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Postby Rohanai » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:25 am

Need some more WA endorsements. I can properly run a nation and deserve some endorsements.

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Postby Araraukar » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:29 am

Rohanai wrote:Need some more WA endorsements. I can properly run a nation and deserve some endorsements.

Only other WA nations in the same region as you can endorse you.
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Postby Sciongrad » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:52 pm

Brief announcement, my friends.

GenSec has made a modification to our procedures for hearing challenges. For all challenges going forward (excluding those that began prior to the adoption of this procedure), the quorum for GenSec will be set at 4 and a hard time limit of 120 hours will be placed on all queries. In other words, if the decision is 3-1 in favor of legality after 5 days, that opinion is controlling, even though two other members failed to vote. This is our effort to cut down on the time it takes for us to deliver opinions.
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:21 pm

Sciongrad wrote:Brief announcement, my friends.

GenSec has made a modification to our procedures for hearing challenges. For all challenges going forward (excluding those that began prior to the adoption of this procedure), the quorum for GenSec will be set at 4 and a hard time limit of 120 hours will be placed on all queries. In other words, if the decision is 3-1 in favor of legality after 5 days, that opinion is controlling, even though two other members failed to vote. This is our effort to cut down on the time it takes for us to deliver opinions.

I tentatively support this change, though I presume that the policy is open to amendment if it ends up creating a right mess of matters?
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Postby Sciongrad » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:20 pm

States of Glory WA Office wrote:
Sciongrad wrote:Brief announcement, my friends.

GenSec has made a modification to our procedures for hearing challenges. For all challenges going forward (excluding those that began prior to the adoption of this procedure), the quorum for GenSec will be set at 4 and a hard time limit of 120 hours will be placed on all queries. In other words, if the decision is 3-1 in favor of legality after 5 days, that opinion is controlling, even though two other members failed to vote. This is our effort to cut down on the time it takes for us to deliver opinions.

I tentatively support this change, though I presume that the policy is open to amendment if it ends up creating a right mess of matters?

There will be no failure. The procedure also explicitly states that we're not allowed to mess up.

In the unlikely event we fail spectacularly, of course the policy will be revised.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:43 pm

Sciongrad wrote:Brief announcement, my friends.

GenSec has made a modification to our procedures for hearing challenges. For all challenges going forward (excluding those that began prior to the adoption of this procedure), the quorum for GenSec will be set at 4 and a hard time limit of 120 hours will be placed on all queries. In other words, if the decision is 3-1 in favor of legality after 5 days, that opinion is controlling, even though two other members failed to vote. This is our effort to cut down on the time it takes for us to deliver opinions.

Excellent. Thank you for the new policy.
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Postby Araraukar » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:40 am

Sciongrad wrote:a hard time limit of 120 hours will be placed on all queries. In other words, if the decision is 3-1 in favor of legality after 5 days, that opinion is controlling, even though two other members failed to vote.

This is excellent news. Thank you, guys. :)
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:29 pm

This is terrible news. This policy should have been adopted only when a proposal has been submitted and a fast ruling is necessary.
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Postby Sciongrad » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:14 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:This is terrible news. This policy should have been adopted only when a proposal has been submitted and a fast ruling is necessary.

OK.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:15 pm

Sciongrad wrote:Brief announcement, my friends.

GenSec has made a modification to our procedures for hearing challenges. For all challenges going forward (excluding those that began prior to the adoption of this procedure), the quorum for GenSec will be set at 4 and a hard time limit of 120 hours will be placed on all queries. In other words, if the decision is 3-1 in favor of legality after 5 days, that opinion is controlling, even though two other members failed to vote. This is our effort to cut down on the time it takes for us to deliver opinions.

SL didn't move for a vote until Friday. Do you have a time machine or something?
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Postby Sciongrad » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:32 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Sciongrad wrote:Brief announcement, my friends.

GenSec has made a modification to our procedures for hearing challenges. For all challenges going forward (excluding those that began prior to the adoption of this procedure), the quorum for GenSec will be set at 4 and a hard time limit of 120 hours will be placed on all queries. In other words, if the decision is 3-1 in favor of legality after 5 days, that opinion is controlling, even though two other members failed to vote. This is our effort to cut down on the time it takes for us to deliver opinions.

SL didn't move for a vote until Friday. Do you have a time machine or something?

? I was the one who moved for the vote last Sunday.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:43 pm

Sciongrad wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:SL didn't move for a vote until Friday. Do you have a time machine or something?

? I was the one who moved for the vote last Sunday.

You said, "Can I get a second for both measures?" Nobody said that he was making a motion for a vote until Friday.
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GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

* denotes coauthorship
^ repealed resolution
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Postby Sciongrad » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:45 pm

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Sciongrad wrote:? I was the one who moved for the vote last Sunday.

You said, "Can I get a second for both measures?" Nobody said that he was making a motion for a vote until Friday.

I made the motion, which was seconded by SL the same night. It passed this past Thursday after the four day period elapsed. SL's motion in the same thread was for an entirely different proposal.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:10 pm

Sciongrad wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:You said, "Can I get a second for both measures?" Nobody said that he was making a motion for a vote until Friday.

I made the motion, which was seconded by SL the same night.

You didn't use the word "motion," "move," or "vote."

Sciongrad wrote:SL's motion in the same thread was for an entirely different proposal.

For which proposal?
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GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

* denotes coauthorship
^ repealed resolution
#360: Electile Dysfunction
#452: Foetal Furore
#560: Bicameral Backlash
#570: Clerical Errors

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Postby Sciongrad » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:16 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Sciongrad wrote:I made the motion, which was seconded by SL the same night.

You didn't use the word "motion," "move," or "vote."

Was it not obvious from the fact that SL seconded and others proceeded to vote?

Sciongrad wrote:SL's motion in the same thread was for an entirely different proposal.

For which proposal?[/quote]
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Postby Morgantown West Virginia » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:15 pm

Would the Secretariat's be able to listen to a proposal about WA reform?

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Postby Tinfect » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:30 pm

Morgantown West Virginia wrote:Would the Secretariat's be able to listen to a proposal about WA reform?


No, they have no power over Gameside matters. You can ask for a Secretary General Position to be made over in the Technical forum. But, like every other time someone has tried, it will get shot down. When nearly everyone involved in the GA you've brought the idea to says it's an awful idea, it may be time to stop.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:41 pm

Morgantown West Virginia wrote:Would the Secretariat's be able to listen to a proposal about WA reform?

If you want to suggest reform on our behavior, please do so here. Please note, however, that you cannot submit them for consideration as resolutions. The GenSec is an Out Of Character entity, while the voting system you see on the World Assembly game page is an In Character institution. GenSec serves the Out Of Character function of clarifying rules and assessing the legality of proposals.

We are always happy to hear constructive suggestions from this thread that will improve our relationship with the player base and streamline the process of legality rulings.

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Postby Flanderlion » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:02 pm

Tinfect wrote:
Morgantown West Virginia wrote:Would the Secretariat's be able to listen to a proposal about WA reform?


No, they have no power over Gameside matters. You can ask for a Secretary General Position to be made over in the Technical forum. But, like every other time someone has tried, it will get shot down. When nearly everyone involved in the GA you've brought the idea to says it's an awful idea, it may be time to stop.

Good thing tech changes aren't purely made from the GA viewpoint. And shot down, I'm pretty sure it's still on the to do list, just not high up so won't happen for years.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:28 pm

Flanderlion wrote:
Tinfect wrote:
No, they have no power over Gameside matters. You can ask for a Secretary General Position to be made over in the Technical forum. But, like every other time someone has tried, it will get shot down. When nearly everyone involved in the GA you've brought the idea to says it's an awful idea, it may be time to stop.

Good thing tech changes aren't purely made from the GA viewpoint. And shot down, I'm pretty sure it's still on the to do list, just not high up so won't happen for years.

A Secretary General position? It is not on the to do list. The GenSec group is Moderation's response to the growing need for GA experts in the administration of the GA. No Secretary General position is on any list, except perhaps a blacklist.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:56 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:No Secretary General position is on any list, except perhaps a blacklist.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:19 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:No Secretary General position is on any list, except perhaps a blacklist.

Separatist Peoples for Secretary General 2017!

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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:51 pm

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Separatist Peoples wrote:No Secretary General position is on any list, except perhaps a blacklist.

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Postby Wansul » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:01 am

I have a freind whose nation is called Beutarch, he is good with grammar and spelling, and has fairly good reasoning. He could be a good person to do this, if you need more people.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:25 am

Wansul wrote:I have a freind whose nation is called Beutarch, he is good with grammar and spelling, and has fairly good reasoning. He could be a good person to do this, if you need more people.

We will take that under advisement.

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