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Postby Fauxia » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:00 pm

“Against because of the public school clause.”

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Postby Araraukar » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:59 pm

Fauxia wrote:“Against because of the public school clause.”

"Exactly what about which public shcool clause are you objecting to?" Johan asked, raising an eyebrow.

Fauxia wrote:OOC: I don’t know if there’s a GA resolution that requires a public education system

OOC: GA #80, A Promotion of Basic Education doesn't exactly require a public education system but it does require nations to provide education to their people...
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Postby The Bible Baptist Republic » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:25 pm

OOC: Overall, I like the proposal and can not think of an in character reason to object so I'll keep this all OOC. The only thing that I find awkwardly phrased is: 1.d. "a "mentally challenged student" as a child who has been evaluated by medical specialists to suffer from at least one of the learning challenges, Personally think it would flow better as "...at least one learning challenge" but that's just my personal taste in writing style.
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:02 am

The Bible Baptist Republic wrote:OOC: The only thing that I find awkwardly phrased is: 1.d. "a "mentally challenged student" as a child who has been evaluated by medical specialists to suffer from at least one of the learning challenges, Personally think it would flow better as "...at least one learning challenge" but that's just my personal taste in writing style.

OOC: The reason I use "the ... challenges" is that it's trying to be a reference to the ones that were defined in 1.c., rather than any old learning challenge.
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Postby The Bible Baptist Republic » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:39 am

Araraukar wrote:
The Bible Baptist Republic wrote:OOC: The only thing that I find awkwardly phrased is: 1.d. "a "mentally challenged student" as a child who has been evaluated by medical specialists to suffer from at least one of the learning challenges, Personally think it would flow better as "...at least one learning challenge" but that's just my personal taste in writing style.

OOC: The reason I use "the ... challenges" is that it's trying to be a reference to the ones that were defined in 1.c., rather than any old learning challenge.


OOC That makes sense. A good well written proposal is like a unicorn these days, good job. And thanks for your help.
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Postby The Aquarian Islands » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:30 pm

As soon as the Aquarian president finishes reading the proposal, he takes off his round glasses and reflects a bit on what he just read.

"Well, I have a question regarding this. What if the country's age of majority is low as 10 or 12? I can see this spoiling a bit the point of your assembly proposal in the eyes of some voters."

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Postby Aclion » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:34 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Fauxia wrote:“Against because of the public school clause.”

"Exactly what about which public shcool clause are you objecting to?" Johan asked, raising an eyebrow.

Fauxia wrote:OOC: I don’t know if there’s a GA resolution that requires a public education system

OOC: GA #80, A Promotion of Basic Education doesn't exactly require a public education system but it does require nations to provide education to their people...

A lot of nations don't do that through public schools though, and for nations that don't have a public school curriculum the clause is nonsensical.
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Postby Araraukar » Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:33 am

The Aquarian Islands wrote:"Well, I have a question regarding this. What if the country's age of majority is low as 10 or 12?"

"What of it?" Johan asked. "Nations are free to set their age of majority according to existing legislation. Nothing in this proposal requires that age to be set at any specific number of years"

Aclion wrote:A lot of nations don't do that through public schools though, and for nations that don't have a public school curriculum the clause is nonsensical.

OOC: Then, as usual, if you don't have X and legislation says you neeed to do Y with X, you don't need to do Y. Also, I highly doubt that the majority of nations don't have any kind of public school system. However, consider this noted for future.
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Postby Principality of the Raix » Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:44 am

After reviewing the proposal and thinking on the points made on the factors of countries that do not do education programs, if one reads the proposal it states "home schooling" allowing even countries without education programs to participate. Seeing as many countries without schools normally do home school in some form or in a community form. Knowing this, I could support this. However, the financial strain behind such would make it debatable on being able to do it within some countries. However, that is only my opinion of it. Otherwise, I like it.
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Postby Araraukar » Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:02 pm

OOC: When I was last at the computer before the time ran out on the submission, the proposal had 67 approvals, or about 2/3 of the needed amount. Thank you to everyone who approved, this will be tried again soon.
Approvals: 67 (Sylvuanir, Northern Ind Berielmis, Billy Bob Jenkins, Trivoli, Acehood, TexJeeps, Redsection, Holy Empire of God Christ, Republican Republic of Republica, Katten Republiken, LaND oF cReAm pUfFs, Hueves, United galatic planets, Bisim, Reino Divino do Saara, Sabara, Costasland, The Aquarian Islands, Carolina Alliance, Greater Gilead, Voryan, The Gray Democratic Republic, Solborg, The United Kingdom of the Soviets, Indusse, Of the Democratic Party, Misericorde, BigBlandia, Anonland, Libertatis Regalis, Pax Nerdvana, Ins Republico, Aquidneck, Land of the Rice Fields, The Generic, Wallenburg, New Kadressa, Kingsgrove, Tiqvah, Pilarcraft, Philippine Co-Dependent Protectorates, Kolloland, Pastaonia, Great Leeston, Almira, Natures Beauty, Slenokia, Dussiya, Krioval, Rain Delay, Bymaria, New Teirm, Rearlad, Republica Conquistadora, Kreegacia, Federatialen, Angora Guanaco, Liberlitatia, Getherness, Simdonisia, The most Peaceful Land of Paisland, Not Giving a Damn, Albamontibus, New Mushroom Kingdom, Digna, New Thyoph, NovaTora)
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Postby Araraukar » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:40 pm

OOC: Bumping this one up too, because it looks like TNEO is back and we need to decide how to handle this.

EDIT: And from looking at the post date stamps I think my "soon" is somewhat stretchy a concept...
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Postby The New European Order » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:58 am

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Postby Araraukar » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:44 pm

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Postby The New European Order » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:50 pm

Greene: You have my support! It’s almost like I’ve tried something... WAIT A MINUTE!

Smith: Hush, Greene. We sorted it out already, and its been decided that we reliquished the right to draft this the same time Garnati and Freigebig military forces invaded and killed every member of the Gonzalez administration. We’re back though, for good hopefully, so our journey will simply continue elsewhere.
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Postby Araraukar » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:55 pm

OOC: I probably won't do anything with this until after 1st of January. Social calendar is a bit busy at this time of the year.
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:44 am

OOC: Bumping this up again to ask for help to see if it's still relevant (hasn't been addressed) and what, if any, changes are necessary.
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:29 am

“I’m not sure what is meant by clause 1e with ‘all the learning challenges’. Is this a challenge in every area of education or possessing every possible difficulty in learning? The latter seems almost impossible to actually exist.”
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:24 am

Kenmoria wrote:“I’m not sure what is meant by clause 1e with ‘all the learning challenges’. Is this a challenge in every area of education or possessing every possible difficulty in learning? The latter seems almost impossible to actually exist.”

Araraukar wrote:
The Bible Baptist Republic wrote:OOC: The only thing that I find awkwardly phrased is: 1.d. "a "mentally challenged student" as a child who has been evaluated by medical specialists to suffer from at least one of the learning challenges, Personally think it would flow better as "...at least one learning challenge" but that's just my personal taste in writing style.

OOC: The reason I use "the ... challenges" is that it's trying to be a reference to the ones that were defined in 1.c., rather than any old learning challenge.

:P

OOC EDIT: If it looks like it's honestly hard to understand, rather than just eyes skipping over a line, I might think of a way to make it a bit clearer...
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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:26 am

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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:52 am

Araraukar wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:“I’m not sure what is meant by clause 1e with ‘all the learning challenges’. Is this a challenge in every area of education or possessing every possible difficulty in learning? The latter seems almost impossible to actually exist.”

Araraukar wrote:OOC: The reason I use "the ... challenges" is that it's trying to be a reference to the ones that were defined in 1.c., rather than any old learning challenge.

:P

OOC EDIT: If it looks like it's honestly hard to understand, rather than just eyes skipping over a line, I might think of a way to make it a bit clearer...

(OOC: I think it was just my eyes being lazy. With that cleared up, I have full support for this.)
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:13 pm

Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: I think it was just my eyes being lazy. With that cleared up, I have full support for this.)

OOC: Could I bother you to do a grammar/spelling sweep of it, please?
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:35 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: I think it was just my eyes being lazy. With that cleared up, I have full support for this.)

OOC: Could I bother you to do a grammar/spelling sweep of it, please?

(OOC: And, done. In clause 1b, 'specialized' should be 'specializing'. Also, you have a comma after 'child' in clause 1e but not in clause 1d, which isn’t incorrect but does look strange. The semicolon after 'education' in clause 2c should be a comma, as what follows isn't a sentence by itself; the same applies to the semicolon after 'understanding' in clause 3. That’s everything I could find.)
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