done frequently enough to occur at least two times in the lifespan of an average sapient inhabitant of the nation, and enough sacrifices must be made that there is a reasonable chance for someone to get picked

"No, no no no no. NOOOOOOOOOO. Please excuse me while I jump out of the nearest window."

[Araraukar]

And we removed the Grossly Offensive rule why, exactly?

OOC: It's still a site rule. And one that can result in Mod action and WA expulsions. However, this hardly rises to that level of trolling. Fairly sure it's illegal for contradicting at least 2 extant resolutions...

[Wrapper]

And we removed the Grossly Offensive rule why, exactly?

OOC: It's still a site rule. And one that can result in Mod action and WA expulsions. However, this hardly rises to that level of trolling.

Agreed on all counts. This does not rise to the level of an OSRS violation.

[Northeast American Federation]

"This proposal looked better until the second clause. I would have hoped the massive backlash the original proposal caused would have helped your delegation come to their senses. Evidently that is not the case. We will not accept this sort of barbarism, no matter how you try to shroud it in 'anti-corruption' rhetoric."

The delegation from the Northeast American Federation gets up and walks out of the session.

[Araraukar]

"This proposal looked better until the second clause.

OOC: Actually, the second clause contains the loophole that would let nations ignore everything else in it entirely...

[Sierra Lyricalia]

"Ambassador, I've been directed to communicate our conditional support for this resolution. The conditions are:

"1) that in Clause 3 the word 'inhabitants' is replaced with the phrase 'mid-level and higher government employees and the officers of companies, production bureaus, or other industrial concerns responsible for government contracts'; and

"2) that all of Clause 2 be removed and replaced with provisions requiring the ritual sacrifice of any government official, political candidate, or bureaucrat; and any employee of an industrial concern that receives government funds; who wilfully offers or accepts extralegal payments, bribes, donations, gifts, promotional considerations, value in kind, or campaign contributions, whose value exceeds the average cost of living for a family of four for one fiscal quarter, and which can be linked beyond a casual doubt to any conflict of interest on the part of either the giver or the recipient."

Steph takes a drink of water before continuing.

"Because while reducing corruption is a noble endeavor, this proposal is trash and will do absolutely nothing useful as written. These improvements, while doubtlessly unpopular and probably not a good look, would at least make your chosen title remotely accurate."

[Dragonslinding WA Mission]

"The Dragonslinding Delegation would like to thank the Clean Land delegation for yet more privy paper. It is my understanding that Wench, I assume she has a name but why would I bother to learn the name of a peasant, was getting tired of trying to clean the communal sponge. The Crown only supplies us with so much vinegar, or something. That being said, we're still opposed. The Dragonslinding approve of the corruption of their government, and those who don't have a nasty habit of disappearing." Ser Dawrin Stone says.

[Clean Land]

"Ambassador, I've been directed to communicate our conditional support for this resolution. The conditions are:

"1) that in Clause 3 the word 'inhabitants' is replaced with the phrase 'mid-level and higher government employees and the officers of companies, production bureaus, or other industrial concerns responsible for government contracts'; and

"2) that all of Clause 2 be removed and replaced with provisions requiring the ritual sacrifice of any government official, political candidate, or bureaucrat; and any employee of an industrial concern that receives government funds; who wilfully offers or accepts extralegal payments, bribes, donations, gifts, promotional considerations, value in kind, or campaign contributions, whose value exceeds the average cost of living for a family of four for one fiscal quarter, and which can be linked beyond a casual doubt to any conflict of interest on the part of either the giver or the recipient."

Steph takes a drink of water before continuing.

"Because while reducing corruption is a noble endeavor, this proposal is trash and will do absolutely nothing useful as written. These improvements, while doubtlessly unpopular and probably not a good look, would at least make your chosen title remotely accurate."

We want to thank you for your contribution to this. We find that your suggestions are very good and have included them in the draft.
We would like to name your contribution in the draft(and later, in our proposal), if Sierra Lycalia approves it.

And we removed the Grossly Offensive rule why, exactly?

OOC: It's still a site rule. And one that can result in Mod action and WA expulsions. However, this hardly rises to that level of trolling. Fairly sure it's illegal for contradicting at least 2 extant resolutions...

OOC:Contradicting at least 2 extant resolutions? We do not want to contradict any extant resolution, but we did not find anything of concern. Please tell us where you see any problem.

[Fauxia]

You don’t even know the name of your co-author ? Sierra Lyricalia, not “Sierra Lycalia”

[Sierra Lyricalia]

We want to thank you for your contribution to this. We find that your suggestions are very good and have included them in the draft.
We would like to name your contribution in the draft(and later, in our proposal), if Sierra Lycalia approves it.

IC: "Are... are you serious? Yeah, don't do that."

OOC: Please don't.