[DRAFT] Improving Public Education

[United Socialist Ecuador]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1489591376
Hello fellow nations! After seeing that the rank of public education is falling gradually, I hope this proposal gets accepted to get this problem taken care of. Please fellow WA delegates, help me to achieve my goal, many of our students will fail soon to get the correct education.

Any questions? Please ask here.

[Sierra Lyricalia]

Welcome to the World Assembly! You should know that forum etiquette dictates one should use one single thread for a given proposal; since you already have a thread going, you should use that one and simply edit the original post to show new versions. Previous versions can go underneath, under a spoiler button:

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I'll put in a mod request to merge this thread with your other one so it's easier to keep straight.

[United Socialist Ecuador]

Welcome to the World Assembly! You should know that forum etiquette dictates one should use one single thread for a given proposal; since you already have a thread going, you should use that one and simply edit the original post to show new versions. Previous versions can go underneath, in a spoiler box:

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I'll put in a mod request to merge this thread with your other one so it's easier to keep straight.

Oh ok. Thanks.

[Sierra Lyricalia]

In the submitted version (https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1489591376), I have a couple of concerns.

There's a question of overlap with GAR #80. Now, the specific mentions of healthy eating, sports, and technology go beyond what's in GAR #80 and could make up for the clear overlap.

My main concern is actually Clause II, which creates a budgetary requirement that seems to contradict GAR #80/Clause 4:

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4. Declares that the WA General Accounting Office (GAO) shall allocate and provide funds at the request of any nation for the purposes of complying to this legislation and providing quality education, so long as the recipient nation:

(a) Uses the donation(s) exclusively to provide a basic education to citizens of their nation;
(b) Is deemed to be genuinely unable to economically support the requirements of basic education based on this document;
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I'm not 100% sure there's an illegal contradiction there, but it's entirely possible.

[Radicalania]

And this is why I said wait for the law boffins to come in and clear it up ^

[Araraukar]

OOC: *sigh* If you're seriously unable to wait two days for editing advice, maybe resolution writing isn't something you should be doing.

The submitted version is still riddled with typos and the grammar is atrocious in places, the student definition includes teachers, clause 1 makes no sense, clause 2 breaks whatever resolution it was that says WA can't directly mess with internal taxation (and also General Fund most likely), clause 3 seems to assume that #344 isn't obeyed in good faith by the member states, and clause 4 duplicates/contradicts something I don't have time to research today, which is why I told you I'd get back to this on Thursday most likely, and also seems to make "obesity, drugs [and] bullying" school subjects, rather than teaching how to steer clear of any of them.

Seriously, write up a Getting Help Request and ask the mods pull it off of the submissions queue, because I'd really rather not have to write up yet another Legality Challenge, but instead help you sort things out.

[Radicalania]

The submitted version is still riddled with typos and the grammar is atrocious in places, the student definition includes teachers,

TBF, I left in that part to include Student Teachers.

clause 1 makes no sense,

Whilst I believe I could have worded it better, I contest the fact it makes no sense.

clause 2 breaks whatever resolution it was that says WA can't directly mess with internal taxation (and also General Fund most likely),

I did say to wait until legal boffins come in before it was submitted because of specifically this bit.

clause 3 seems to assume that #344 isn't obeyed in good faith by the member states,

Abject poverty and actual poverty are two seperate things. I'd also argue that a minimum standard of living doesn't mean access to school meals.

and clause 4 duplicates/contradicts something I don't have time to research today, which is why I told you I'd get back to this on Thursday most likely, and also seems to make "obesity, drugs [and] bullying" school subjects, rather than teaching how to steer clear of any of them.

It does duplicate Resolution #80, but I don't see how it's contradictory. I agree that the wording on the Obesity, drugs and bullying are not brilliant (and not in the draft I sent USE)

[Araraukar]

*snip*

OOC: Who are you anyway? You're not listed as coauthor, nor are you the submitting author, as far as I can tell. Nor do you seem to be in any way affiliated with the author beyond being in the same region, yet you talk about the text as though you were the author.

EDIT: If you were the one who actually wrote the text (like what I did in the case of the resolution that I have the official co-author credit from), have the submitting author name you as a co-author, because then you would also have the power to ask the mods to draw it off the submissions list for being the wrong draft submitted.

[Vulcan Confederacy]

Improving Public Education Standards

Category:Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Educational

Proposed By: Me

Description: Reminding on the Fact that Public Education is by the masses, and it is gradually slowing and going down. Many nations are starting to get less of the education that it is important for nations. Such as Politics, Economics, Military Jobs, the most important of them. And other jobs, Diplomatic, Markets, Sellers, Creators, to less important jobs, but we need education to keep many nations afloat.

Recognizing that without education, many nations aren't that stable, crime goes up, unemployment goes down, to the wage gaps getting bigger and bigger. Overall, nations would be in danger of collapsing and vulnerable to depressions etc,

What do you guys think?

THE VULCAN CONFEDERACY

Where is the opt out clause? All of these massive, expensive, statist WA resolutions. For nations who's system provides better education without the busy bodies of the WA; where's the opt out clause?

Live long and prosper!

[Aclion]

Improving Public Education Standards

Category:Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Educational

Proposed By: Me

Description: Reminding on the Fact that Public Education is by the masses, and it is gradually slowing and going down. Many nations are starting to get less of the education that it is important for nations. Such as Politics, Economics, Military Jobs, the most important of them. And other jobs, Diplomatic, Markets, Sellers, Creators, to less important jobs, but we need education to keep many nations afloat.

Recognizing that without education, many nations aren't that stable, crime goes up, unemployment goes down, to the wage gaps getting bigger and bigger. Overall, nations would be in danger of collapsing and vulnerable to depressions etc,

What do you guys think?

THE VULCAN CONFEDERACY

Where is the opt out clause? All of these massive, expensive, statist WA resolutions. For nations who's system provides better education without the busy bodies of the WA; where's the opt out clause?

Live long and prosper!

Opt out clauses are illegal for optionality.

[Estonland]

Greetings!
The Grand Duchy Of Estonland,as a welfare state which concerns for their citizens' well-being,fully supports this draft.Our children are our future,and we wouldn't want our future to be coke-snorting thugs,right?

[Uruguistan]

This is my draft proposal. Give me your opinion.

Improving Public Education Standards

Category:Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Educational

Proposed By: Me

Description: Reminding on the Fact that Public Education is by the masses, and it is gradually slowing and going down. Many nations are starting to get less of the education that it is important for nations. Such as Politics, Economics, Military Jobs, the most important of them. And other jobs, Diplomatic, Markets, Sellers, Creators, to less important jobs, but we need education to keep many nations afloat.

Recognizing that without education, many nations aren't that stable, crime goes up, unemployment goes down, to the wage gaps getting bigger and bigger. Overall, nations would be in danger of collapsing and vulnerable to depressions etc,

Declares that:

(I)Improving the quality of technology, that gives students more access to databases. Makes students more easily to get their assignments, help students learn more and expand their knowledge. And provide free internet access and putting an internet blocking program to make it only for school purposes. This will also provide jobs for the school curriculum.

(II)To cut budgets at school programs that only a few people join. So we can put money on the programs that the masses of the students want and need, instead of raising taxes.

(III)Provide healthy foods. Like routine checking, and to join many programs for healthy snacks. And to make obesity, drug, bullying etc. awareness. And to make programs of sports and more that the masses of the students enjoy to slow down all of these things.

(IV)Finally, the subjects and teaching at school needs to get a refresh. To teach more advanced things and stop teaching too many frequent things. And students who need help at certain subjects can get into a type of program that has tutors and interactive learning capabilities and applications online as well.

What do you guys think?

As the WA Delegate for the United Nations of Europe I would vote for this proposal.

However you should add a mandatory schooling for age [ ] to [ ].

[Calladan]

(I)Improving the quality of technology, that gives students more access to databases.

Did you have any particular databases in mind? Because (with all due respect) this clause just cracked me up

[Wealthatonia]

Ambassador, may i ask what about that nations that have no public education? our education is private only