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RECOGNIZES a military draft as a forceful conscription of citizens into a military force.

ACKNOWLEDGES that a military draft encroaches on the rights of anyone at any time.

REALIZES that military drafts have been used before and, if not stopped, may be used again.

RECOGNIZES a selective service as a means by which a government may prepare for military conscription

FORBIDS any nation from creating a selective service to prepare for a military draft.

AlSO FORBIDS any nation from creating any type of military draft.



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Sorry My, computer posted this twice; its acting dumb.

You did not need two topics on this. The threads have been merged.

Elktown wrote:RECOGNIZES a military draft as a forceful conscription of citizens into a military force.

ACKNOWLEDGES that a military draft encroaches on the rights of anyone at any time.

REALIZES that military drafts have been used before and, if not stopped, may be used again.

RECOGNIZES a selective service as a means by which a government may prepare for military conscription

FORBIDS any nation from creating a selective service to prepare for a military draft.

AlSO FORBIDS any nation from creating any type of military draft.



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Category & Strength?

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

Elktown wrote:RECOGNIZES a military draft as a forceful conscription of citizens into a military force.

ACKNOWLEDGES that a military draft encroaches on the rights of anyone at any time.

REALIZES that military drafts have been used before and, if not stopped, may be used again.

RECOGNIZES a selective service as a means by which a government may prepare for military conscription

FORBIDS any nation from creating a selective service to prepare for a military draft.

AlSO FORBIDS any nation from creating any type of military draft.



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We shall add this. We cannot and will not ever, in any way, ever, support anything such as this. We do not require either your delegation or the WA dictating to us such blatant social engineering and interference. Never.

Such blather is for fools. Perhaps you would feel differently once you were invaded?

We will never support such thing at any costs. It goes against the security of a individual nation.

Do you know how stupid this is ; for larger nations like yourself , such a proposal may be okay , as you might be able to maintain forces large enough to fend off an attack ; but if such a proposal was ever passed through the WA , then my nations military efficiency would be smashed over the nose ; and my ability to mobilize if attacked by a bigger power would be severely compromised. It would definitely encourage me , and needless to say , many other nations to pour vast amounts of money into their Nuclear arsenals , so that we could at least retaliate in some manner or form to aggression from greater powers - look at nuclear disarmament first !

I'd support a universal removal of military drafts when such drafting is to conduct an engagement of war against another WA nation.

My god no! This is completely outside the boundaries of any reasonable proposal citizens are entitled to the rights of protection and security in their homeland and obligated to come to their nations defense if the second call is sounded.

military service is compulsory for all citizens in Ainocra. This proposal is not only a threat to our security but to our very way of life.

We will never support it. To do so would be an insult to the men and women who have already given their lives to protect our great nation.

We find this proposal from the representative of Elktown to be both distasteful and overly intrusive.

The use of mandatory national service either in the military of one of the public service branches is an important rite of passage for all youth in the Empire of Poree. We will not only reject this, but actively work to defeat it.

National Service is a tool in Skibereen which enables lower taxes and increased Social Services. As well the service provided by the mandatory Military service agreement allows youth to experience from the outset of adult the best of work place values. The cultural significance of this proposal would be a death knell to the Irysh-Finegall Culture and Social system, theoretically collapsing our economy and educational system.
No such legislation will ever be supported.

The honoured ambassador personally would support this, but is forced to respect the wishes of other member states to retain the draft for many reasons: self-defence, protection against enemies and so on. What about allowing conscientious objection?

Yours,

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:The honoured ambassador personally would support this, but is forced to respect the wishes of other member states to retain the draft for many reasons: self-defence, protection against enemies and so on. What about allowing conscientious objection?Yours,

Why does that require a WA resolution? This is honestly something best left to each individual nation to decide. The WA has no business mandating who and what may or may not be permitted in national militaries. This is little better than one nation attempting to push their own viewpoint upon everybody by declaring "freedom from conscription" to be some manner of "right". Social engineering, nothing more.

I do not and will never support a movement of this sort.

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:The honoured ambassador personally would support this, but is forced to respect the wishes of other member states to retain the draft for many reasons: self-defence, protection against enemies and so on. What about allowing conscientious objection?

Yours,

We tend to agree with Honorable gentleman from Grays Harbor.
While culturally in Skibereen National Service has avenues available for the Conscientious Objector, typically Muslims in our nation based on religious reasons some nations do not recognize religious belief to hold sway over matters of state. Here to there certainly exist a myriad of logical reason both pro and con to differing opinions on such a status hence it should indeed be left to the individual nations and their respective cultures.

I yield.

+Holy Land of Scripo+
We Need our Armies to Protect our Region
We are (At this very Moment)
The Only Nation in the Grand Holy Land

I Belive you would also Act Diffrently if you were Invaded

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:The honoured ambassador personally would support this, but is forced to respect the wishes of other member states to retain the draft for many reasons: self-defence, protection against enemies and so on. What about allowing conscientious objection?

Yours,

We concur with the honoured Ambassador for Charlotte Ryberg and would like to also add that we are doubtful that even if the motion came to vote, which is unlikely, and was passed that it's application would be difficult. It would have to be broken if a country needed their public for self defence, using the example the honoured Ambassador used. And in our eyes, no government is above the law.

Regards,

Yasminé Pontif
Minister for the World Assembly at the Department of Foreign Affairs

The fact supporting our support for the global abolition for military drafts is the low morale and preparedness it may result, the professional and voluntary service seems to go much further in our opinion. BTW, I tried to draft on conscientious objection to a generally poor response.

Elktown wrote:RECOGNIZES a military draft as a forceful conscription of citizens into a military force.

ACKNOWLEDGES that a military draft encroaches on the rights of anyone at any time.

REALIZES that military drafts have been used before and, if not stopped, may be used again.

RECOGNIZES a selective service as a means by which a government may prepare for military conscription

FORBIDS any nation from creating a selective service to prepare for a military draft.

AlSO FORBIDS any nation from creating any type of military draft.



Feel free to add to this.

I want no part of this, nahhh. NOPE, not gonna happen. This kind of thing would weaken many nation's ability to protect themselves.

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:The fact supporting our support for the global abolition for military drafts is the low morale and preparedness it may result, the professional and voluntary service seems to go much further in our opinion. BTW, I tried to draft on conscientious objection to a generally poor response.

I've bumped it back up. Considering the general consensus that this is not a good proposal, bringing yours back into the fore might provide debate and, as a result, it becomes a reasonable alternative to this draft.

This stinks of mandatory pacifism. It's every citizen's duty to protect his/her nation.

We cannot support such a proposal. The option of a draft may be needed in the interests of our national security.

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:The fact supporting our support for the global abolition for military drafts is the low morale and preparedness it may result, the professional and voluntary service seems to go much further in our opinion. BTW, I tried to draft on conscientious objection to a generally poor response.

If they don't want to be there and are not combat ready they will become excellent meat shields for those who answered the first call.