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Araraukar
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:39 pm

Isn't it also at least partially duplication? Especially the oil tankers bits. And fairly sure there also is a resolution frowning down on use of coal power.
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:55 am

Araraukar wrote:Isn't it also at least partially duplication? Especially the oil tankers bits. And fairly sure there also is a resolution frowning down on use of coal power.

The only resolution that I can find on oil tankers was repealed, and the other resolution that frowns on coal power doesn't suggest these methods for handling it so I think that that bit falls within the "acceptable expansion" type of duplication.

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Now, for reference _

Nonpartisan Elections Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Akehurstland

The Nations of the World Assembly,

CONVINCED that political partisanship in elections should be outlawed by the State.

CONVINCED that political partisanship is creating more problems than solving.

BELIEVING nonpartisan elections can reduce crime by removing the party labels candidates
have.

BELIEVING politicians should be voted for based on merit and not their political affiliation.

The following articles are requirements, not suggestions.

Article 1
(a) Politicians and political candidates can still express their political affiliation but it will not be labeled next to their name at voting booths.
(b) Politicians who are elected into office cannot change their title to label themselves as a part of a political party.
(c) Political candidates must provide a brief description of themselves to be shown for the benefit of voters at voting booths. Three policies the candidate supports and three policies the candidate does not support must be included in addition to the brief description.

Article 2
(a) Voters will compulsorily vote for candidates running for election by first choosing the candidate they want to vote for and second by rating the top five leadership abilities in a political candidate.
(b) The top five leadership abilities will be chosen by a follow up proposal to the General Assembly after this proposal is submitted.
(c) Any nation willing to propose five leadership abilities that voters will vote on may do so as long as the proposal is submitted no longer than two days after this proposal to the General Assembly. The five leadership abilities must be added to Article two section g after future follow up proposals.
(d) The top five chosen leadership abilities will be voted on a scale of one to ten to compose a candidate merit score.
(e) The candidate with the highest number of votes and/or the highest merit score will be the winner for each individual election.
(f) The electoral college for all nations will be abolished.
(g)

Approvals: 2 (United England N Wales, Tinhampton)

GenSec Status: ILLEGAL — HELD
Illegal (1): Bears Armed
Seconds ago: Bears Armed: Illegal — Category incorrect (Restricting a nation's ability to choose & change its own form of government is NOT 'Civil Rights': in NS terms it is probably 'Political Stability'); Meta-gaming (in thsi case, the fact that Articles 2.a-c. would REQUIRE further GA action, which resolutions can't do... and the "follow up proposal" that you mention there would almost certainly be illegal under the 'House of Cards': in fact, those clauses arguably make THIS proposal illegal under that rule!)... and resolutions cannot be amended once passed, so filling-out Article 2.g. as you specify wouldn't be possible anyway. If you want to continue with this project then I suggest strongly that you take it to the GA forum for re-drafting &d feedback, but I advise you in advance that getting anything like this getting passed would probably require a miracle.

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Postby Merni » Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:22 am

General Assembly Proposal
ID: kyundao_1581422799

Abolition Of Tariffs Act
A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.

Category: Free Trade
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Kyundao
The Republic of Kyundao recognizes that tariffs are detrimental to free trade and free markets, hence this proposal. To elaborate, the reasoning goes as follows:

Tariffs, as taxes on exports and imports, can be lowered or raised at any time. This has the potential for abuse as any member of the World Assembly who harbors an intense hatred towards other members regardless of various differences can use tariffs as weapons against the member nations being targeted. Additionally, tariffs would discourage businesses and traders from doing business in nations who have tariffs in place, harming both economic growth and the spread of ideas that member nations may need in the future.

Tariffs, if applied to exports, would also prevent domestic producers and businesses from selling their products abroad whether those products be food or raw materials that other nations may need. In the process, this would not only create what would essentially be economic isolation, but it would diplomatically alienate one member of the World Assembly from its allies as well. Even worse, such tariffs would also result in member nations suffering from humanitarian crises.

With this in mind, it is in the best interests of all members of the World Assembly to do away with tariffs completely.

Approvals: 0

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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:20 am

Merni wrote:
General Assembly Proposal
ID: kyundao_1581422799

Abolition Of Tariffs Act
A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.

Category: Free Trade
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Kyundao
The Republic of Kyundao recognizes that tariffs are detrimental to free trade and free markets, hence this proposal. To elaborate, the reasoning goes as follows:

Tariffs, as taxes on exports and imports, can be lowered or raised at any time. This has the potential for abuse as any member of the World Assembly who harbors an intense hatred towards other members regardless of various differences can use tariffs as weapons against the member nations being targeted. Additionally, tariffs would discourage businesses and traders from doing business in nations who have tariffs in place, harming both economic growth and the spread of ideas that member nations may need in the future.

Tariffs, if applied to exports, would also prevent domestic producers and businesses from selling their products abroad whether those products be food or raw materials that other nations may need. In the process, this would not only create what would essentially be economic isolation, but it would diplomatically alienate one member of the World Assembly from its allies as well. Even worse, such tariffs would also result in member nations suffering from humanitarian crises.

With this in mind, it is in the best interests of all members of the World Assembly to do away with tariffs completely.

Approvals: 0

GenSec Status: LEGAL
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Proposal basics/doesn't actually have any effect/branding.

And if it was binding then it would contradict existing legislation.
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:39 am

Bears Armed wrote:The only resolution that I can find on oil tankers was repealed

Yeah, it was its replacement I was trying to remember. Coughing almost constantly (laryngitis that's trying to become bronchitis) has made me fuzzy-headed.

Still, the bits about oil tankers are a better fit to Regulation: Transport of the modern categories and AoEs available.
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Blueflarst wrote:a cosmopolitan hammer
United Massachusetts wrote:Can we all call ourselves "cosmopolitan hammers"?
Us cosmopolitan hammers
Can teach some manners
Often sorely lacking
Hence us attacking
Silly GA spammers

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Postby Apple User Land » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:40 am

:clap:
Araraukar wrote:Isn't it also at least partially duplication? Especially the oil tankers bits. And fairly sure there also is a resolution frowning down on use of coal power.

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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:12 am

Araraukar wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:The only resolution that I can find on oil tankers was repealed

Yeah, it was its replacement I was trying to remember. Coughing almost constantly (laryngitis that's trying to become bronchitis) has made me fuzzy-headed.
Still, the bits about oil tankers are a better fit to Regulation: Transport of the modern categories and AoEs available.

Ah. I didn't remember that one, and only did a quick search of the Passed GA Resolutions thread using the keyword "tanker"... which isn't in that one's text.
Hope that the laryngitis gets better, rather than worse.
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Our population is approximately 20 million. We do have a national government, although its role is strictly limited. Economy = thriving. Those aren't "biker gangs", they're our traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies'... and are generally respected, not feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
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Postby Merni » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:14 am

A bumper crop today!
General Assembly Proposal
ID: ethan_the_great_1581562154

Global Weapons Of Mass Destruction
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Ethan the Great
Weapons of mass destruction are never looked at good. But they are weapons of peace. We should require, in the interest of peace, arm all countries.
1. Weapons of mass destruction will increase peace. Mutually assured destruction is the best way to keep peace.
2. Every country can now properly defend themselves from warmongers and terrorists.
3. The threat of force has been shown to be an effective deterrent.
In conclusion, we need these weapons in the interest of the greater good. People will die. That is undeniable. But this is for the greater good.

Approvals: 1 (ChickenPortrait)

GenSec Status: LEGAL
Info
Status: Lacking Support (requires 69 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 18 hours

Proposal basics, no actual effect.
General Assembly Proposal
ID: harainerapest_1581574711

Condemn Democratic Federation Of Nations
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Harainerapest
Bearing in mind the human rights violations done by this region, I would like to propose their banning from the WA

Approvals: 1 (Harainerapest)

GenSec Status: LEGAL
Info
Status: Lacking Support (requires 69 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 6 hours

Game mechanics, metagaming, proposal basics, branding, wrong category.
General Assembly Proposal
ID: of_the_united_kingdom_and_south_iptica_1581538999

WA Standards For Workers Continuation Act
A resolution to enact uniform standards that protect workers, consumers, and the general public.

Category: Regulation
Area of Effect: Labour Rights
Proposed by: Of the United Kingdom and south iptica
The General Assembly, due to major worker violations in nations across the WA, the following points will attempt to give workers more rights and control employers.
——————————————-
1. the WA member minimal wage will be created, it will be 9$ per hour of a stable currency.
2. all employees are to be given a raise of 10%-50% on special occasions recognized by the government of the WA

Approvals: 2 (Tinhampton, United England N Wales)

GenSec Status: LEGAL
Info
Status: Lacking Support (requires 68 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 18 hours

Referencing dollars. Also, "government of the WA"?
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:29 am

Merni wrote:A bumper crop today!
Global Weapons Of Mass Destruction
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Ethan the Great
Weapons of mass destruction are never looked at good. But they are weapons of peace. We should require, in the interest of peace, arm all countries.
1. Weapons of mass destruction will increase peace. Mutually assured destruction is the best way to keep peace.
2. Every country can now properly defend themselves from warmongers and terrorists.
3. The threat of force has been shown to be an effective deterrent.
In conclusion, we need these weapons in the interest of the greater good. People will die. That is undeniable. But this is for the greater good.

Approvals: 1 (ChickenPortrait)

GenSec Status: LEGAL
Info
Status: Lacking Support (requires 69 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 18 hours

Proposal basics, no actual effect.

And of course existing GA legislation limits some forms of WMD, or even bans their use by members completely, anyyway.

Condemn Democratic Federation Of Nations
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Harainerapest
Bearing in mind the human rights violations done by this region, I would like to propose their banning from the WA

Approvals: 1 (Harainerapest)

GenSec Status: LEGAL
Info
Status: Lacking Support (requires 69 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 6 hours

Game mechanics, metagaming, proposal basics, branding, wrong category.

Wrong category? Wrong COUNCIL!

WA Standards For Workers Continuation Act
A resolution to enact uniform standards that protect workers, consumers, and the general public.

Category: Regulation
Area of Effect: Labour Rights
Proposed by: Of the United Kingdom and south iptica
The General Assembly, due to major worker violations in nations across the WA, the following points will attempt to give workers more rights and control employers.
——————————————-
1. the WA member minimal wage will be created, it will be 9$ per hour of a stable currency.
2. all employees are to be given a raise of 10%-50% on special occasions recognized by the government of the WA

Approvals: 2 (Tinhampton, United England N Wales)

GenSec Status: LEGAL
Info
Status: Lacking Support (requires 68 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 18 hours

Referencing dollars. Also, "government of the WA"?

Agreed.
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:02 pm

Merni wrote:
Approvals: 2 (Tinhampton, United England N Wales)

I'm mostly surprised that Tinhampton, who's kinda supposed to know how GA works, or at least the basics, would have approved that. :blink:
Fever's gone away, but my ears are still half-blocked and I'm coughing in a way that sounds like the wet stuff in my air tubes isn't actually moving. But at least I've gotten some sleep finally.
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Us cosmopolitan hammers
Can teach some manners
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Postby Wayneactia » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:05 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Merni wrote:
Approvals: 2 (Tinhampton, United England N Wales)

I'm mostly surprised that Tinhampton, who's kinda supposed to know how GA works, or at least the basics, would have approved that. :blink:

Maybe she is becoming the new Vancouvia? Approving everything? :lol:

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Postby Merni » Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:34 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Araraukar wrote:I'm mostly surprised that Tinhampton, who's kinda supposed to know how GA works, or at least the basics, would have approved that. :blink:

Maybe she is becoming the new Vancouvia? Approving everything? :lol:

Yeah, I have noticed Tinhampton's approval on a few dubious proposals.
Edit: More than a few; she is currently approving all four proposals in queue marked Illegal, and hers is the only approval on two of them.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:24 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=bagstrom_1581695208

Workers Rights
A resolution to develop industry around the world.

Category: Advancement of Industry

Area of Effect: Labor Deregulation

Proposed by: Bagstrom

After observing the treatment of workers in most countries, legislation should be passed to sanction the fair treatment of workers nearby. This should establish several rights that will be directed towards the workforce of the world.

1. Establish a minimum wage; each country will decide on it’s minimum wage in the currency that is in place in that particular country.

2. Give workers healthcare; workers of all professions deserve to be given the right to healthcare

3. Workers should be given less hours a day; reduce the hours of workers to give them ample time to be with family or other matters

4. Give workers vacation days; these can be utilized to take breaks from the workplace as they choose

Area of effect is wrong based on the content: "labor deregulation"...
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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:25 am

The New California Republic wrote:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=bagstrom_1581695208

Workers Rights
A resolution to develop industry around the world.

Category: Advancement of Industry

Area of Effect: Labor Deregulation

Proposed by: Bagstrom

After observing the treatment of workers in most countries, legislation should be passed to sanction the fair treatment of workers nearby. This should establish several rights that will be directed towards the workforce of the world.

1. Establish a minimum wage; each country will decide on it’s minimum wage in the currency that is in place in that particular country.

2. Give workers healthcare; workers of all professions deserve to be given the right to healthcare

3. Workers should be given less hours a day; reduce the hours of workers to give them ample time to be with family or other matters

4. Give workers vacation days; these can be utilized to take breaks from the workplace as they choose

Area of effect is wrong based on the content: "labor deregulation"...

Agreed.

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*<returns from Submitted GA Proposals page>*
Illegal - Category/Area of Effect incorrect (This is not DEregulation...); No Operative Clause (because should" doesn't DO anything); and if it DID do things then there would be significant overlap with existing resolutions...
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Postby Araraukar » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:15 am

The New California Republic wrote:
After observing the treatment of workers in most countries, legislation should be passed to sanction the fair treatment of workers nearby. This should establish several rights that will be directed towards the workforce of the world.

1. Establish a minimum wage; each country will decide on it’s minimum wage in the currency that is in place in that particular country.

2. Give workers healthcare; workers of all professions deserve to be given the right to healthcare

3. Workers should be given less hours a day; reduce the hours of workers to give them ample time to be with family or other matters

4. Give workers vacation days; these can be utilized to take breaks from the workplace as they choose

Also, if the starting bit is the main clause, the list just being what "should" be established, then it lacks operative clause as "should" doesn't actually do anything.
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Araraukar wrote:
Blueflarst wrote:a cosmopolitan hammer
United Massachusetts wrote:Can we all call ourselves "cosmopolitan hammers"?
Us cosmopolitan hammers
Can teach some manners
Often sorely lacking
Hence us attacking
Silly GA spammers

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Postby Merni » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:55 pm

General Assembly Proposal
ID: trumpernia_1581738661
Repeal: “Prevention of Torture”

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#9

Proposed by: Trumpernia

General Assembly Resolution #9 “Prevention of Torture” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Condemning the creation of an article involved in the prevention of the due law process without due thought;

Denying that said practises were designed as a ‘crime against humanity’, and can be limited so that said crime does not apply;

Realising the phsycological effects of torture on the mind;

Understanding that the use of such practises must be limited in use;

With knowledge that the actions restricted by subjected document must be carried out with caution if legalized;

Offering the idea that select use of above methods may offer a more effective method of crime prevention;

Knowing that nations can use the practises above without abusing said practises;

Giving reassurance to the Assembly that a limited appeal is not suggested for abuse of methods listed;

Suggesting that limited use of the practises above for prevention of criminal activity would be beneficial to the world with results of reduced criminal activity;

Concluding that a repeal of "Prevention Of Torture" will benefit all member nations.

Approvals: 0
GenSec Status: LEGAL
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Status: Lacking Support (requires 70 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

Does a repeal need an operative clause?
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You're supposed to be employing the arts of diplomacy, not the ruddy great thumping sledgehammers of diplomacy. — Ardchoille

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion [...] but rather by its superiority in applying organised violence. — Samuel P. Huntington

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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:50 am

Merni wrote:Does a repeal need an operative clause?
The one that the game adds automatically is considered enough.
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Postby Merni » Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:24 am

General Assembly Proposal
ID: catowe_1581917225

Stronger Leaders And Elections
A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

Category: Political Stability
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Catowe
It has come to my attention that many leaders don’t have much control over their nations. Sometimes I will see states with total and complete freedoms. Although I am not arguing that we take people’s rights away I do believe there needs to be some order and rules.

My nation will be used as an example of what others should become. I am a state that is ran by one figure head and is in complete control until they die.

I am not saying that we all must have a political system like this but I do think that having a powerful leader is important.

Here are some options I am suggesting
1. Have a pyramid system where one person has control and than the power level goes down like a triangle until you get to the base, the homeless
2. Have rules on elections like how you must be a legal citizen of the state to run or how you must be old enough
3. Keep it in the family you as a leader but make sure you and your loved ones stay in control
4. This is my favorite and believe that every country should follow: Before passing the leader should make a legal document of the top three people they want in charge, after passing one of these people will take control and become the new leader

I hope you consider these becoming the new options for elections and who has the power. I know the nations with more freedom might disagree with me but please think about the crimes that happen in your own home, your state. Please put the right people in power and make these states better.

I really do hope you consider this, it will greatly benefit the law and order of countries

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:13 am

Merni wrote:
General Assembly Proposal
ID: catowe_1581917225

Stronger Leaders And Elections
A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

Category: Political Stability
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Catowe
It has come to my attention that many leaders don’t have much control over their nations. Sometimes I will see states with total and complete freedoms. Although I am not arguing that we take people’s rights away I do believe there needs to be some order and rules.

My nation will be used as an example of what others should become. I am a state that is ran by one figure head and is in complete control until they die.

I am not saying that we all must have a political system like this but I do think that having a powerful leader is important.

Here are some options I am suggesting
1. Have a pyramid system where one person has control and than the power level goes down like a triangle until you get to the base, the homeless
2. Have rules on elections like how you must be a legal citizen of the state to run or how you must be old enough
3. Keep it in the family you as a leader but make sure you and your loved ones stay in control
4. This is my favorite and believe that every country should follow: Before passing the leader should make a legal document of the top three people they want in charge, after passing one of these people will take control and become the new leader

I hope you consider these becoming the new options for elections and who has the power. I know the nations with more freedom might disagree with me but please think about the crimes that happen in your own home, your state. Please put the right people in power and make these states better.

I really do hope you consider this, it will greatly benefit the law and order of countries

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Also ideology ban.
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Postby Bears Armed » Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:57 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Merni wrote:
General Assembly Proposal
ID: catowe_1581917225

Stronger Leaders And Elections
A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

Category: Political Stability
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Catowe
It has come to my attention that many leaders don’t have much control over their nations. Sometimes I will see states with total and complete freedoms. Although I am not arguing that we take people’s rights away I do believe there needs to be some order and rules.

My nation will be used as an example of what others should become. I am a state that is ran by one figure head and is in complete control until they die.

I am not saying that we all must have a political system like this but I do think that having a powerful leader is important.

Here are some options I am suggesting
1. Have a pyramid system where one person has control and than the power level goes down like a triangle until you get to the base, the homeless
2. Have rules on elections like how you must be a legal citizen of the state to run or how you must be old enough
3. Keep it in the family you as a leader but make sure you and your loved ones stay in control
4. This is my favorite and believe that every country should follow: Before passing the leader should make a legal document of the top three people they want in charge, after passing one of these people will take control and become the new leader

I hope you consider these becoming the new options for elections and who has the power. I know the nations with more freedom might disagree with me but please think about the crimes that happen in your own home, your state. Please put the right people in power and make these states better.

I really do hope you consider this, it will greatly benefit the law and order of countries

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Proposal basics, branding, ...

Also ideology ban.

Also 'No Operative Clause' (and, hence, incorrect strength).
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Postby Merni » Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:33 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Also ideology ban.

Also 'No Operative Clause' (and, hence, incorrect strength).

15 hours ago: Bears Armed: Illegal — Branding; No Operative Clause... and, because of the latter, incorrect Strength. (And if if DID have an operative clause then it would probably contravene the rule against Ideological Bans...)ou try

What's "ou try"? :p
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:57 am

Merni wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Also 'No Operative Clause' (and, hence, incorrect strength).

15 hours ago: Bears Armed: Illegal — Branding; No Operative Clause... and, because of the latter, incorrect Strength. (And if if DID have an operative clause then it would probably contravene the rule against Ideological Bans...)ou try

What's "ou try"? :p

:unsure:
Accidentally left over from an earlier "draft" of that line, I think.
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Postby Merni » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:21 pm

General Assembly Proposal
ID: the_silver_bloods_1582084633

Repeal: “World Assembly Headquarters”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal
Resolution: GA#8
Proposed by: The Silver Bloods
General Assembly Resolution #8 “World Assembly Headquarters” (Category: Political Stability; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The World Assembly,

ACKNOWLEDGING that the World Assembly fundamentally deserves an international headquarters for the sake of globalized diplomacy.

DECRYING the creation of the bureaucratic mandate system, the World Assembly Office of Building Management, introduced by GA Res. #8.

BELIEVING in the expectancy of etiquette, which is lacking in multiple facets of GA Res. #8, within the World Assembly.

UNDERLINING that the passage of GA Res. #8 was by a narrow vote of 4,918 to 4,499.

CONSIDERING the integrity of the resolution to be further compromised as the architect, Omigodtheykilledkenny, has since been condemned under Security Council Resolution #17 on the basis of corruption and defiance of General Assembly ordinance.

APPALLED that the ratification of GA Res. #8 has endured for nearly twelve years and must not stand from this moment further if the World Assembly is to remain a thoroughly respectable delegation.

DEMANDING that the existing World Assembly Headquarters, established by GA Res. #8, must be decommissioned immediately then eventually replaced with an incorruptible and honorable successor.

Approvals: 8 (Tinhampton, Kaystein, New Nationale Einheit, Ibenta, San Lumen, McMasterdonia, The Newest of Virginia, Marrabuk)

GenSec Status: LEGAL
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Status: Lacking Support (requires 63 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 22 hours

Legislating in repeal, referring to SC.
Some big names are approving this!
Edit: Is referring to voting numbers, which are technically related to the NS gameside (and regions), illegal or are the votes considered to happen in the same way in RP?
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Postby The New Nordic Union » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:27 am

Merni wrote:
General Assembly Proposal
ID: the_silver_bloods_1582084633

Repeal: “World Assembly Headquarters”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal
Resolution: GA#8
Proposed by: The Silver Bloods
General Assembly Resolution #8 “World Assembly Headquarters” (Category: Political Stability; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The World Assembly,

ACKNOWLEDGING that the World Assembly fundamentally deserves an international headquarters for the sake of globalized diplomacy.

DECRYING the creation of the bureaucratic mandate system, the World Assembly Office of Building Management, introduced by GA Res. #8.

BELIEVING in the expectancy of etiquette, which is lacking in multiple facets of GA Res. #8, within the World Assembly.

UNDERLINING that the passage of GA Res. #8 was by a narrow vote of 4,918 to 4,499.

CONSIDERING the integrity of the resolution to be further compromised as the architect, Omigodtheykilledkenny, has since been condemned under Security Council Resolution #17 on the basis of corruption and defiance of General Assembly ordinance.

APPALLED that the ratification of GA Res. #8 has endured for nearly twelve years and must not stand from this moment further if the World Assembly is to remain a thoroughly respectable delegation.

DEMANDING that the existing World Assembly Headquarters, established by GA Res. #8, must be decommissioned immediately then eventually replaced with an incorruptible and honorable successor.

Approvals: 8 (Tinhampton, Kaystein, New Nationale Einheit, Ibenta, San Lumen, McMasterdonia, The Newest of Virginia, Marrabuk)

GenSec Status: LEGAL
Info
Status: Lacking Support (requires 63 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 22 hours

Legislating in repeal, referring to SC.
Some big names are approving this!
Edit: Is referring to voting numbers, which are technically related to the NS gameside (and regions), illegal or are the votes considered to happen in the same way in RP?


Also branding for mentioning a nation's name.
The same question for the votes might be asked for the '12 years'? Is IC time equal to OOC time?
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:26 am

The New Nordic Union wrote:
Merni wrote:
General Assembly Proposal
ID: the_silver_bloods_1582084633

Repeal: “World Assembly Headquarters”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal
Resolution: GA#8
Proposed by: The Silver Bloods
General Assembly Resolution #8 “World Assembly Headquarters” (Category: Political Stability; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The World Assembly,

ACKNOWLEDGING that the World Assembly fundamentally deserves an international headquarters for the sake of globalized diplomacy.

DECRYING the creation of the bureaucratic mandate system, the World Assembly Office of Building Management, introduced by GA Res. #8.

BELIEVING in the expectancy of etiquette, which is lacking in multiple facets of GA Res. #8, within the World Assembly.

UNDERLINING that the passage of GA Res. #8 was by a narrow vote of 4,918 to 4,499.

CONSIDERING the integrity of the resolution to be further compromised as the architect, Omigodtheykilledkenny, has since been condemned under Security Council Resolution #17 on the basis of corruption and defiance of General Assembly ordinance.

APPALLED that the ratification of GA Res. #8 has endured for nearly twelve years and must not stand from this moment further if the World Assembly is to remain a thoroughly respectable delegation.

DEMANDING that the existing World Assembly Headquarters, established by GA Res. #8, must be decommissioned immediately then eventually replaced with an incorruptible and honorable successor.

Approvals: 8 (Tinhampton, Kaystein, New Nationale Einheit, Ibenta, San Lumen, McMasterdonia, The Newest of Virginia, Marrabuk)

GenSec Status: LEGAL
Info
Status: Lacking Support (requires 63 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 22 hours

Legislating in repeal, referring to SC.
Some big names are approving this!
Edit: Is referring to voting numbers, which are technically related to the NS gameside (and regions), illegal or are the votes considered to happen in the same way in RP?

Also branding for mentioning a nation's name.
The same question for the votes might be asked for the '12 years'? Is IC time equal to OOC time?

i agree about the "legislating in a repeal" aspect ("Hoping" for a replacement would be okay, "Demanding" one is not...), and have already marked the proposal as illegal for this reason.
The mention of the SC by its name somehow slipped past my attention (Whether "condemned by the World Assembly" instead would be considered legal... H'mmm...). As it's legal to cite the targeted resolution then I personally am not too bothered by mention of its author in that specific context, but i suppose that technically that is[ an illegality. The voting numbers and length of time since it passed, I personally would let through, but I don't know whether the rest of GenSec would agree on this.

EDIT: I''ve expanded my explanation attached to the submitted version:
Repeals can ONLY Repeal. You could be HOPING for a replacement, but that "DEMANDING" clause crosses the line. Also, you can't mention the SC in GA proposals (which counts as Meta-gaming). Under current interpretation of the rules, even mentioning the target's authoring nation by name almost certainly falls under 'Branding'. And although I personally am not bothered by your inclusion of voting numbers, or the length of [RL] time since the target passed, I advise you that other GenSec members might disagree on these points. If you want to continue with this project then I suggest strongly that you take it to the GA forum for re-drafting & feedback.
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(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Our population is approximately 20 million. We do have a national government, although its role is strictly limited. Economy = thriving. Those aren't "biker gangs", they're our traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies'... and are generally respected, not feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
Author of issues #429, 712, 729, 934, 1120, 1152.

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