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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:01 pm

PARSONS: Here's a benefit to multipurpose office space at the World Assembly. If anything goes wrong — weapon nullifiers prevent things from going out of control. On the other hand, they don't have those weapon nullifiers when nations organise their own summits.

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Postby The United Royal Islands of Euramathania » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:13 am

A Meridian: I ask for clarification in regards to the proposal. It seems to me the existence of this new multipurpose office space is for diplomatic negotiations primarily in order to prevent wars. We wonder how then it can be justified as multipurpose when there is only one purpose listed here? Should it not be the WA Negotiation Hall?
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Postby The Second Moon Rising » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:54 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:2. Requires member nations to send at least one representative, who may or may not be the ambassador of that member nation to the World Assembly, to attend meetings at the TEZ, called for the purpose of avoiding armed conflict, when called upon by any other member nation;

The Riser delegate taps a finger on its desk. "This one wonders if this one has understood the intent correctly: this proposal does not mandate that nations on the brink of armed conflict must automatically use these facilities, but requires a nation to comply to using them when another nation -- this one would presume that the spirit of this proposal would mean a nation be involved in and/or the target of the imminent armed conflict, but the current wording seems to go much broader than it should -- requests the use of these facilities?"
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:31 pm

The United Royal Islands of Euramathania wrote:A Meridian: I ask for clarification in regards to the proposal. It seems to me the existence of this new multipurpose office space is for diplomatic negotiations primarily in order to prevent wars. We wonder how then it can be justified as multipurpose when there is only one purpose listed here? Should it not be the WA Negotiation Hall?

PARSONS: The other primary purpose is already established in the WA HQ resolution. Thus, this would be a second purpose, and therefore, turn much of this office space we are currently standing in, into Multipurpose Office Space!

The Second Moon Rising wrote:this one would presume that the spirit of this proposal would mean a nation be involved in and/or the target of the imminent armed conflict, but the current wording seems to go much broader than it should -- requests the use of these facilities?"[/i]

OOC: I don't understand what this means. Please clarify.

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Postby Bakhton » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:45 pm

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Postby The Second Moon Rising » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:30 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:[
The Second Moon Rising wrote:this one would presume that the spirit of this proposal would mean a nation be involved in and/or the target of the imminent armed conflict, but the current wording seems to go much broader than it should -- requests the use of these facilities?"[/i]

OOC: I don't understand what this means. Please clarify.

OOC: That the nations directly involved in the conflict are the ones that can call for the use of the TEZ. Targeted/targeter, aggressor/aggressee (am I making up words?), -maybe- neighbouring nations that have justifiable fear of events spilling over borders and into their lands.The current wording, however, translated to me that Universal Mother Hen Nation #24601 who has absolutely nothing to do with the involved nations could jump in and demand time-outs to the TEZ just because they feel like it. Which... if you were meaning to allow that, it seems a bit too over-reaching.
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Postby Unibot III » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:58 am

Araraukar wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Hmmmmmmmmm.. FT, IS, GD, or FoD?

You should know that you should pick a category first and then write to the category, not the other way round.


It's very clearly "Global Disarmament (Mild)", Imperium Anglorum. This isn't a case of category bending, the subject matter is very much GD. Furtherment of Democracy isn't relevant because the negotiations aren't strictly or necessarily furthering democracy (they could be negotiations between autocrats), just as trade isn't necessarily the subject matter of the talks, nor would it raise the militancy of member-nations, but the facilitation of negotiations is necessarily furthering global peace.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:31 pm

Unibot III wrote:It's very clearly "Global Disarmament (Mild)", Imperium Anglorum. This isn't a case of category bending, the subject matter is very much GD. Furtherment of Democracy isn't relevant because the negotiations aren't strictly or necessarily furthering democracy (they could be negotiations between autocrats), just as trade isn't necessarily the subject matter of the talks, nor would it raise the militancy of member-nations, but the facilitation of negotiations is necessarily furthering global peace.

If we take an extremely narrow conception of the categories, which everyone seems to do these days, how would it reduce military spending?
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:22 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Unibot III wrote:It's very clearly "Global Disarmament (Mild)", Imperium Anglorum. This isn't a case of category bending, the subject matter is very much GD. Furtherment of Democracy isn't relevant because the negotiations aren't strictly or necessarily furthering democracy (they could be negotiations between autocrats), just as trade isn't necessarily the subject matter of the talks, nor would it raise the militancy of member-nations, but the facilitation of negotiations is necessarily furthering global peace.

If we take an extremely narrow conception of the categories, which everyone seems to do these days, how would it reduce military spending?

Generally, improvement in diplomatic relations and development of more friendly international relationships results in a decreased focus on military spending. If your enemies are fewer and less intimidating, you don't spend as much money plotting how to fight them.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:01 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:If we take an extremely narrow conception of the categories, which everyone seems to do these days, how would it reduce military spending?

Generally, improvement in diplomatic relations and development of more friendly international relationships results in a decreased focus on military spending. If your enemies are fewer and less intimidating, you don't spend as much money plotting how to fight them.


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Postby Unibot III » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:56 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:If we take an extremely narrow conception of the categories, which everyone seems to do these days, how would it reduce military spending?

Generally, improvement in diplomatic relations and development of more friendly international relationships results in a decreased focus on military spending. If your enemies are fewer and less intimidating, you don't spend as much money plotting how to fight them.


Precisely. Global disarmament is more or less, the WA's "peace" category.

In that respect, I disagree with the category choice with the Diplomat Protection Act but that precedent, Furtherment of Democracy / Significant, is really the only thing that would dissuade me from selecting Global Disarmament.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:36 am

NORTH: I think that it is acceptable to submit this proposal to the Global Disarmament board. However that is, I have been instructed to signal that the United Commonwealth–

NORTH: (to aide) You know, on the coronation stuff and a number of the more traditional documents, it still says Democratic Empire. Quite confusing. I mean, are we doing a rebrand or not?

NORTH: (to body) –is continuing to pursue this proposal.

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Postby The United Royal Islands of Euramathania » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:08 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
The United Royal Islands of Euramathania wrote:A Meridian: I ask for clarification in regards to the proposal. It seems to me the existence of this new multipurpose office space is for diplomatic negotiations primarily in order to prevent wars. We wonder how then it can be justified as multipurpose when there is only one purpose listed here? Should it not be the WA Negotiation Hall?

PARSONS: The other primary purpose is already established in the WA HQ resolution. Thus, this would be a second purpose, and therefore, turn much of this office space we are currently standing in, into Multipurpose Office Space!

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A. Meridian: You mean to say that you want to share our existing Headquarters with this new purpose? Wherever will we have the space among all the offices, grand lobbies, landing/entry areas, and the debate chambers? It is quite crowded already! Also to that point is the fact that it has been proven time and time again, this is not a peaceful place to work! What with an ambassador being demonstrated and placed on leave as such was our colleagues from Glory States, among many other incidents, disrupting the work of the General Assembly. The current headquarters is far too hectic to play host to delicate negotiations. That the Twilight Embassy Zone would exist within the WA HQ complex, means it would necessarily be subject to the insanity that often overcomes this body and its members. We feel that such distractions would only serve to complicate and hinder the work trying to be achieved your otherwise wonderful resolution.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:18 pm

The United Royal Islands of Euramathania wrote:A. Meridian: You mean to say that you want to share our existing Headquarters with this new purpose? Wherever will we have the space among all the offices, grand lobbies, landing/entry areas, and the debate chambers? It is quite crowded already! Also to that point is the fact that it has been proven time and time again, this is not a peaceful place to work! What with an ambassador being demonstrated and placed on leave as such was our colleagues from Glory States, among many other incidents, disrupting the work of the General Assembly. The current headquarters is far too hectic to play host to delicate negotiations. That the Twilight Embassy Zone would exist within the WA HQ complex, means it would necessarily be subject to the insanity that often overcomes this body and its members. We feel that such distractions would only serve to complicate and hinder the work trying to be achieved your otherwise wonderful resolution.

NORTH: I think we have very different ideas about how large and vast this headquarters really is. These are some images captured from the grounds.

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Postby The United Royal Islands of Euramathania » Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:30 pm

A Meridian: That appears quite small, and yet you still believe it would be a good idea to add another function in our already crowed spaces? It is widely known throughout these Halls that there are frequently delays in being assigned office space, can you imagine the incidents that would be caused by scheduling delays, and gnome incompetence, in your proposed Twilight Zone? Why it could start war instead of stopping them! Further your nice tranquil pictures do not offer any assurances that the chaos that often swirls around this body will not find its way into the Twilight Zone; especially given that you propose that we tuck in further and share our space with it. Many incidents have happened this passed year which are normal for the ambassadors of this esteemed body, a group I believe referred to in GA#8 as
GA # 8 - World Assembly Headquarters wrote:international envoys of "drunks, stoners, weirdos, military fruitcakes, sex addicts, rejects, dear little kiddies, honest family types, and militant machistas";
. Yet those same incidents would be very likely to derail the sense of peace your Twilight Zone needs achieve its very important work.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:28 pm

The United Royal Islands of Euramathania wrote:
A Meridian: That appears quite small, and yet you still believe it would be a good idea to add another function in our already crowed spaces? It is widely known throughout these Halls that there are frequently delays in being assigned office space, can you imagine the incidents that would be caused by scheduling delays, and gnome incompetence, in your proposed Twilight Zone? Why it could start war instead of stopping them! Further your nice tranquil pictures do not offer any assurances that the chaos that often swirls around this body will not find its way into the Twilight Zone; especially given that you propose that we tuck in further and share our space with it. Many incidents have happened this passed year which are normal for the ambassadors of this esteemed body, a group I believe referred to in GA#8 as
GA # 8 - World Assembly Headquarters wrote:international envoys of "drunks, stoners, weirdos, military fruitcakes, sex addicts, rejects, dear little kiddies, honest family types, and militant machistas";
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NORTH: I don't know where you are in the WA headquarters, but the WA headquarters is huge. We have experienced no delays in office assignment, and no real space concerns. Maybe this was an issue when the WAHQ was first being set up, but it is no longer.

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:52 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:NORTH: I don't know where you are in the WA headquarters, but the WA headquarters is huge. We have experienced no delays in office assignment, and no real space concerns. Maybe this was an issue when the WAHQ was first being set up, but it is no longer.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:03 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:NORTH: I don't know where you are in the WA headquarters, but the WA headquarters is huge. We have experienced no delays in office assignment, and no real space concerns. Maybe this was an issue when the WAHQ was first being set up, but it is no longer.

"Tell that to some of our ambassadors, and they will laugh at you. We still have top ambassadors operating out of restroom stalls, for Notch's sake."

NORTH: Have you been paying your dues? We have office suites out here.
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Caramelldancers wrote:"What's to stop us from lobbing a beehive into the negotiation chamber and declaring the angry insects our representatives?" Tarja asked.

NORTH: Nothing. But, the weapon nullifiers prevent those angry insects from hurting the other party.

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Caramelldancers wrote:"What's to stop us from lobbing a beehive into the negotiation chamber and declaring the angry insects our representatives?" Tarja asked.

NORTH: Nothing. But, the weapon nullifiers prevent those angry insects from hurting the other party.


"So, basically, we can force representatives of nations we don't like to spend every moment of their time, even foregoing sleep, trapped in a room filled with angry insects under this?" Tarja asked. "What's to stop this from being used as a legal method of harassing delegates from other nations?"

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:06 pm

Caramelldancers wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:NORTH: Nothing. But, the weapon nullifiers prevent those angry insects from hurting the other party.

"So, basically, we can force representatives of nations we don't like to spend every moment of their time, even foregoing sleep, trapped in a room filled with angry insects under this?" Tarja asked. "What's to stop this from being used as a legal method of harassing delegates from other nations?"

NORTH: Wouldn't really be for the purposes of peace then, huh?

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Postby Caramelldancers » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:42 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Caramelldancers wrote:"So, basically, we can force representatives of nations we don't like to spend every moment of their time, even foregoing sleep, trapped in a room filled with angry insects under this?" Tarja asked. "What's to stop this from being used as a legal method of harassing delegates from other nations?"

NORTH: Wouldn't really be for the purposes of peace then, huh?


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