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[discussion] Keshiland and the WA

Postby Thyerata » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:24 am

Briefly, I have come to the view that Keshiland is abusing the WA, or is otherwise taking a bad faith approach, such that he should be ejected from the WA. First, he continually spams the WA by submitting a draft, withdrawing it when GenSec rule it illegal, then promptly resubmitting (for a current example, see here: viewtopic.php=32189385#p32189385). Furthermore, he posts drafts in the WA forums, but refuses to constructively engage with those who wish to help him (see Bears' post linked above, and here: viewtopic.php?p=32189303#p32189303 ). A more recent example of the above is here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=419378
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Postby Raporia » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:26 am

Condemn Keshiland?

100% Approved. Let's make a draft about this
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:32 am

If you believe Keshiland is breaking the rules, file a report in Moderation. Otherwise, there is nothing to be done.

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Postby Raporia » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:34 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:If you believe Keshiland is breaking the rules, file a report in Moderation. Otherwise, there is nothing to be done.

Eh, better just condemn him/her
Mea Ounike Englitshch Bringeths Ellth Da Boysths Inth Da Yarth Andeth Thereth Liketh "It's Exaggerated Shakespearean" Yeath Rith, ""It's Exaggerated Shakespearean". Ith Couleth Teacthethths Buth Ith Haveth Toth Charthesthethstheechsheth

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Postby Thyerata » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:36 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:If you believe Keshiland is breaking the rules, file a report in Moderation. Otherwise, there is nothing to be done.


I. Was. Told. To. Come. Here. After. Starting. In. Moderation. viewtopic.php?p=32190844#p32190844
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:38 am

Raporia wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:If you believe Keshiland is breaking the rules, file a report in Moderation. Otherwise, there is nothing to be done.

Eh, better just condemn him/her

Not how condemnation works. But try it and find out how the SC and GA operate totally differently snd independently.

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Postby Thyerata » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:38 am

Raporia wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:If you believe Keshiland is breaking the rules, file a report in Moderation. Otherwise, there is nothing to be done.

Eh, better just condemn him/her


Condemnation doesn't achieve anything, since it doesn't affect the fact that Keshiland would still be a member of the WA and thus would still be able to submit resolutions
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Postby Thyerata » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:39 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Raporia wrote:Eh, better just condemn him/her

Not how condemnation works. But try it and find out how the SC and GA operate totally differently snd independently.


And I think there's a rule somewhere that says that the SC can't refer to misbehaviour in the GA in support of a condemnation
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Postby Raporia » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:40 am

Thyerata wrote:
Raporia wrote:Eh, better just condemn him/her


Condemnation doesn't achieve anything, since it doesn't affect the fact that Keshiland would still be a member of the WA and thus would still be able to submit resolutions

I just like to see people suffer from something almost permanent but oh well
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:41 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:If you believe Keshiland is breaking the rules, file a report in Moderation. Otherwise, there is nothing to be done.

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Postby Thyerata » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:42 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:If you believe Keshiland is breaking the rules, file a report in Moderation. Otherwise, there is nothing to be done.


That doesn't deal with Frisbee's express point (linked above) that I should come here.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:44 am

Frisbeeteria wrote:Since GenSec is now responsible for GA rules, you would need to start a thread in the GA forum to discuss changes to this rule, or enforcement against players like Keshiland. The mods will participate as interested players, but it's really not our responsibility anymore.
Separatist Peoples wrote:If you believe Keshiland is breaking the rules, file a report in Moderation. Otherwise, there is nothing to be done.

Seems to me that everyone's playing pass the parcel.

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Postby Wrapper » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:44 am

Thyerata wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:If you believe Keshiland is breaking the rules, file a report in Moderation. Otherwise, there is nothing to be done.


I. Was. Told. To. Come. Here. After. Starting. In. Moderation. viewtopic.php?p=32190844#p32190844

You were not told to come here to discuss and complain about a particular player. You were told to come here if you wanted to engage GenSec and discuss any possible changes to the rules. If that's what you want to do, start a new thread. Thread locked.
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