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Draft: Repeal "Protecting Migratory Animals"

Postby Sandaoguo » Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:05 pm

Repeal "Protecting Migratory Animals"
Target Resolution: Text | Debate Thread



The General Assembly,

BELIEVING STRONGLY in the goal of conservation of migratory animals, because those animals have an important role in cross-border ecosystems,

ACUTELY AWARE that conservation efforts cannot be “one size fits all” and must be tailored to specific groups of animals in order to be truly effective,

APPLAUDING the intent of General Assembly Resolution #290, “Protecting Migratory Animals”, but believing that international conservation law needs to be more detailed and tailored to individual species and groups of species,

CONCERNED that “Protecting Migratory Animals” attempts to address conservation of all species of migratory animals, even when the conservation efforts of wildly different species pose unique challenges, such as the differences between migratory birds and migratory sharks, or the differences in conservation between endangered and non-endangered migratory animals,

CONCERNED FURTHERMORE that because the mandates in “Protecting Migratory Animals” are too vague and broad, the resolution poses a significant threat to the lives of migratory animals by creating too many holes in national and international conservation efforts,

RESOLVES that “Protecting Migratory Animals” is hereby repealed.

The General Assembly,

BELIEVING STRONGLY in the goal of conservation of migratory animals,

ACUTELY AWARE that conservation efforts cannot be “one size fits all” and must be tailored to specific groups of animals in order to be truly effective,

APPLAUDING the intent of General Assembly Resolution #290, “Protecting Migratory Animals”, but believing that international conservation law needs to be more detailed and tailored,

CONCERNED that “Protecting Migratory Animals” attempts to address conservation of all species of migratory animals, even when the conservation efforts of wildly different species pose unique challenges,

CONCERNED FURTHERMORE that the mandates in “Protecting Migratory Animals” are too vague and broad, which poses a significant threat to the effectiveness of the law and the lives of migratory animals,

RESOLVES that “Protecting Migratory Animals” is hereby repealed.





Our goal with this repeal is to open up the broad spectrum of possible future proposals that deal with the conservation of migratory species. While the goal of the target resolution is laudable, it combines a bunch of different policy areas into a single thin resolution. Birds and sharks are regulated under the same resolution! The General Assembly can do more and can do better with more tailored resolutions.

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Postby Gnejs » Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:15 pm

Wilma pops in her head in on the way to the bathroom:

"Forgive me, but isn't the APPLAUDING and CONCERNED clauses essentially saying the same thing? Especially when you've got that ACUTELY AWARE at the top? Perhaps only one of them is needed?"

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Postby Sandaoguo » Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:23 pm

Gnejs wrote:Wilma pops in her head in on the way to the bathroom:

"Forgive me, but isn't the APPLAUDING and CONCERNED clauses essentially saying the same thing? Especially when you've got that ACUTELY AWARE at the top? Perhaps only one of them is needed?"

Wilma proceeds to the bathroom.

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Postby Araraukar » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:43 pm

OOC: Support, but why not posting this on G-R?
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Postby Sandaoguo » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:50 pm

Araraukar wrote:OOC: Support, but why not posting this on G-R?

OOC: This is my WA account in TSP, plus I don't want my GenSec username color to discourage critique

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Postby Araraukar » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:53 pm

Sandaoguo wrote:
Araraukar wrote:OOC: Support, but why not posting this on G-R?

OOC: This is my WA account in TSP, plus I don't want my GenSec username color to discourage critique

OOC: Heh, fair enough, especially on the latter point.
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Postby Sandaoguo » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:25 pm

I have reworded the proposal slightly, and submitted a test run to gauge how much advocacy will be needed in the future.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:32 pm

NORTH: We heartily support the spirit and the aims of this proposal.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:33 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:NORTH: We heartily support the spirit and the aims of this proposal.

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Postby Empire of Cats » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:51 pm

Sandaoguo wrote:
Repeal "Protecting Migratory Animals"
Target Resolution: Text | Debate Thread



The General Assembly,

BELIEVING STRONGLY in the goal of conservation of migratory animals, because those animals have an important role in cross-border ecosystems,

ACUTELY AWARE that conservation efforts cannot be “one size fits all” and must be tailored to specific groups of animals in order to be truly effective,

APPLAUDING the intent of General Assembly Resolution #290, “Protecting Migratory Animals”, but believing that international conservation law needs to be more detailed and tailored to individual species and groups of species,

CONCERNED that “Protecting Migratory Animals” attempts to address conservation of all species of migratory animals, even when the conservation efforts of wildly different species pose unique challenges, such as the differences between migratory birds and migratory sharks, or the differences in conservation between endangered and non-endangered migratory animals,

CONCERNED FURTHERMORE that because the mandates in “Protecting Migratory Animals” are too vague and broad, the resolution poses a significant threat to the lives of migratory animals by creating too many holes in national and international conservation efforts,

RESOLVES that “Protecting Migratory Animals” is hereby repealed.

The General Assembly,

BELIEVING STRONGLY in the goal of conservation of migratory animals,

ACUTELY AWARE that conservation efforts cannot be “one size fits all” and must be tailored to specific groups of animals in order to be truly effective,

APPLAUDING the intent of General Assembly Resolution #290, “Protecting Migratory Animals”, but believing that international conservation law needs to be more detailed and tailored,

CONCERNED that “Protecting Migratory Animals” attempts to address conservation of all species of migratory animals, even when the conservation efforts of wildly different species pose unique challenges,

CONCERNED FURTHERMORE that the mandates in “Protecting Migratory Animals” are too vague and broad, which poses a significant threat to the effectiveness of the law and the lives of migratory animals,

RESOLVES that “Protecting Migratory Animals” is hereby repealed.





Our goal with this repeal is to open up the broad spectrum of possible future proposals that deal with the conservation of migratory species. While the goal of the target resolution is laudable, it combines a bunch of different policy areas into a single thin resolution. Birds and sharks are regulated under the same resolution! The General Assembly can do more and can do better with more tailored resolutions.

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Begging your pardon, but isn't it possible to just simply add an amendment to the original resolution instead of a constant add-take-revise-resubmit policy? Just a thought. Otherwise, I'm with you.

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Postby The Atlae Isles » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:31 pm

Empire of Cats wrote:
Sandaoguo wrote:
Repeal "Protecting Migratory Animals"
Target Resolution: Text | Debate Thread



The General Assembly,

BELIEVING STRONGLY in the goal of conservation of migratory animals, because those animals have an important role in cross-border ecosystems,

ACUTELY AWARE that conservation efforts cannot be “one size fits all” and must be tailored to specific groups of animals in order to be truly effective,

APPLAUDING the intent of General Assembly Resolution #290, “Protecting Migratory Animals”, but believing that international conservation law needs to be more detailed and tailored to individual species and groups of species,

CONCERNED that “Protecting Migratory Animals” attempts to address conservation of all species of migratory animals, even when the conservation efforts of wildly different species pose unique challenges, such as the differences between migratory birds and migratory sharks, or the differences in conservation between endangered and non-endangered migratory animals,

CONCERNED FURTHERMORE that because the mandates in “Protecting Migratory Animals” are too vague and broad, the resolution poses a significant threat to the lives of migratory animals by creating too many holes in national and international conservation efforts,

RESOLVES that “Protecting Migratory Animals” is hereby repealed.

The General Assembly,

BELIEVING STRONGLY in the goal of conservation of migratory animals,

ACUTELY AWARE that conservation efforts cannot be “one size fits all” and must be tailored to specific groups of animals in order to be truly effective,

APPLAUDING the intent of General Assembly Resolution #290, “Protecting Migratory Animals”, but believing that international conservation law needs to be more detailed and tailored,

CONCERNED that “Protecting Migratory Animals” attempts to address conservation of all species of migratory animals, even when the conservation efforts of wildly different species pose unique challenges,

CONCERNED FURTHERMORE that the mandates in “Protecting Migratory Animals” are too vague and broad, which poses a significant threat to the effectiveness of the law and the lives of migratory animals,

RESOLVES that “Protecting Migratory Animals” is hereby repealed.





Our goal with this repeal is to open up the broad spectrum of possible future proposals that deal with the conservation of migratory species. While the goal of the target resolution is laudable, it combines a bunch of different policy areas into a single thin resolution. Birds and sharks are regulated under the same resolution! The General Assembly can do more and can do better with more tailored resolutions.

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Begging your pardon, but isn't it possible to just simply add an amendment to the original resolution instead of a constant add-take-revise-resubmit policy? Just a thought. Otherwise, I'm with you.


We can't amend resolutions. It's too hard for them to code it in, so we have to repeal and replace. I just hope there's a replacement.
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Postby Sandaoguo » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:36 pm

Ideally, there won't be a single replacement for this. The repeal argues that the World Assembly shouldn't try to address conservation of all migratory species in a single resolution. That, instead, we should be making more tailored resolutions about the conservation of different types of animals.

So, there should be many replacements, in effect.

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Postby Aclion » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:41 pm

I'll have to dig out my transnational habitats act.
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:00 pm

Fairburn: It's all well and good stating that migratory animals of different species should have different regulations, but why? Try to give an example of the absurdity that is caused by one-size-fits-all legislation.
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Postby Araraukar » Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:17 am

States of Glory WA Office wrote:Fairburn: It's all well and good stating that migratory animals of different species should have different regulations, but why? Try to give an example of the absurdity that is caused by one-size-fits-all legislation.

Fairburn, could you tell your nation's acting ambassador, miss Warner, that she shouldn't let you out of the hospital before you've collected your wits properly, and that if the insanity of legislating for all kinds of migratory animals from ants to whales in a single proposal doesn't sound crazy to you, maybe you should be committed there permanently.

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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:48 pm

Araraukar wrote:
States of Glory WA Office wrote:Fairburn: It's all well and good stating that migratory animals of different species should have different regulations, but why? Try to give an example of the absurdity that is caused by one-size-fits-all legislation.

Fairburn, could you tell your nation's acting ambassador, miss Warner, that she shouldn't let you out of the hospital before you've collected your wits properly, and that if the insanity of legislating for all kinds of migratory animals from ants to whales in a single proposal doesn't sound crazy to you, maybe you should be committed there permanently.

Fairburn: We cannot leave out vital information on the basis that it is "too obvious". Otherwise, I could repeal NAPA by stating that the mere possession of nuclear weapons leads to puppies being killed and I could get out of explaining my argument by claiming that the reasoning is obvious.
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Postby Araraukar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:39 am

States of Glory WA Office wrote:Fairburn: We cannot leave out vital information on the basis that it is "too obvious". Otherwise, I could repeal NAPA by stating that the mere possession of nuclear weapons leads to puppies being killed and I could get out of explaining my argument by claiming that the reasoning is obvious.

I would honestly want to see you try, so that the collective asskicking was joined in by the Secretariat...

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:25 am

Araraukar wrote:
States of Glory WA Office wrote:Fairburn: We cannot leave out vital information on the basis that it is "too obvious". Otherwise, I could repeal NAPA by stating that the mere possession of nuclear weapons leads to puppies being killed and I could get out of explaining my argument by claiming that the reasoning is obvious.

I would honestly want to see you try, so that the collective asskicking was joined in by the Secretariat...

OOC: :P

OOC: Why? It would technically be legal. Not that I wouldn't support a Repeal rule that requires the effects be logically connected to the resolution.

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Postby Araraukar » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:01 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: Why? It would technically be legal. Not that I wouldn't support a Repeal rule that requires the effects be logically connected to the resolution.

OOC: Fairly sure it'd fall under Honest Mistake, at least the way it's been applied in the last year or so.

EDIT: Also, I mean the Mods by "Secretariat". The GenSec don't exist IC.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:14 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: Why? It would technically be legal. Not that I wouldn't support a Repeal rule that requires the effects be logically connected to the resolution.

OOC: Fairly sure it'd fall under Honest Mistake, at least the way it's been applied in the last year or so.

EDIT: Also, I mean the Mods by "Secretariat". The GenSec don't exist IC.

OOC: I knew we should have named this the Appellate Review Council Court Board of Lord Judge Secretaries And Also UNIBOT...

Anyway, lets not fall off topic.
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Postby Bakhton » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:25 pm

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Postby Whovian Tardisia » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:20 pm

"We also stand against, due to the fact that the vastness of this Assembly means that perhaps thousands of documents may be required to satisfy the request of the third clause."
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:28 am

Whovian Tardisia wrote:"We also stand against, due to the fact that the vastness of this Assembly means that perhaps thousands of documents may be required to satisfy the request of the third clause."

"Why is that a bad thing?"

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Postby Whovian Tardisia » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:43 pm

"It seems an absurdly vast amount of archive space to dedicate to such a relatively trivial topic, Ambassador. We feel the current resolution serves to avoid wasting WA time on this. If member states want more specific regulations, let them stipulate them for themselves. Besides, not all species reside in all member states, so most of those documents would not apply to a vast amount of member states."
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