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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:11 am

Araraukar wrote:Added votes so far (Tinfect being latest). Also, anyone putting in a number other than the options given, gets put in option 4 (*glares at SP and Banana*). If someone starts putting in strange numbers like the pi or e or such, I'll just ignore them. If we want any changes made, we need to actually be serious about making them.

I don't want option 4. I want option J-5. If it doesn't exist, then I abstain entirely! :P

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Postby Bananaistan » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:12 am

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:Option 2. That whole first bit is extraneous and redundant.


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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:59 am

Option 1.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:51 am

Option 1, absent removal of the stupid etymology filler from both the contradiction and duplication rules. Snout-counting should not be necessary for a change this simple.

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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:58 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Snout-counting should not be necessary for a change this simple.

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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:25 am

Option i.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:37 pm

Wrapper wrote:
Araraukar wrote:My vote is option 2

Bananaistan wrote:Option 5 for me.

Fauxia wrote:I support Option 1

So much for "A change we can probably all agree on".

You were saying? :p
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Postby Auralia » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:49 pm

States of Glory WA Office wrote:In addition to the proposed change, I would like to suggest the addition of a 'Repetition' rule:

'Resolutions are not allowed to repeat the mandates of prior resolutions, render prior resolutions redundant through their active clauses, overlap with prior resolutions or repeat the mandates of prior resolutions.'

I just want to be on record as opposing this proposed change for the reasons I outline in this post.
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:52 pm

Option 1.
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Postby Araraukar » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:00 pm

Added votes for up to Cekoviu (though I've no idea who you are, your vote's been counted anyway), moved Banana's to an actual choice and removed SP's (and sent it back to him with extreme prejudice). :P

Just wondering if I dare to poke Fris for a vote... :unsure: Wrapper's not as intimidating. :lol:
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:15 pm

Araraukar wrote:(though I've no idea who you are, your vote's been counted anyway)

I'm offended. Though I'm a leftist, so I'm technically offended by everything.
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Postby Araraukar » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:15 pm

Cekoviu wrote:Though I'm a leftist, so I'm technically offended by everything.

Not necessarily a good thing to post, it sounds a bit baity either way. And in any case, my memory with names is so bad that me not remembering you isn't any kind of offense. :P
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Postby Cekoviu » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:51 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Though I'm a leftist, so I'm technically offended by everything.

Not necessarily a good thing to post, it sounds a bit baity either way. And in any case, my memory with names is so bad that me not remembering you isn't any kind of offense. :P

Baiting myself? :thinking:
I was just joking anyway, I'm new here.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:01 am

Still nothing.

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Postby Desmosthenes and Burke » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:06 am

Option 2, though Option 1 is second best.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:08 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Still nothing.


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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:09 am

Excidium Planetis wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Still nothing.


Bureaucracy at its finest.

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Postby Kenmoria » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:11 am

States of Glory WA Office wrote:Option i.

Option e+2

It equals one
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:26 am

Kenmoria wrote:
States of Glory WA Office wrote:Option i.

Option e+2

It equals one

Personally, I prefer option ((Σ(x/σ+ x̅))/n2)/(x̅σ) - √.
It's also approximately 1, if I did the math right.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:29 am

I don't understand the point of Ara throwing in a bunch of red herrings (well, beyond his famed obstructionism) so there is a majority against any one option. Effect the changes noted in the OP.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:30 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:I don't understand the point of Ara throwing in a bunch of red herrings (well, beyond his famed obstructionism) so there is a majority against any one option. Effect the changes noted in the OP.

It seems like most of us are agreeing with your changes anyway, albeit using complex mathematical equations and imaginary numbers.
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:01 am

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:Option 2. That whole first bit is extraneous and redundant.


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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:06 am

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:Option 2. That whole first bit is extraneous and redundant.

You should be oriented, perhaps to the east. Anyway, I agree that it is extraneous and redundant. But it is consistent with the text of the contradiction rule. Propose elimination in both rules, and then I will happily support such a change.

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:25 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:Option 2. That whole first bit is extraneous and redundant.

You should be oriented, perhaps to the east. Anyway, I agree that it is extraneous and redundant. But it is consistent with the text of the contradiction rule. Propose elimination in both rules, and then I will happily support such a change.


Happily.

According to the ol' map, I am facing some degrees north of east this very moment, though not directly toward the Orient. (I can't give an exact measurement because there must be a godawful huge electrical conduit or something about a meter to my right which is throwing off my phone's compass entirely).
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:01 pm

What is the upside of making the change?
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