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Postby Merni » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:27 pm

Wayneactia wrote:How these two resolutions been ruled legal, not by one, but by TWO members of GenSec?
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Has there been some change in the rules that wasn't mentioned?

Which rule do you think they're breaking? Both are badly written, sure, but don't seem to actually break any of the rules to me.
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Postby Wayneactia » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:06 am

Merni wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:How these two resolutions been ruled legal, not by one, but by TWO members of GenSec?
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Has there been some change in the rules that wasn't mentioned?

Which rule do you think they're breaking? Both are badly written, sure, but don't seem to actually break any of the rules to me.

Honest Mistake: Repeals should address the contents of the resolution it's targeting, and not just state the reverse of the arguments given in the resolution. Embellishment, exaggeration, deceptive/weaselly-words do not constitute an 'honest mistake'. An 'honest mistake' is factual inaccuracies, misrepresentation, or content that doesn't address the resolution.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:32 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Merni wrote:Which rule do you think they're breaking? Both are badly written, sure, but don't seem to actually break any of the rules to me.

Honest Mistake: Repeals should address the contents of the resolution it's targeting, and not just state the reverse of the arguments given in the resolution. Embellishment, exaggeration, deceptive/weaselly-words do not constitute an 'honest mistake'. An 'honest mistake' is factual inaccuracies, misrepresentation, or content that doesn't address the resolution.

They make policy arguments that are more than just a negation. They're shitty policy arguments, but not illegal.

That said, there is a Proposal Basics issue with both.

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Postby Wallenburg » Mon May 31, 2021 8:42 pm

Sciongrad has been inactive for 8 months. Are they expected to return to their office or do they need to be replaced?
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:16 am

Wallenburg wrote:Sciongrad has been inactive for 8 months. Are they expected to return to their office or do they need to be replaced?

Right now, they are expected to return. Scion hasn't been active here but has been more active on the Discord where he has kept in touch. We've kept an eye on the situation and will keep doing so, no worries!

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Postby Jedinsto » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:11 pm

Is any of GenSec going to make a ruling on this? I know there are some people waiting for a ruling before submitting a legality challenge, so I'm just wondering whether GenSec will rule or not and if so what that ruling will be.
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:58 am

Jedinsto wrote:Is any of GenSec going to make a ruling on this? I know there are some people waiting for a ruling before submitting a legality challenge, so I'm just wondering whether GenSec will rule or not and if so what that ruling will be.

As I have already said in its drafting thread, I have been refraining from ruling on it because of my involvement in the early stages of the drafting process (including advice given to the author by TG before they opened that thread).
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