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[Abandoned]Gender Neutral Driver's Licenses and Health Cards

Postby New Gren Artle » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:17 pm

This is what I have so far, please feel free to give your opinions and suggest improvements.

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All member nations must;

a. Provide recipients with an option "X", which is neither male or female, on both Government Issued Driver's Licenses and Health Cards.

b. Not deny any individual who chooses the X option from obtaining a Driver's License or Health Card solely for this reason.

c. Not make the price of either the Driver's License and the Health Card different (higher or lower) than it normally would be for male and female identifying individuals within the nation.

d. Not make the qualifications to obtain a Driver's License or Health Card for a non- gender identifying individual any different than they would be for a gender identifying individual.

e. Create and distribute this new option on Driver's Licenses and Health Cards within one year of this act being issued.

f. Not discourage citizens from choosing the X option.

This act defines gender neutral as someone who does not and does not want to identify as either male or female, therefore remaining neutral.

Clarifying, this act does not discourage citizens from choosing the male or female option and is not meant to make people feel uncomfortable. This act's sole purpose is to provide gender neutral individuals with an option, instead of making them feel like they have to identify as one or the other for something as important as a Health Card and Driver's License.
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Postby Bananaistan » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:24 pm

OOC: This is already covered by section 5 of GAR#91 A Convention on Gender.
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:57 pm

Bananaistan wrote:OOC: This is already covered by section 5 of GAR#91 A Convention on Gender.

OOC: Specifically by this bit:
Convention on Gender wrote:4) No intersex, transgender or intergender person shall be forced to choose to fit in any gender; persons are free to keep whatever life-compatible features Nature gave them. They shall be recognized as “intersex” (or culturally equivalent gender terms) if documents require gender identification;
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Postby Herby » Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:03 pm

Ehhh this don't seem like a bad idea wait wait wait did you say dr-- dr-- dr-- the ehhhhh the D-word? No no no no no ehhhh no we ehhhh we don't talk about the ehhhh the D-R-I-vers if ya don't mind. **shudder**
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Postby Serrus » Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:55 pm

Herby wrote:Ehhh this don't seem like a bad idea wait wait wait did you say dr-- dr-- dr-- the ehhhhh the D-word? No no no no no ehhhh no we ehhhh we don't talk about the ehhhh the D-R-I-vers if ya don't mind. **shudder**

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Postby Essu Beti » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:20 pm

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Postby Serrus » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:38 pm

Essu Beti wrote:"What the actual fuck is a Health Card?" asks Iksana. "I know what a driver's license is, and we don't have 'em in Essu Beti, but what's a Health Card?"

"It's an insurance thing for nations with more advanced healthcare, not that yours is bad, just less advanced, not that that's a bad thing."
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Ethel mermania wrote:maybe japan wanted the zombie attack.

Possible. Zombies are cool now.

Eastern Raarothorgren wrote:News websites are good and reasonable soruces of information or they would not be on the internet if they were saying things that were incorrect.

This is why rules exist, kids!
Keshiland wrote:I am yes arguing that the 1st 4 are not binding to the states and yes I know that in most Republican states they would ban the freedom of religion and the freedom of essembally but I don't live there and I hate guns!

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Postby Dark wolf nation » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:41 pm

Herby wrote:Ehhh this don't seem like a bad idea wait wait wait did you say dr-- dr-- dr-- the ehhhhh the D-word? No no no no no ehhhh no we ehhhh we don't talk about the ehhhh the D-R-I-vers if ya don't mind. **shudder**

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Postby Neo Humanity » Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:38 pm

"This proposal goes to display the obvious hypocrisy exercises by those nations who claimed to be proud of their freedom ideologies, but in reality display blatantly their desires to control the cultures, choices, ideas, and morality of their populations. They claimed that it is for the good of their people, but it's actually for the good of their financial statistics. Unlike us, who focused on morality and humanism, they're willing to allow their people to be in a totally disadvantageous situations, so long as their government get something good out of it."

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Postby Essu Beti » Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:58 pm

"Five hells, how did you get that from this?" Iksana doesn't say 'you nutcase' out loud, but it's clear from his facial expression that he's thinking it really hard.
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Postby The Greater Siriusian Domain » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:17 pm

Neo Humanity wrote:"This proposal goes to display the obvious hypocrisy exercises by those nations who claimed to be proud of their freedom ideologies, but in reality display blatantly their desires to control the cultures, choices, ideas, and morality of their populations. They claimed that it is for the good of their people, but it's actually for the good of their financial statistics. Unlike us, who focused on morality and humanism, they're willing to allow their people to be in a totally disadvantageous situations, so long as their government get something good out of it."

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Postby Neo Humanity » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:43 pm

Essu Beti wrote:"Five hells, how did you get that from this?" Iksana doesn't say 'you nutcase' out loud, but it's clear from his facial expression that he's thinking it really hard.


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When asked about how to respond to the inquiries from Essu Beti, the Grand Sages responded:

'The perception of freedom is twisted within the nation of freedom ideologies, they claimed to provide freedom for their citizens but in actuality they limited the choices for their citizens to only those where it fit their ideas of how freedom should be. Their government are the friends to those who have the same ideas, but oppressors to those who does not. It is unfortunate for that we have no obligation to enlighten those who are beyond our reach, but it is necessary for us to spark the light of hope, for them to realize their mistakes.'
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The Greater Siriusian Domain wrote:Teran Saber: "If you think this isn't a fit for your nation, then you should leave the world assembly. This proposal is actually a duplicate of existing legislation."


"Such is unfortunate for the world to see, that there's leaders who blatantly suggests that World Assembly should not be participated by those who does not hold the same opinion with the majority, should not helped to shape the world we shared for better future, and should not help straighten the courses of World Assembly back onto the proper tracks. However, to those who are not willing to listen to the voice of opposition but to the voice of themselves, Neo Humanity Empire will not back down for His responsibility in the world stage, and will not compromise the humanity and better future of mankind for so-called 'bandwagoning' "

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Postby Flowrisa » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:42 pm

"What the heck is a health card?" Alexis says. "We don't have these things called health cards."
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Postby Attempted Socialism » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:47 am

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Postby New Gren Artle » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:59 am

Kenmoria wrote:Category? Strength?



In my opinion, the category should be human rights because I think everyone has the right not to identify as male or female if they don't want to, especially in a government document. The strength would most likely be mild or significant.

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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:04 pm

Alexander Smith, Tinhamptonian Delegate-Ambassador to the World Assembly: We don't have health cards... but we have free healthcare. And besides, the pretitle - where is it?
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Postby Bananaistan » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:23 pm

OOC: Why are we still discussing this? It has already been done.

@ New Gren Artle, before posting your next idea, please search the passed resolutions thread. For example, had you searched the word gender, you would have realised that GAR#91 A Convention on Gender exists.
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Postby NeoOasis » Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:30 pm

What about passports, gun licenses, drug cards, dental, and legally binding contracts? Can does just have the standard black/white binary choices? You've left one hell of a loophole there bud. We're gonna ask you get back to it after expanding on this proposal. Otherwise this thing is uselessly narrow in its scope.
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:01 am

NeoOasis wrote:What about passports, gun licenses, drug cards, dental, and legally binding contracts?

OOC: All of them already covered by the existing resolution.
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Postby The Greater Siriusian Domain » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:37 am

Neo Humanity wrote:
The Greater Siriusian Domain wrote:Teran Saber: "If you think this isn't a fit for your nation, then you should leave the world assembly. This proposal is actually a duplicate of existing legislation."


"Such is unfortunate for the world to see, that there's leaders who blatantly suggests that World Assembly should not be participated by those who does not hold the same opinion with the majority, should not helped to shape the world we shared for better future, and should not help straighten the courses of World Assembly back onto the proper tracks. However, to those who are not willing to listen to the voice of opposition but to the voice of themselves, Neo Humanity Empire will not back down for His responsibility in the world stage, and will not compromise the humanity and better future of mankind for so-called 'bandwagoning' "

- spokesperson of Holy Palace


Teran Saber: "It's not a matter of trying to 'guide' the world assembly 'back' to whatever dogmatic view you see fit, nor is it a matter of agreeing or disagreeing with the majority. As long as your nation is a member of the World Assembly, you are beholden to its legislation regardless of your views. Based on your statements I can only assume that your nation is intentionally non-compliant with WA legislation, and as you have confessed to such I would not be surprised if people start enacting sanctions and embargos against your nation in response."

"WA legislation is voted on democratically. If you feel that a particular proposal is not beneficial, then make a repeal proposal. Preaching and whining about it will get you nowhere."
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This nation's factbook supersedes NS stats and issues, but does not completely replace them. If there is a conflict, the Factbook is correct.

Isentran has been DENOUNCED for proposing legislation that would destroy the economy of the Greater Siriusian Domain
The Greater Siriusian Domain is a borderline Class Z9 Civilization according to this scale

Primary Ambassador: Teran Saber, Male Siriusian. Snarky, slightly arrogant.
Substitute Ambassador: Ra'lingth, Male En'gari. Speaks with emphasized "s" sounds.


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