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Attempted Socialism
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Postby Attempted Socialism » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:57 am

I laughed at the hilarious double standards.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1562983343
The IQ Test

A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

Category: Political Stability

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Bruhlalalalaland

Ban the libtards.
-heightens IQ
-Ben Shapiro is happy
-Ben Shapiro is god
-Lowers Nudity
-Lowers Tax
-Grows Middle Class
-Booms the economy


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Postby Araraukar » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:52 am

Attempted Socialism wrote:I laughed at the hilarious double standards.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1562983343
The IQ Test

A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

Category: Political Stability

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Bruhlalalalaland

Ban the libtards.
-heightens IQ
-Ben Shapiro is happy
-Ben Shapiro is god
-Lowers Nudity
-Lowers Tax
-Grows Middle Class
-Booms the economy

And in other words category fail, reportable level insults, real world mentions, contradiction with NEF and format (not written as a law).
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:00 am

Araraukar wrote:
Attempted Socialism wrote:I laughed at the hilarious double standards.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1562983343

And in other words category fail, reportable level insults, real world mentions, contradiction with NEF and format (not written as a law).

It has been reported... and has been 'discarded', rather than just marked illegal, which means that it remains filed behind the scenes but the author can't withdraw it before the Mods get a chance to act.
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Postby The New Nordic Union » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:49 am

General Assembly Proposal
ID: united_civil_republic_1563159551

Repeal: “Military Freedom Act”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#132

Proposed by: United Civil Republic

General Assembly Resolution #132 “Military Freedom Act” (Category: Furtherment of Democracy; Strength: Significant) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

This repeal finds Article 3, 1 and 2 in direct contradiction of Article 3, 5, as well as a direct violation of NatSov. This NatSov violation is believe derived from a nations potential personal culture of requiring all citizens to serve in combative military duties.


Honest mistake (no contradiction, since 'no combative military role' and 'compulsory military service' are not mutually exclusive); and a good amount of NatSov thrown in there (and named such)
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Postby Bears Armed » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:09 am

The New Nordic Union wrote:
General Assembly Proposal
ID: united_civil_republic_1563159551

Repeal: “Military Freedom Act”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#132

Proposed by: United Civil Republic

General Assembly Resolution #132 “Military Freedom Act” (Category: Furtherment of Democracy; Strength: Significant) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

This repeal finds Article 3, 1 and 2 in direct contradiction of Article 3, 5, as well as a direct violation of NatSov. This NatSov violation is believe derived from a nations potential personal culture of requiring all citizens to serve in combative military duties.


Honest mistake (no contradiction, since 'no combative military role' and 'compulsory military service' are not mutually exclusive); and a good amount of NatSov thrown in there (and named such)

Agreed.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:29 pm

Repeal: “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#467

Proposed by: Secular Germania

General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

"Transgender" is not a real thing that can occur. One cannot choose or change their sexual identity. You are either born with XY chromosomes (male) or XX chromosomes (female). It is that simple and there is no middle ground. A person that claims to be "transgender" or "nonbinary" is simply confused.

Well you guys caught this one already as Honest Mistake violation so I'mma just drop this here for book-keeping.

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Postby The New Nordic Union » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:00 pm

General Assembly Proposal
ID: royal_bulgaria_1563317676

Repeal: “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#467

Proposed by: Royal Bulgaria

General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

In response to the recently legislated resolution "Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy" some points as to why this resolution should be immediately repealed are presented to the World Assembly member-nations:

I. It demands that all World Assembly member-nations have as written:" easy-to-access way for its transgender population to access hormone therapy" without any regard of the financial state some World Assembly members may be in. In order for the nations to carry into effect this resolution, they must set aside from their national fund or increase taxes on their citizens so that the required facilities are built, the requested medications are bought and professionals in this sphere are recruited, trained or sent for specialization. These actions will, in no doubt, prove very costly to some nations.

II. The proposed as fact №3 statement: "Their first-hand accounts of this understanding are real; each person is in the best position to understand and discern their own gender identity." cannot be accepted as one as there are many cases of people with autism, schizophrenia or dissociative identity disorder (which are undeniably classified as mental illnesses), who under the impact of their illness identify themselves as a member of the opposite sex or something in-between and demand that their bodies be altered . The proposed and accepted resolution will force medical persons to perform a hormone therapy on patients, who have not made this choice of their own sanity. And the fact alone that they identify themselves as transgender people will be enough to tie the hands of both medical specialists and jurists because of this resolution, which so formulated, allows it.

III. This resolution does not take into account the various cultures, religions and scientific development of all the World Assembly member-nations. It demands that all nations recognize transgender people as sain or existing, which may contradict their official religion, to which
98% of the populace may belong. Furthermore enforcing the legislation of such a resolution can be seen as a threat to the national sovereignty of certain nations as it will also force governments to change the laws, which govern such cases. This may result in protests and riots from citizens, who feel betrayed because the government they have democratically chosen, accepts laws controversial to the ideals it was chosen to represent and defend.

IV. The required laws cannot be enforced if the judiciary of a certain state deems them unconstitutional, thus making the legislation of this resolution both impractical and impossible without violating the law of a certain nation.


Honest mistake (Section I, the resolution does not say anything about taxes or budgets; section II, consent is actually required via the resolution, incapable people cannot consent and therefore no medical personnel will perform hormone therapy on them); everything else is NatSov/RelSov
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Postby The New Nordic Union » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:02 pm

General Assembly Proposal
ID: united_civil_republic_1563338634

Repeal: “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#467

Proposed by: United Civil Republic

General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Recognizing the Purpose of General Assembly Resolution # 467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy", as the formation of a gender equality resolution,

Notes the duplications in this resolution:

"Requires all member-states to legalize hormone therapy for all consenting individuals," is duplication of World Assembly Resolution #91, A Convention on Gender "3) No nation can prohibit GAPs to intersex, transgender or intergender persons; nor can they be prohibited to travel to other nations for the sole reason of seeking GAPs in said nations; nor can return be denied for the sole reason of having had GAPs;"

The World Assembly Resolution #91, A Convention on Gender also stipulates what can be interpreted as " an affordable, easy-to-access way for its transgender population to access hormone therapy," in 7a, b, and c.

Stating such as facts, further legislation on other parts of this resolution should be attempted.


(Assumed) Illegality is no base for repeal; no other arguments
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Postby East Meranopirus » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:29 am

And another poorly attempted repeal:
General Assembly Proposal
ID: kurha_1563341606

Repeal: “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#467

Proposed by: Kurha

General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

We request a repeal of the aforementioned resolution on the grounds of its flaws. While there is some virtue on the proposal itself, in its current form it is not functional and would require both an increase in taxes and authoritarian measures.

Its axioms also present contradictions and inconsistencies.

1.It is neither practical, nor possible to recognize gender identity as real since it is subjective in nature. It can not be measured or observed by an outsider in an obvious nature.
2. Considering it is not interpreted as a mental illness, then it remains a personal idiosyncratic element which is not based on biology. Otherwise it would require an origin in neural pathways and as such be held as a neurological anomaly.

3. Personal accounts may be flawed or not based on reality. It is not possible to determine facts solely on the personal, subjective statement of a person. Stating their experience does not validate it.

4. Recognizing it as gender dysphoria, a mental condition which might require treatment, would make it a mental illness. Therefore invalidating previous axioms.

5. Subjective statements are not facts.

6. The sixth axiom has a sole flaw. The state should have no interference in the required treatment, that is true. However as such the state has no obligation to provide it.

The sole elements in the proposal which could be acceptable are those which prevent the government from interfering directly in such treatment. That is of course if we do not take into account the specific needs and stances of each nation.
Needs and stances which were not taken into account in the aforementioned resolution and which might conflict with it.

Branding (use of "we"); Honest mistake (it doesn't require an increase in "authoritarian measures") Also, it either only addresses the preamble, or only uses NatSov arguments against the actual operative clauses. Not sure if only addressing the preamble is legal or not.
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Postby Bananaistan » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:01 am

East Meranopirus wrote:And another poorly attempted repeal:
General Assembly Proposal
ID: kurha_1563341606

Repeal: “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#467

Proposed by: Kurha

General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

We request a repeal of the aforementioned resolution on the grounds of its flaws. While there is some virtue on the proposal itself, in its current form it is not functional and would require both an increase in taxes and authoritarian measures.

Its axioms also present contradictions and inconsistencies.

1.It is neither practical, nor possible to recognize gender identity as real since it is subjective in nature. It can not be measured or observed by an outsider in an obvious nature.
2. Considering it is not interpreted as a mental illness, then it remains a personal idiosyncratic element which is not based on biology. Otherwise it would require an origin in neural pathways and as such be held as a neurological anomaly.

3. Personal accounts may be flawed or not based on reality. It is not possible to determine facts solely on the personal, subjective statement of a person. Stating their experience does not validate it.

4. Recognizing it as gender dysphoria, a mental condition which might require treatment, would make it a mental illness. Therefore invalidating previous axioms.

5. Subjective statements are not facts.

6. The sixth axiom has a sole flaw. The state should have no interference in the required treatment, that is true. However as such the state has no obligation to provide it.

The sole elements in the proposal which could be acceptable are those which prevent the government from interfering directly in such treatment. That is of course if we do not take into account the specific needs and stances of each nation.
Needs and stances which were not taken into account in the aforementioned resolution and which might conflict with it.

Branding (use of "we"); Honest mistake (it doesn't require an increase in "authoritarian measures") Also, it either only addresses the preamble, or only uses NatSov arguments against the actual operative clauses. Not sure if only addressing the preamble is legal or not.


I took it that we in this instance could be referring to the we as the world assembly, the increase in taxes and authoritarian measures is hard to judge but could be allowable embellishments and exaggeration. NatSov arguments are allowed so long as they're not the only arguments. The remainder are assertions which I won't fact check and would let the voters decide.

Aside from this all the other submitted repeals appear to be illegal to me.
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Postby East Meranopirus » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:05 am

Bananaistan wrote:I took it that we in this instance could be referring to the we as the world assembly, the increase in taxes and authoritarian measures is hard to judge but could be allowable embellishments and exaggeration. NatSov arguments are allowed so long as they're not the only arguments. The remainder are assertions which I won't fact check and would let the voters decide.

Aside from this all the other submitted repeals appear to be illegal to me.

To clarify, is a repeal allowed to only address the preamble?
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Postby Bananaistan » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:20 am

East Meranopirus wrote:
Bananaistan wrote:I took it that we in this instance could be referring to the we as the world assembly, the increase in taxes and authoritarian measures is hard to judge but could be allowable embellishments and exaggeration. NatSov arguments are allowed so long as they're not the only arguments. The remainder are assertions which I won't fact check and would let the voters decide.

Aside from this all the other submitted repeals appear to be illegal to me.

To clarify, is a repeal allowed to only address the preamble?


Well a preamble is part of a resolution so a repeal addressing only the preamble would be within the scope of the honest mistake rule which states that repeals must address the content of the target, and it has never been a requirement that a repeal must rebut the entirety of the target.

In most circumstances I'd imagine a repeal solely addressing the preamble would be rather weak. This case is rather different because of the meaty content of the preamble.
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:29 am

Bananaistan wrote:Aside from this all the other submitted repeals appear to be illegal to me.

All it does is complain that the target is in compliance with #91, and then NatSov. How can that be considered legal? It doesn't address the target resolution's own clauses (ones not specifically stating compliance with #91) at all.
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Postby Bananaistan » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:33 am

Araraukar wrote:
Bananaistan wrote:Aside from this all the other submitted repeals appear to be illegal to me.

All it does is complain that the target is in compliance with #91, and then NatSov. How can that be considered legal? It doesn't address the target resolution's own clauses (ones not specifically stating compliance with #91) at all.


Eh, are we talking about the same repeal by "Kurha"? I don't see any reference to GAR#91 or even a vague "existing international law" and the only NatSov-ish clause is the dodgy "we" clause,
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Postby East Meranopirus » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:33 am

Bananaistan wrote:I took it that we in this instance could be referring to the we as the world assembly, the increase in taxes and authoritarian measures is hard to judge but could be allowable embellishments and exaggeration. NatSov arguments are allowed so long as they're not the only arguments. The remainder are assertions which I won't fact check and would let the voters decide.

Aside from this all the other submitted repeals appear to be illegal to me.

I had another look at the use of "we", and its context is "we request", which seems to me like it's made on behalf of the nation instead of the WA, because in the case of the WA it should say something like "we must/shall/will repeal"
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:41 am

Bananaistan wrote:[Eh, are we talking about the same repeal by "Kurha"? I don't see any reference to GAR#91 or even a vague "existing international law" and the only NatSov-ish clause is the dodgy "we" clause,

#91 establishes that being transgender cannot be considered to be a mental illness. Kurha's clauses 1-4 are rants about that fact. Clause 5 is random filler philosophy. Clause 6 states compliance with #91 (state not allowed to interfere/punish transgender treatments) and uses that as an excuse to say states shouldn't provide it. Is that what you're basing the legality on? How does that address the target at all? Because the rest is pretty much pure NatSov.
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Postby The New Nordic Union » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:12 am

General Assembly Proposal
ID: the_theocracy_of_cthulhu_1563386229

Repeal: “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#467

Proposed by: The Theocracy of Cthulhu

General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

1. It is a proven fact that people who consider themselves to be of the opposite sex/gender than they were born with have a mental condition, called Gender Dysphoria. Therefore, we should not provide hormone therapy to these people, but with mental help to get them through this extremely difficult time in their lives.
2. If this resolution is not repealed, then it is likely that people will go too far and proclaim their gender/identity as , for example, an animal, however ridiculous that may seem.
3. We need to focus on mental help for these people and get to the root of why they believe that they are a man in a women's body, and vise versa.
4. And what if there are people who say they are a man, but they just want to go into the mens bathroom for more sinister reasons.
5. A man is a man and a women is a women by biology, and they cannot pretend differently, however cruel it may seem. You cannot change biology.
6. You cannot be bullied for being transgender if you are not transgender.
7. Finally, this may seem very anti-civil rights, anti-choice, and anti-freedom, but Gender Dysphoria is a mental condition, so let's get these people some help through therapy rather than encouraging this "role play." These people are in pain and they need our help, so let's give it to them rather then they make impulsive choices that will have a negative impact on them forever.


Honest mistake (Nothing in the resolution suggests that 2. could become reality; the target actually does what 3 wants; 4 does not adress the target)
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Postby The New Nordic Union » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:13 am

General Assembly Proposal
ID: nordicrome_1563386789

Repeal: “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#467

Proposed by: NORDICROME

General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

KEEP DESTROYING THE MORAL FABRIC OF SOCIETY ? WE NEED A REVOLUTION OF REAL MEN NOT WEAK LITTLE SOY BOYS.


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Postby Morover » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:14 am

Repeal: "Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy"
General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

1. It is a proven fact that people who consider themselves to be of the opposite sex/gender than they were born with have a mental condition, called Gender Dysphoria. Therefore, we should not provide hormone therapy to these people, but with mental help to get them through this extremely difficult time in their lives.
2. If this resolution is not repealed, then it is likely that people will go too far and proclaim their gender/identity as , for example, an animal, however ridiculous that may seem.
3. We need to focus on mental help for these people and get to the root of why they believe that they are a man in a women's body, and vise versa.
4. And what if there are people who say they are a man, but they just want to go into the mens bathroom for more sinister reasons.
5. A man is a man and a women is a women by biology, and they cannot pretend differently, however cruel it may seem. You cannot change biology.
6. You cannot be bullied for being transgender if you are not transgender.
7. Finally, this may seem very anti-civil rights, anti-choice, and anti-freedom, but Gender Dysphoria is a mental condition, so let's get these people some help through therapy rather than encouraging this "role play." These people are in pain and they need our help, so let's give it to them rather then they make impulsive choices that will have a negative impact on them forever.

Honest Mistake (The resolution doesn't cater to those who claim they are a different species), Doesn't address actual text of proposal.

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Repeal: "Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy"
KEEP DESTROYING THE MORAL FABRIC OF SOCIETY ? WE NEED A REVOLUTION OF REAL MEN NOT WEAK LITTLE SOY BOYS.

Honest Mistake (I am not a little soy boy, I am a large soy boy).


EDIT: I got ninja'd for both of these ):
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Postby Newland City » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:11 pm


Repeal: “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#467

Proposed by: Naschrakh

General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

I repeal this resolution because there are no such people in my nation. Bugger off. Go pester your mom.


https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1563400097

Well okay then.
I mean, c'mon. There's already a nice, legal proposal to repeal. Why do you need to spam up the queue with bad ones?

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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:33 pm

Newland City wrote:
Repeal: “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy”

Category: Repeal
Resolution: GA#467
Proposed by: Naschrakh

General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

I repeal this resolution because there are no such people in my nation. Bugger off. Go pester your mom.

Well okay then.

Illegal for Branding, by the way.

There's already a nice, legal proposal to repeal.

Haven't yet seen one that didn't intentionally misrepresent the target, actually.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:58 pm

9 illegal repeals in this thread alone. Not bad!
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:04 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:9 illegal repeals in this thread alone. Not bad!

In one day, at that. I wonder if that's a new record...

Repeal: “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy”

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#467

Proposed by: Cellaronia

General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

This Honorable General Assembly,

UNDERSTANDING the reasoning behind the passing of General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy”,

REALIZING the following points:
1. That the aforementioned legislation contradicts the ideological and religious beliefs that govern many member-states
2. That the enforcement of this legislation would force many member-states to violate such beliefs,
3. That forcing member-states to obey this legislation, even if it contradicts their beliefs, is a violation against Religious Liberty,

HEREBY repeals General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy”.

10th. I'd say Honest Mistake as the target doesn't actually do anything to religious beliefs.
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Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
Araraukar wrote:
Blueflarst wrote:a cosmopolitan hammer
United Massachusetts wrote:Can we all call ourselves "cosmopolitan hammers"?
Us cosmopolitan hammers
Can teach some manners
Often sorely lacking
Hence us attacking
Silly GA spammers

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Postby Morover » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:44 am

Upholding Refugee's Rights
xThe World Assembly,
Recognizing that half of all refugees are children, and that these children are vulnerable to neglect, abuse, exploitation, and other forms of violence;

Hereby,

  1. Defines the following for the purpose of this resolution:

    • A "refugee" as any person fleeing a nation due to political instability, economic instability, persecution, or fear for their life.
  2. Mandates that:

    • All nation states uphold the right of asylum for refugees
    • All nation states give refugees access to welfare programs, affordable housing, and tuition free public education
    • All nation states pass legistation that protects refugees from workplace discrimination
    • All nation states have an easily accessable process to become a citizen
  3. Prohibits:

    • All nation states from deporting refugees

Duplication of GAR#57.

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Postby Araraukar » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:57 am

Morover wrote:Upholding Refugee's Rights
xThe World Assembly,
Recognizing that half of all refugees are children, and that these children are vulnerable to neglect, abuse, exploitation, and other forms of violence;

Hereby,

  1. Defines the following for the purpose of this resolution:

    • A "refugee" as any person fleeing a nation due to political instability, economic instability, persecution, or fear for their life.
  2. Mandates that:

    • All nation states uphold the right of asylum for refugees
    • All nation states give refugees access to welfare programs, affordable housing, and tuition free public education
    • All nation states pass legistation that protects refugees from workplace discrimination
    • All nation states have an easily accessable process to become a citizen
  3. Prohibits:

    • All nation states from deporting refugees

Duplication of GAR#57.

Also trying to legislate for all nations, not just WA nations, and I think it contradicts too, because if I remember correctly, no nation has to let refugees become permanent inhabitants.
- Linda Äyrämäki, acting ambassador in the absence of miss Leveret
Araraukar's RP reality is Modern Tech solarpunk.

Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
Araraukar wrote:
Blueflarst wrote:a cosmopolitan hammer
United Massachusetts wrote:Can we all call ourselves "cosmopolitan hammers"?
Us cosmopolitan hammers
Can teach some manners
Often sorely lacking
Hence us attacking
Silly GA spammers

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