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Newplacelandia
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[Joke, Abandoned] Outlaw "Fake News"

Postby Newplacelandia » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:11 pm

Outlaw "fake news"
Moral Decency, significant

The World Assembly,

Observing that most peoples and cultures believe lying is wrong,

Appalled that, in many member nations, the media may freely lie to the nation's people,

Noting that lying on such a large scale may mislead nearly all of a nation's population,

Realizing that mass delusion, hysteria, and rioting may occur due to this misinformation,

Also realizing that such events would cause further harm to the population, and even the government of a misinformed nation,

Hereby

a) Outlaws intentionally fabricated, "alternative", and scientifically unsupported facts originating from news, press, and media companies,

b) Ignores posts on social media that were not posted by an employee of a news or media company,

c) Requires that opinion, speculation, and fictitious articles, physical or not, be clearly labeled as such by their authors and the company employing the authors.
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Postby Aclion » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:14 pm

Who shall decide what is fake news?
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:25 pm

Newplacelandia wrote:Outlaw "fake news"
Moral Decency, significant

The World Assembly,

Observing that most peoples and cultures believe lying is wrong,

Appalled that, in many member nations, the media may freely lie to the nation's people,

Noting that lying on such a large scale may mislead nearly all of a nation's population,

Realizing that mass delusion, hysteria, and rioting may occur due to this misinformation,

Also realizing that such events would cause further harm to the population, and even the government of a misinformed nation,

Hereby

a) Outlaws intentionally fabricated, "alternative", and scientifically unsupported facts originating from news, press, and media companies,

b) Ignores posts on social media that were not posted by an employee of a news or media company,

c) Requires that opinion, speculation, and fictitious articles, physical or not, be clearly labeled as such by their authors and the company employing the authors.

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Note: This has nothing to do with Trump.
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Postby Herby » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:45 pm

Wait wait wait what? So ehhhhhh all it takes is one demented leader to brand a Certain News Network as "fake news" and now that network is outlawed? Ooh ooh and what about news parodies like The Onion or Weekend Update? Nope nope nope, outlawed! Look, nobody knows who's tellin' the truth half the time anyway, you be wastin' your time even tryin' to enforce this. So ehhhhhh no not gonna happen. Next!
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Postby Lexicor » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:00 pm

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Postby The Greater Siriusian Domain » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:14 pm

Teran Saber: "While we commend your apparent intentions, we cannot support this. Under this proposal, the leader of a nation could claim that something is fake news simply because they didn't like it. Furthermore, it restricts free speech even when honestly used, and could be used as a stepping stone to more violations of the right to free speech."

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Postby Engineerinia » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:16 pm

I like it
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:36 pm

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Postby Manaime » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:38 pm

Engineerinia wrote:I like it

You don't even know if it's likeable or not, because we sometimes need free speech in mind.
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Postby Flowrisa » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:03 pm

Alexis Palacio:

"While I think that fake news is a menace to society, I have to consider freedom of speech. Faced with the choice between obliterating fake news or one of the most important civil liberties in a nation, I would choose the latter. Therefore, Flowrisa is vehemently opposed to this proposal."
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:58 pm

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Postby Bitely » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:37 am

Ha! Like the Members of the WA are going to pass a Resolution allowing the WA to censor them. This wouldn't even reach the quorum.
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Postby Calladan » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:52 am

Newplacelandia wrote:Outlaw "fake news"
Moral Decency, significant

The World Assembly,

Observing that most peoples and cultures believe lying is wrong,

Appalled that, in many member nations, the media may freely lie to the nation's people,

Noting that lying on such a large scale may mislead nearly all of a nation's population,

Realizing that mass delusion, hysteria, and rioting may occur due to this misinformation,

Also realizing that such events would cause further harm to the population, and even the government of a misinformed nation,

Hereby

a) Outlaws intentionally fabricated, "alternative", and scientifically unsupported facts originating from news, press, and media companies,

b) Ignores posts on social media that were not posted by an employee of a news or media company,

c) Requires that opinion, speculation, and fictitious articles, physical or not, be clearly labeled as such by their authors and the company employing the authors.

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Note: This has nothing to do with Trump.


Hold on. Are you saying that a nation's leader can declare something "Fake News" and it becomes outlawed? Or that anything that is proven to be "Fake News" is outlawed?

Because they are - generally - two diametrically opposite things. As a rule anything a nation's leader says is "Fake News" is generally the truest source of news you can get, and anything that purports to be the truest source of news is "Fake News" incarnate.

So - which is it?
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:46 am

Bitely wrote:Ha! Like the Members of the WA are going to pass a Resolution allowing the WA to censor them. This wouldn't even reach the quorum.

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Postby Bitely » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:38 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Bitely wrote:Ha! Like the Members of the WA are going to pass a Resolution allowing the WA to censor them. This wouldn't even reach the quorum.

"Didn't somebody kill your father to stop his babbling?"

And I will not let that happen again by allowing the WA to censor it's citizens.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:40 am

WA Nations will for the most part not censor their citizens. Against.
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Postby Herby » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:43 am

Bitely wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Didn't somebody kill your father to stop his babbling?"

And I will not let that happen again by allowing the WA to censor it's citizens.

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Separatist Peoples wrote:"If the Bitlyan delegation is for this, I am irredeemably against it. We done here? Yeah, we done here."

WHAT? Benny? You wanna censor the news? I'm flabbergasted! Heh heh heh heh okay okay sorry just couldn't resist.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:56 am

Herby wrote:
Bitely wrote:And I will not let that happen again by allowing the WA to censor it's citizens.

Herby plays a recording from another room:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"If the Bitlyan delegation is for this, I am irredeemably against it. We done here? Yeah, we done here."

WHAT? Benny? You wanna censor the news? I'm flabbergasted! Heh heh heh heh okay okay sorry just couldn't resist.

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Postby Iadera » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:03 am

I can see the headlines now: "Satire banned - former writers for The Onion seek new employment in Cheese Export industry"

Furthermore, anyone whose spent any amount of time on social media sites like tumblr should know that "fake news" comes from all parts of the political spectrum and its spread is the fault of lazy, gullible people who never learned to think critically and can't be bothered to spend 4 seconds checking things with Google before getting hysterical about some supposed piece of news and sharing it with everyone who follows them on social media. You may as well pass a resolution outlawing idiocy - the consumers of news, and not "fake news" itself, are the problem.

We of Iadera have precluded the formation of this problem by nationalizing all media, outlawing the Internet and strategically positioning ourselves a sufficient distance from any neighbours who might broadcast false or misleading information to our citizens. You should try it!
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:08 am

Iadera wrote:I can see the headlines now: "Satire banned - former writers for The Onion seek new employment in Cheese Export industry"

Furthermore, anyone whose spent any amount of time on social media sites like tumblr should know that "fake news" comes from all parts of the political spectrum and its spread is the fault of lazy, gullible people who never learned to think critically and can't be bothered to spend 4 seconds checking things with Google before getting hysterical about some supposed piece of news and sharing it with everyone who follows them on social media. You may as well pass a resolution outlawing idiocy - the consumers of news, and not "fake news" itself, are the problem.

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Postby Herby » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:48 am

Iadera wrote:"Satire banned - former writers for The Onion seek new employment in Cheese Export industry"

Sounds like you got issues, man.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:40 am

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Iadera wrote:I can see the headlines now: "Satire banned - former writers for The Onion seek new employment in Cheese Export industry"

Furthermore, anyone whose spent any amount of time on social media sites like tumblr should know that "fake news" comes from all parts of the political spectrum and its spread is the fault of lazy, gullible people who never learned to think critically and can't be bothered to spend 4 seconds checking things with Google before getting hysterical about some supposed piece of news and sharing it with everyone who follows them on social media. You may as well pass a resolution outlawing idiocy - the consumers of news, and not "fake news" itself, are the problem.

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Aclion wrote:Who shall decide what is fake news?

"Fake News" is whatever doesn't fit any particular persons preconceived notion. Don't like the conclusions of a particular article? FAKE NEWS!!!
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Postby East Kerbin » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:52 am

I understand that fake news is bad, but how do we figure out what is fake?

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Postby Essu Beti » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:00 pm

Bitely wrote:Ha! Like the Members of the WA are going to pass a Resolution allowing the WA to censor them. This wouldn't even reach the quorum.


Iksana snorts. "The members of the WA are the WA, as if you didn't know."

Grays Harbor wrote:"Fake News" is whatever doesn't fit any particular persons preconceived notion. Don't like the conclusions of a particular article? FAKE NEWS!!!


"Which is exactly why Essu Beti will never support a proposal like this. It is far too easy to abuse."
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