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[Draft]Corruption Act Originally:On Ritual Sacrifice

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[Draft]Corruption Act Originally:On Ritual Sacrifice

Postby Clean Land » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:21 am

Category: Moral Decency Strength: Strong
Lots of people are selfish, and their selfishness harms nations
Seemingly important or rich people often think for them to be above the law

It is necessary that those are reminded about their own unimportance
It is necessary to remind people that they are nothing in comparison to their community

Frequent ritual sacrifices are the best method to achieve this

Thus, the General Assembly mandates the following:

Their people shall, for the purposes of this resolution, be defined as people not being in the nation as
1.a diplomat or a similar representative of other nations
2.a combatant for another nation
3.someone interned as a supporter, potential supporter or possible supporter of a hostile nation

Member states shall frequently and randomly select amongst their people to be ritually sacrificed in the name of the World Assembly.

The times when sacrifices are done shall be frequent enough to occur at least twice in the average lifespan of the sapient inhabitants of the nation, and there should be enough sacrifices so that there is a reasonable chance that one of their people might be picked during their lifespan.

The World Health Authority shall be tasked with checking the ritual sacrifice procedures in each member state to ensure that they are carried out in conformity with this and other General Assembly resolutions, and, when necessary, provide fixed numbers for the amount of sacrifices for a sacrifice date.
Corruption is a great evil and problem in all nation states, especially corruption of those in power.
Corruption leads to the waste of resources, distrust, and greater inequality.
Unfortunately, national governments cannot be trusted to act against corruption themselves, if they are corrupt.
Corruption is an international problem, with international effects.

Thus, the General Assembly mandates the following:

All member states shall make efforts to fight corruption

As a minimum standard, these efforts shall include:
1-Laws to forbid money or asset transfer to an employee intended to incentivize them to make a decision that harms their employer, without the employer's consent
2-Frequent ritual sacrifices of sapient beings randomly selected of all sapient inhabitants in the nation that are neither diplomats of other nations, combatants of other nations nor someone interned as supporter, potential supporter or possible supporter of a hostile nation;these ritual sacrifices shall be made in the name of the World Assembly and be done frequently enough to occur at least two times in the lifespan of an average sapient inhabitant of the nation, and enough sacrifices must be made that there is a reasonable chance for someone to get picked
3-Comparison of the money spent by some randomly selected inhabitants with their income, regularly; and further investigation upon suspicious results
Corruption is a great evil and problem in all nation states, especially corruption of those in power.
Corruption leads to the waste of resources, distrust, and greater inequality.
Unfortunately, national governments cannot be trusted to act against corruption themselves, if they are corrupt.
Corruption is an international problem, with international effects

Thus, the General Assembly mandates the following:

All member states shall make efforts to fight corruption

As a minimum standard, these efforts shall include:
1-Laws to forbid money or asset transfer to an employee intended to incentivize them to make a decision that harms their employer, without the employer's consent
2-Ritually sacrificing any government official, political candidate, or bureaucrat; and any employee of an industrial concern that receives government funds; who wilfully offers or accepts extralegal payments, bribes, donations, gifts, promotional considerations, value in kind, or campaign contributions, whose value exceeds the average cost of living for a family of four for one fiscal quarter, and which can be linked beyond a casual doubt to any conflict of interest on the part of either the giver or the recipient
3-Comparison of the money spent by some randomly selected mid-level and higher government employees and the officers of companies, production bureaus, or other industrial concerns responsible for government contracts with their income, regularly; and further investigation upon suspicious results

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Postby Deropia » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:46 am

Clean Land wrote:Category: Moral Decency Strength: Strong
Lots of people are selfish, and their selfishness harms nations
Seemingly important or rich people often think for them to be above the law

It is necessary that those are reminded about their own unimportance
It is necessary to remind people that they are nothing in comparison to their community

Frequent ritual sacrifices are the best method to achieve this

Thus, the General Assembly decrees the following:

Member states shall frequently and randomly select people to be ritually sacrificed in the name of the World Assembly.

The times when sacrifices are done shall be frequent enough to occur at least twice in the average lifespan of the inhabitants of the nation, and there should be enough sacrifices so that there is a reasonable chance that a inhabitant might be picked during their lifespan.

The World Health Authority shall be tasked with checking the ritual sacrifice procedures in each member state to ensure that they are carried out in conformity with this and other General Assembly resolutions, and, when necessary, provide fixed numbers for the amount of sacrifices for a sacrifice date.


"What the fuck? Hell no, are you out of your ever loving mind?!" MacAlister throws his copy of the proposal in the garbage, empties an entire bottle of lighter fuel onto it and drops a lit match in.
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Postby Willania Imperium » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:48 am

Clean Land wrote:Category: Moral Decency Strength: Strong
Lots of people are selfish, and their selfishness harms nations
Seemingly important or rich people often think for them to be above the law

It is necessary that those are reminded about their own unimportance
It is necessary to remind people that they are nothing in comparison to their community

Frequent ritual sacrifices are the best method to achieve this

Thus, the General Assembly decrees the following:

Member states shall frequently and randomly select people to be ritually sacrificed in the name of the World Assembly.

The times when sacrifices are done shall be frequent enough to occur at least twice in the average lifespan of the inhabitants of the nation, and there should be enough sacrifices so that there is a reasonable chance that a inhabitant might be picked during their lifespan.

The World Health Authority shall be tasked with checking the ritual sacrifice procedures in each member state to ensure that they are carried out in conformity with this and other General Assembly resolutions, and, when necessary, provide fixed numbers for the amount of sacrifices for a sacrifice date.


"What are you, high? Do you think we are a barbarian tribe? No! We're a civilized group of people, and we won't let idiotic things like this pass!"

The Emperor crumples the paper into a ball and throws it into the recyxling bin.

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Postby Clean Land » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:58 am

Ambassador MacAllister, comitting arson in the headquarters of the World Assembly will not help your cause.
Ambassador from Willania Imperium, we find that our draft is reasonable, and we find that decreeing a draft to be idiotic and babaric, without any sound arguments, is a logical fallacy named "Appeal to emotion".

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Postby Willania Imperium » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:01 am

Clean Land wrote:Ambassador MacAllister, comitting arson in the headquarters of the World Assembly will not help your cause.
Ambassador from Willania Imperium, we find that our draft is reasonable, and we find that decreeing a draft to be idiotic and babaric, without any sound arguments, is a logical fallacy named "Appeal to emotion".


"What isn't is your slippery slope. I mean, seriously! From an introduction to how humans are mostly selfish, to full-blown murder! And what? Just to remind people of their mortality? I much prefer watching a movie on it that experience it myself! And don't act like you are the superior one here! You're just a nation founded today! I've been here for almost a year, so you'll watch your tongue!"

The Emperor was obviously angered.
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Postby Imperial Polk County » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:14 am

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Postby Clean Land » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:22 am

Willania Imperium wrote:
Clean Land wrote:Ambassador MacAllister, comitting arson in the headquarters of the World Assembly will not help your cause.
Ambassador from Willania Imperium, we find that our draft is reasonable, and we find that decreeing a draft to be idiotic and babaric, without any sound arguments, is a logical fallacy named "Appeal to emotion".


"What won't is your slippery slope. I mean, seriously! From an introduction to how humans are mostly selfish, to full-blown murder! And what? Just to remind people of their mortality? I much prefer watching a movie on it that experience it myself! And don't act like you are the superior one here! You're just a nation founded today! I've been here for almost a year, so you'll watch your tongue!"

The Emperor was obviously angered.

Oh, now you use the negatively connotated word "murder" instead of "killing", and you use a hollow appeal to authority when you have nothing than more time here to back it up, Emperor?
And no, it is absolutely reasonable to make frequent -and random- ritual sacrifices to remind people that they are worth nothing in comparison to the society as a whole, stabilizing the society and immunizing it from selfish thinking, because everything else does not have any lasting effect.
Only witnessing the death of others solely in the name of the community has such a lasting, positive effect.

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Postby Independant Nations and Guilds » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:28 am

"This is a completely unnecessary waste of life. Especially since communist countries like my own don't HAVE bourgeoisie in need of being reminded of their unimportance. There are no wealthy people, there are no impoverished people. There is only... prosperity. Prosperity to be shared with all good proletariats." - Melanie Aeronwen, Premier of the Confederacy of Independant Nations and Guilds
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Postby Willania Imperium » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:28 am

Clean Land wrote:
Willania Imperium wrote:
"What won't is your slippery slope. I mean, seriously! From an introduction to how humans are mostly selfish, to full-blown murder! And what? Just to remind people of their mortality? I much prefer watching a movie on it that experience it myself! And don't act like you are the superior one here! You're just a nation founded today! I've been here for almost a year, so you'll watch your tongue!"

The Emperor was obviously angered.

Oh, now you use the negatively connotated word "murder" instead of "killing", and you use a hollow appeal to authority when you have nothing than more time here to back it up, Emperor?
And no, it is absolutely reasonable to make frequent -and random- ritual sacrifices to remind people that they are worth nothing in comparison to the society as a whole, stabilizing the society and immunizing it from selfish thinking because everything else does not have any lasting effect.
Only witnessing the death of others solely in the name of the community has such a lasting, positive effect.


"Because that is what it is! It's murder! You're taking away someone's life! Why must we revert to such backward ways to control society?! Many ways, from mass media to literature, to pictures, and many other ways can easily stabilize a society with less bloodshed! And witnessing the death of their fellow members won't do what you claim! Instead, it will incite underground rebellion among the populace, as many will stand against such a horrible thing as death! Your promise of stability is nothing more than a fluke! And stop analyzing things as if it makes you a genius. It doesn't. It makes you look like an idiot!"

The Emperor slams his fist with a slam and sits down.
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Postby Independant Nations and Guilds » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:32 am

Willania Imperium wrote:
"Because that is what it is! It's murder! You're taking away someone's life! Why must we revert to such backward ways to control society?! Many ways, from mass media to literature, to pictures, and many other ways can easily stabilize a society with less bloodshed! And witnessing the death of their fellow members won't do what you claim! Instead, it will incite underground rebellion among the populace, as many will stand against such a horrible thing as death! Your promise of stability is nothing more than a fluke! And stop analyzing things as if it makes you a genius. It doesn't. It makes you look like an idiot!"

The Emperor slams his fist with a slam and sits down.


"I normally do not hold myself in the position with agreeing with an imperialist, but... yes, there are better ways to control society. Such as removing the issue at hand entirely, by distributing the wealth and seizing the means of production... Then there is no problem, and no need for further bloodshed on this issue." - Melanie Aeronwen, Premier of the Confederacy of Independant Nations and Guilds
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Postby Clean Land » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:43 am

Willania Imperium wrote:
Clean Land wrote:Oh, now you use the negatively connotated word "murder" instead of "killing", and you use a hollow appeal to authority when you have nothing than more time here to back it up, Emperor?
And no, it is absolutely reasonable to make frequent -and random- ritual sacrifices to remind people that they are worth nothing in comparison to the society as a whole, stabilizing the society and immunizing it from selfish thinking because everything else does not have any lasting effect.
Only witnessing the death of others solely in the name of the community has such a lasting, positive effect.


"Because that is what it is! It's murder! You're taking away someone's life! Why must we revert to such backward ways to control society?! Many ways, from mass media to literature, to pictures, and many other ways can easily stabilize a society with less bloodshed! And witnessing the death of their fellow members won't do what you claim! Instead, it will incite underground rebellion among the populace, as many will stand against such a horrible thing as death! Your promise of stability is nothing more than a fluke! And stop analyzing things as if it makes you a genius. It doesn't. It makes you look like an idiot!"

The Emperor slams his fist with a slam and sits down.

Mass media and literature are frequently abused by the rich or influential to further their own agenda, Emperor. They are often instruments of opression and corruption. They can stabilize the society, yes, but they tend to give more power to those with influence and thus only worsen the selfishness amongst the wealthy and influent, to the detriment of the society.
Sure, there might be some short-term instability, as it is normal for changes that affect people. But in the long term, it will be surely beneficial. And the practice being normal in the whole World Assembly will also make people accept it.
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Willania Imperium wrote:
"Because that is what it is! It's murder! You're taking away someone's life! Why must we revert to such backward ways to control society?! Many ways, from mass media to literature, to pictures, and many other ways can easily stabilize a society with less bloodshed! And witnessing the death of their fellow members won't do what you claim! Instead, it will incite underground rebellion among the populace, as many will stand against such a horrible thing as death! Your promise of stability is nothing more than a fluke! And stop analyzing things as if it makes you a genius. It doesn't. It makes you look like an idiot!"

The Emperor slams his fist with a slam and sits down.


"I normally do not hold myself in the position with agreeing with an imperialist, but... yes, there are better ways to control society. Such as removing the issue at hand entirely, by distributing the wealth and seizing the means of production... Then there is no problem, and no need for further bloodshed on this issue." - Melanie Aeronwen, Premier of the Confederacy of Independant Nations and Guilds

We agree that income equality is a good thing to strive for. And that what you propose solves the problem of corruption amongst the wealthy.
Sadly, that does nothing against the corruption amongst the influential, in fact it has been proven again and again to make corruption amongst the influential even worse over time.
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Postby Bananaistan » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:49 am

OOC: Joke proposals go here.
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Postby Clean Land » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:53 am

Bananaistan wrote:OOC: Joke proposals go here.

OOC: This proposal is not a joke. What makes you think so?

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Postby Imperial Polk County » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:57 am

Clean Land wrote:Mass media and literature are frequently abused by the rich or influential to further their own agenda, Emperor. They are often instruments of opression and corruption. They can stabilize the society, yes, but they tend to give more power to those with influence and thus only worsen the selfishness amongst the wealthy and influent, to the detriment of the society.

"So you would rather the World Assembly oppress the masses by imposing the ritualistic murder of millions of people? It's like the Holocaust all over again. Besides, isn't ritual murder...."

Drane stops. He pulls out a copy of passed resolutions, thumbs through them for awhile, and looks up.

"Well now. Thank you, ambassador, like a snowbird on the Gold Coast, I have seen the light."

He exits the debate hall.
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Postby Bananaistan » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:05 am

Clean Land wrote:
Bananaistan wrote:OOC: Joke proposals go here.

OOC: This proposal is not a joke. What makes you think so?


OOC: "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck."

Others may entertain this nonsense. I won't.

I suggest that you familiarise yourself with existing resolutions before continuing here.
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Postby Clean Land » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:10 am

Imperial Polk County wrote:
Clean Land wrote:Mass media and literature are frequently abused by the rich or influential to further their own agenda, Emperor. They are often instruments of opression and corruption. They can stabilize the society, yes, but they tend to give more power to those with influence and thus only worsen the selfishness amongst the wealthy and influent, to the detriment of the society.

"So you would rather the World Assembly oppress the masses by imposing the ritualistic murder of millions of people? It's like the Holocaust all over again. Besides, isn't ritual murder...."

Drane stops. He pulls out a copy of passed resolutions, thumbs through them for awhile, and looks up.

"Well now. Thank you, ambassador, like a snowbird on the Gold Coast, I have seen the light."

He exits the debate hall.

We know what you refer to as the Holocaust, and we say that that was absolutely horrible.
Unlike the Holocaust, random ritual sacrifice does not discriminate amongst people and cannot be used by parts of the society to get rid of a minority they hate or to opress them(and killing/opressing a group of people to get rid of them out of spite is not something we support).
Bananaistan wrote:
Clean Land wrote:OOC: This proposal is not a joke. What makes you think so?


OOC: "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck."

Others may entertain this nonsense. I won't.

I suggest that you familiarise yourself with existing resolutions before continuing here.

OOC:We have read existing resolutions and the rules...
and have not found any problems that would force us not to submit this draft as a proposal. So please tell us: What is your problem? Did we miss something?
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:44 am

"Not only do we find this reprehensible, we do not see the normative benefit of engaging in ritual sacrifice. We do not see the benefit of reminding individuals of their insignificance, as our government system values individual rights, often above those of the state. We do not see the value in placing a looming threat over citizens, as it will likely increase anxiety and anti-government sentiment at senseless slaughter. We do not see how this incentivizes any nation to join the World Assembly, as it is against a nation's best interests to alienate their population and kill it's own people for no reason other than ritual. We oppose this, will use our considerable influence in scuttling any chance this has in passing, and will cheerfully loophole it out of existence should it pass."

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Postby Lexium » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:58 am

"... You want me to send my citizens to their deaths to remind people that they are to be humble."
The Emperor furiously tears his copy of the proposal to pieces.
"If you think you are allowed to send innocent people to their deaths for the sole reason that some people need to be put in their places, then you are a hypocrite. You are the very thing you pretend to fight : An arrogant whelp who thinks he is above all !"
The Emperor stands up, red with anger.
"You need to be reminded of your place : The history books, as the author of the most insane proposal this assembly ever discussed, and as an arrogant madman. I presume I do not need to state if i support this proposal."
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:28 am

"This proposal really is of no remarkable benefit," Ambassador Blackbourne remarks, "But the random selection is what kills it. Imagine that your nation is in a protracted war with its enemies, but is on the verge of a scientific breakthrough, of which the resulting weapon may win the war. And then by chance, the project head and a few key scientists come up for ritual slaughter, delaying the project significantly, and the war is lost. This is not beneficial."
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Postby Willania Imperium » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:32 am

Clean Land wrote:
Willania Imperium wrote:
"Because that is what it is! It's murder! You're taking away someone's life! Why must we revert to such backward ways to control society?! Many ways, from mass media to literature, to pictures, and many other ways can easily stabilize a society with less bloodshed! And witnessing the death of their fellow members won't do what you claim! Instead, it will incite underground rebellion among the populace, as many will stand against such a horrible thing as death! Your promise of stability is nothing more than a fluke! And stop analyzing things as if it makes you a genius. It doesn't. It makes you look like an idiot!"

The Emperor slams his fist with a slam and sits down.

Mass media and literature are frequently abused by the rich or influential to further their own agenda, Emperor. They are often instruments of opression and corruption. They can stabilize the society, yes, but they tend to give more power to those with influence and thus only worsen the selfishness amongst the wealthy and influent, to the detriment of the society.
Sure, there might be some short-term instability, as it is normal for changes that affect people. But in the long term, it will be surely beneficial. And the practice being normal in the whole World Assembly will also make people accept it.


“So instead of just, oh I don’t know, making the news more honest, we’re going to be committing genocide on all? No, I’m sorry. You can’t argue your way out of this. This is shit. This argument of yours is shit. And you, Ambassador, and your nation is shit. I apologize for this rude tone, but I have reached the end of my patience. This will never be sent to vote. Throw it in the trash, along with your entire nation. Good day!”

The Emperor leaves, steaming mad, as the door to the hall slams with force.
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Desmosthenes and Burke
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Posts: 770
Founded: Oct 07, 2017
Corporate Bordello

Postby Desmosthenes and Burke » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:45 am

OOC: I am slightly appalled that the OP seems to be correct. We appear to have never actually passed anything that, at least by a cursory glance, prohibits doing this. Not that that makes this OK in any way.

IC: The Burkean delegation expresses its regret at cancelling the ambassadors comments. She appears to have temporarily fainted, and her attaché is incapable of coherent speech due to the foam in his mouth. Nevertheless, you may consider our position to be extreme disapproval, and concern for the mental stability of the...we can't quite bring ourselves to use the term honorable... ambassador.
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Kenmoria
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Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:59 am

All of the below is OOC as the IC ambassador will be too busy jumping out the nearest window to critique this.

Clean Land wrote:Category: Moral Decency Strength: Strong
Lots of people are selfish, and their selfishness harms nations
Seemingly important or rich people often think for them to be above the law

Completely the wrong format for a pre-amble it should be something along the line of:
RECOGNIZING many WA citizens are selfish and this can harm member states
KNOWING that rich or important people consider themselves above the law

It is necessary that those are reminded about their own unimportance

It should be 'they' not 'those' in this sentence. Also, this is a rather large logical leap from, "People are selfish," to "People are unimportant."
It is necessary to remind people that they are nothing in comparison to their community

Once again a rather large logical leap, and factually incorrect. If there are only three people in the community then each person is worthy 1/3 of the community.
Frequent ritual sacrifices are the best method to achieve this

No.
Thus, the General Assembly decrees the following:

Member states shall frequently and randomly select people to be ritually sacrificed in the name of the World Assembly.
Randomly? What if they Prime Minister is selected, or the best doctor, or a foreign embassy staff member?

This is all I can be bothered to spend on this but suffice to say there are much, much better things to tackle than this.
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Essu Beti
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Founded: Apr 24, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Essu Beti » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:15 am

((OOC: This concept was ripped from Ikigami: the Ultimate Limit, wasn't it? The "reason" behind it, at least, though obviously not the means.))
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The Ambassador of Essu Beti is Iksana Gayan and he's an elf. He’s irritable and a damn troll and everything he says is IC only. I would never be so tactless OOC.

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Fauxia
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Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Fauxia » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:56 pm

“Disgusting proposal, are you insane? Actually, you probably are.”
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States of Glory WA Office
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Founded: Jul 26, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby States of Glory WA Office » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:38 pm

Fairburn: I think this is a solid idea. I would like to nominate the good Ambassador from Clean Land as the first sacrificial victim.
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