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Postby Solomons Land » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:15 pm

This resolution believes that nuclear weapons are highly dangerous and should be disposed of. This resolution additionally believes that such an effort is impossible on many grounds and therefore should not be attempted. This resolution then believes that nuclear weapons should be minimized and carefully watched. This resolution also believes that N-Day(2) was a perfect example of how nuclear weapons can get out of hand. This resolution retains to believe that their should be a resolution that solves the above problems. This resolution finally believes that this resolution is of the previous belief.

This resolution defines nuclear weapons as a bomb that uses radioactive energy. This resolution defines coalition as a group of organized people with a cause. This resolution defines contenting as knowledgeable of their respective obligations. This resolution defines criminal action as an action that has been deemed illegal. This resolution defines substantial as an amount of resources that compares with the nations respective GPD (this is not to say a fraction, but that it shall be tailored to.) This resolution defines fine as an installment that the government must pay directly or form a tax to do such.

This resolution mandates:
a: The creation of the Nuclear Prevention and Documentation Coalition of Consenting WA Nations (NPDCCWAN)
b: All WA nuclear weapons must be registered with the NPDCCWAN
c: The installation of a substantial fine, payible to the NPDCCWAN
d: limits nuclear production to 10 (it would take 180 to end the world, such is abundant)
e: encourages nations to use nuclear weapons as a last resort
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Postby Serrus » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:36 pm

Solomons Land wrote:This resolution believes that nuclear weapons are highly dangerous and should be disposed of. This resolution additionally believes that such an effort is impossible on many grounds and therefore should not be attempted. This resolution then believes that nuclear weapons should be minimized and carefully watched. This resolution also believes that N-Day(2) was a perfect example of how nuclear weapons can get out of hand. This resolution retains to believe that their should be a resolution that solves the above problems. This resolution finally believes that this resolution is of the previous belief.

This resolution defines nuclear weapons as a bomb that uses radioactive energy. This resolution defines coalition as a group of organized people with a cause. This resolution defines contenting as knowledgeable of their respective obligations. This resolution defines criminal action as an action that has been deemed illegal. This resolution defines substantial as an amount of resources that compares with the nations respective GPD (this is not to say a fraction, but that it shall be tailored to.) This resolution defines fine as an installment that the government must pay directly or form a tax to do such.

This resolution mandates:
a: The creation of the Nuclear Prevention and Documentation Coalition of Consenting WA Nations (NPDCCWAN)
b: All WA nuclear weapons must be registered with the NPDCCWAN
c: The installation of a substantial fine, payible to the NPDCCWAN
d: limits nuclear production to 10 (it would take 180 to end the world, such is abundant)
e: encourages nations to use nuclear weapons as a last resort

OOC:
Stuff that is actually illegal:
-Metagaming (N-Day^2)
-NS=/=Earth
-Contradicts GA #10
-Category? Strength?
-Has no name.
Stuff that is not illegal but still a problem:
-Your preamble? sorta?
-"This resolution" spamming
-Very very poorly written.
-Where are the rest of your drafts?
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Ethel mermania wrote:maybe japan wanted the zombie attack.

Possible. Zombies are cool now.

Eastern Raarothorgren wrote:News websites are good and reasonable soruces of information or they would not be on the internet if they were saying things that were incorrect.

This is why rules exist, kids!
Keshiland wrote:I am yes arguing that the 1st 4 are not binding to the states and yes I know that in most Republican states they would ban the freedom of religion and the freedom of essembally but I don't live there and I hate guns!

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Postby Solomons Land » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:49 pm

This resolution believes that nuclear weapons are highly dangerous and should be disposed of. This resolution additionally believes that such an effort is impossible on many grounds and therefore should not be attempted. This resolution then believes that nuclear weapons should be minimized and carefully watched. This resolution retains to believe that their should be a resolution that solves the above problems. This resolution finally believes that this resolution is of the previous belief.

This resolution defines nuclear weapons as a bomb that uses radioactive energy. This resolution defines coalition as a group of organized people with a cause. This resolution defines contenting as knowledgeable of their respective obligations. This resolution defines criminal action as an action that has been deemed illegal. This resolution defines substantial as an amount of resources that compares with the nations respective GPD (this is not to say a fraction, but that it shall be tailored to.) This resolution defines fine as an installment that the government must pay directly or form a tax to do such.

This resolution mandates:
a: The creation of the Nuclear Prevention and Documentation Coalition of Consenting WA Nations (NPDCCWAN)
b: All WA nuclear weapons must be registered with the NPDCCWAN
c: The installation of a substantial fine, payible to the NPDCCWAN
d: limits nuclear production to 10 (it would take 180 to end a world, such is abundant)
e: encourages nations to use nuclear weapons as a last resort
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Postby Solomons Land » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:53 pm

I fixed meta-gaming, I checked GA 10, while I may break the spirit, I did not break any clauses, what do you mean "NS=/=Earth."
Generation 31: enter this into your signature and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
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Postby Serrus » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:58 pm

Solomons Land wrote:I fixed meta-gaming, I checked GA 10, while I may break the spirit, I did not break any clauses, what do you mean "NS=/=Earth."

"limits nuclear production to 10 (it would take 180 to end the world, such is abundant)"
"end the world"
"end the world"
NS takes place on a bajillion worlds, not just earth.
And it still needs a title.
Katganistan wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:maybe japan wanted the zombie attack.

Possible. Zombies are cool now.

Eastern Raarothorgren wrote:News websites are good and reasonable soruces of information or they would not be on the internet if they were saying things that were incorrect.

This is why rules exist, kids!
Keshiland wrote:I am yes arguing that the 1st 4 are not binding to the states and yes I know that in most Republican states they would ban the freedom of religion and the freedom of essembally but I don't live there and I hate guns!

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
You glorifted ducking wanabe sea pheasant

Platapusses are not rel

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Postby Essu Beti » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:22 pm

((OOC: Why on Earth are you starting every sentence with "This resolution" over and over again?))
Trust Factbooks, not stats.

The Ambassador of Essu Beti is Iksana Gayan and he's an elf. He’s irritable and a damn troll and everything he says is IC only. I would never be so tactless OOC.

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Postby Solomons Land » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:44 pm

Would it work to replace the with a.
Generation 31: enter this into your signature and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
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Postby Willania Imperium » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:46 pm

Solomons Land wrote:I fixed meta-gaming, I checked GA 10, while I may break the spirit, I did not break any clauses, what do you mean "NS=/=Earth."


It means there are RL references in this proposal that makes it illegal. Cut them out.

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Postby Solomons Land » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:51 pm

By the way, I am doing the name last.
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Postby Essu Beti » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:07 pm

Solomons Land wrote:Would it work to replace the with a.


How on Earth would that possibly alleviate the sheer repetitiveness?
Trust Factbooks, not stats.

The Ambassador of Essu Beti is Iksana Gayan and he's an elf. He’s irritable and a damn troll and everything he says is IC only. I would never be so tactless OOC.

National News Radio: A large-scale infrastructure project will soon be underway. During this time, for safety reasons, the island will be closed to tourists and foreign news agents. We do expect a minor loss in revenue due to this, but this will be greatly offset by both the long and short-term benefits of the infrastructure project. If your job is negatively impacted by the island closure, please send a letter or verbal message via courier to the Council so that we can add you to the list of beneficiaries of foreign aid.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:29 am

"Ambassador we will make as many nuclear weapons as we damn well please. If this attempt passes, it won't, we will leave the WA." Eve says sharply.
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Postby Serrus » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:24 am

Essu Beti wrote:
Solomons Land wrote:Would it work to replace the with a.


How on Earth would that possibly alleviate the sheer repetitiveness?

You could fix it by doing bulleted lists
-like
-this
-you see?
Katganistan wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:maybe japan wanted the zombie attack.

Possible. Zombies are cool now.

Eastern Raarothorgren wrote:News websites are good and reasonable soruces of information or they would not be on the internet if they were saying things that were incorrect.

This is why rules exist, kids!
Keshiland wrote:I am yes arguing that the 1st 4 are not binding to the states and yes I know that in most Republican states they would ban the freedom of religion and the freedom of essembally but I don't live there and I hate guns!

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
You glorifted ducking wanabe sea pheasant

Platapusses are not rel

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Postby Destructive Government Economic System » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:29 am

Yet another draft that wishes to limit the production of nuclear weapons? In that case, this is yet another reason why I chose to not join the WA...

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Just your typical guy who wants to have fun. Don't take this nation seriously,
ever.
I DO NOT use NS stats!
Keshiland literally wrote:I would give it a no. A country that lies about how free, or how great, or how humanitarian it is can never be developed. Example, NK lies and says they are democratic and are not, the US lies and says we are free yet we incarcerate millions for a medical plant. See we are basically a larger more populated North Korea.

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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:31 am

All replies are OOC. By the way, how is this a "final draft"?? What happened to all the previous drafts, are they in the bin (trash can)?

Solomons Land wrote:This resolution finally believes that this resolution is of the previous belief.

How can a Resolution believe in any capacity? It is not a person, legally speaking or otherwise. Also, your statement is entirely superfluous. It is close to the equivalent of saying: "this book has said what it says". Well obviously!

Solomons Land wrote:This resolution defines nuclear weapons as a bomb that uses radioactive energy. This resolution defines coalition as a group of organized people with a cause. This resolution defines contenting as knowledgeable of their respective obligations. This resolution defines criminal action as an action that has been deemed illegal. This resolution defines substantial as an amount of resources that compares with the nations respective GPD (this is not to say a fraction, but that it shall be tailored to.) This resolution defines fine as an installment that the government must pay directly or form a tax to do such.

Format these definitions a bit better, rather than just having a big block of text. For example, here is a format that you could use:

For the purposes of this Food Standards Resolution, defines:

  1. Meat as ...
  2. Milk as ...
  3. Cheese as ...

etc etc.


Solomons Land wrote:This resolution mandates:
a: The creation of the Nuclear Prevention and Documentation Coalition of Consenting WA Nations (NPDCCWAN)

Oh joy, yet another Committee to add to the World Assembly pile...

Solomons Land wrote:c: The installation of a substantial fine, payible to the NPDCCWAN

Avoid punitive measures. Punitive measures in Proposals tend to turn off the nations that are voting on them. Also, I notice the level of fine is left vague. I am always suspicious when there are no specifics and/or numbers used when referring to punishments.

Solomons Land wrote:d: limits nuclear production to 10 (it would take 180 to end a world, such is abundant)

Ten? Ten what? Ten per year? Ten per month? Ten per factory? Ten per person? Ten per bear? Also, where are you getting that "180 to end a world" number from?

Focusing solely on number of weapons is meaningless. You do realize that by arbitrarily limiting nations to 10 nuclear weapons (if that is what this means), then nations would just make 10 massive nuclear weapons, probably in the 100+ Megaton range each, so that each weapon can do the same damage that a higher number of weapons could do. Nuclear arms controls need to take into account yield of each weapon as well, otherwise it is meaningless.

But regardless, all my criticisms may be entirely moot, as I highly suspect that this may contradict GAR #10, as limiting production of nuclear weapons may impede the ability of a nation to defend itself from hostile nations (stated in Clause 1 of GAR #10). GAR #10 is here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_pa ... /council=1
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
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Postby Serrus » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:49 am

-He fixed it, nvm-
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Katganistan wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:maybe japan wanted the zombie attack.

Possible. Zombies are cool now.

Eastern Raarothorgren wrote:News websites are good and reasonable soruces of information or they would not be on the internet if they were saying things that were incorrect.

This is why rules exist, kids!
Keshiland wrote:I am yes arguing that the 1st 4 are not binding to the states and yes I know that in most Republican states they would ban the freedom of religion and the freedom of essembally but I don't live there and I hate guns!

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
You glorifted ducking wanabe sea pheasant

Platapusses are not rel

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Postby Solomons Land » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:43 am

How would you fix clause c, 10 in total.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:50 am

Solomons Land wrote:How would you fix clause c, 10 in total.

OOC: By getting rid of it completely. It is unfixable.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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