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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:12 pm

VI: A refugee from a country you're at warwith must be accepted. There can be no exceptions

This is especially amusing, and certainly wouldn’t ever be abused.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:40 pm

Resolution To Do Away With Unnecessary Names

A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.

Category: Moral Decency

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Kakastania

Recognizing the diversity of NationStates,
Amazed at the creativity of this world,
Annoyed at the utter indeciency of some names and messages
Hereby Proposes this Resolution

If this Resolution is passed, the below will come into effect.

1. Any names (country names, mottos, etc.) that include excessive letters or punctuation, (OooooooooooOh Yeah, But???????, Etc.) shall be banned.
2. Any names (same usage as above) that include dank words such as but no limited to "derp", "trollol", etc. or any similar form shall be banned.
3. If any message lodged in any the forum contains excessive punctuation or letters, that message will be deleted.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:16 pm

Death Sentence Legal?

A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: DarkenErmine

sorry could not find right category
The Constitution Allows For The Application Of The Death Penalty
- There were, most notably in the 1960s, several attempts made to declare the use of the death penalty unconstitutional based on the fact that it was ‘ cruel and unusual’ and therefore contrary to the Eighth Amendment. The 1958 Supreme Court case of Trop V Dulles while not a death penalty case interpreted the Eighth Amendment as containing an
‘evolving standard of decency that marked the progress of a maturing society’. This statement was used as a basis for the abolitionist campaign
The Death Penalty Allows The State To Exact Appropriate Retribution, Criminals Must Face The Consequences Of Their Actions
-We are taught (or at least we should be) from our earliest years that actions have consequences. Touching a hot stove burns your hand, annoying your parent causes them to punish you etc. Every parent knows that failing to link actions to consequences leads to children who do what they want when they want. The same holds true for adults. We pay our taxes because we don’t want to face the consequences of not doing so. Consequences bring order to our society. The same holds true for violent and dangerous crimes, where someone acts in such a way as to take the life of another they have to be punished, they have to expect retribution, they have to pay the price of their actions and it should be in equal measure.

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Postby Jebslund » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:24 am

Ley Universal del libre uso de Internet

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Visigodoromano

A los muy honorables damas y caballeros de esta asamblea se les presenta por parte de El Imperio Visigodoromano y muy especialmente de su Augusto y Catolico Emperador, señor de los 10000 años y heredero al trono del Dragón la siguiente oportunidad de mejorar los derechos civiles en todo el Mundo.

La conexión a Internet descubierta hace más de 50 años a permitido al mundo un avanze nunca antes realizado en ningún momentos de la historia universal.

La facilidad de comunicación entre personas de ambos hemisferios, de envío de datos e información y la libertad que transmite este medio gracias a las distintas empresas del entretenimiento, animación y medios de comunicación y todo tipo de páginas web que se pueden crear en él hace que para las personas de hoy en día sea imprescindible esta herramienta para su vida y su desarrollo dentro de una sociedad.

Es imprescindible para el progreso de la humanidad el libre acceso a esta herramienta para el progreso de los distintos pueblos que integran esta asamblea mundial.

No se exige a los gobiernos la eliminación de sus grandes cortafuegos y barreras de censura pues muchas de ellas son buenas para la seguridad de la población de muchos de los estados. Pero el derecho a acceder a esta herramienta por muy restringido que esté el contenido hará que los pueblos avanzen en sus derechos civiles.

Universal Law of the free use of the Internet

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Visigodoromano

The very honorable ladies and gentlemen of this assembly are presented by The Visigothorian Empire and most especially by their Augustus and Catholic Emperor, Lord of 10,000 years and heir to the throne of the Dragon the next opportunity to improve civil rights in all the world.

The Internet connection discovered more than 50 years ago has allowed the world an advance never made before at any time in world history.

The ease of communication between people of both hemispheres, of sending data and information and the freedom that this means transmits thanks to the different entertainment, animation and media companies and all kinds of web pages that can be created in it. For today's people this tool is essential for their life and development within a society.

It is essential for the progress of humanity to have free access to this tool for the progress of the different peoples that make up this world assembly.

Governments are not required to eliminate their large firewalls and censorship barriers, as many of them are good for the security of the population of many of the states. But the right to access this tool, however restricted the content, will make the people advance in their civil rights.

Understandable English, Branding, Proposal Formatting, Duplication of Existing Legislation (or would be, if not for...), No Operative Clause, Arguable real-life references ("...discovered more than 50 years ago", "...people of both hemispheres").
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:47 am

Jebslund wrote:
Ley Universal del libre uso de Internet

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Visigodoromano

A los muy honorables damas y caballeros de esta asamblea se les presenta por parte de El Imperio Visigodoromano y muy especialmente de su Augusto y Catolico Emperador, señor de los 10000 años y heredero al trono del Dragón la siguiente oportunidad de mejorar los derechos civiles en todo el Mundo.

La conexión a Internet descubierta hace más de 50 años a permitido al mundo un avanze nunca antes realizado en ningún momentos de la historia universal.

La facilidad de comunicación entre personas de ambos hemisferios, de envío de datos e información y la libertad que transmite este medio gracias a las distintas empresas del entretenimiento, animación y medios de comunicación y todo tipo de páginas web que se pueden crear en él hace que para las personas de hoy en día sea imprescindible esta herramienta para su vida y su desarrollo dentro de una sociedad.

Es imprescindible para el progreso de la humanidad el libre acceso a esta herramienta para el progreso de los distintos pueblos que integran esta asamblea mundial.

No se exige a los gobiernos la eliminación de sus grandes cortafuegos y barreras de censura pues muchas de ellas son buenas para la seguridad de la población de muchos de los estados. Pero el derecho a acceder a esta herramienta por muy restringido que esté el contenido hará que los pueblos avanzen en sus derechos civiles.

Universal Law of the free use of the Internet

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Visigodoromano

The very honorable ladies and gentlemen of this assembly are presented by The Visigothorian Empire and most especially by their Augustus and Catholic Emperor, Lord of 10,000 years and heir to the throne of the Dragon the next opportunity to improve civil rights in all the world.

The Internet connection discovered more than 50 years ago has allowed the world an advance never made before at any time in world history.

The ease of communication between people of both hemispheres, of sending data and information and the freedom that this means transmits thanks to the different entertainment, animation and media companies and all kinds of web pages that can be created in it. For today's people this tool is essential for their life and development within a society.

It is essential for the progress of humanity to have free access to this tool for the progress of the different peoples that make up this world assembly.

Governments are not required to eliminate their large firewalls and censorship barriers, as many of them are good for the security of the population of many of the states. But the right to access this tool, however restricted the content, will make the people advance in their civil rights.

Understandable English, Branding, Proposal Formatting, Duplication of Existing Legislation (or would be, if not for...), No Operative Clause, Arguable real-life references ("...discovered more than 50 years ago", "...people of both hemispheres").

For that last point, I said "either RL Reference or Meta-gaming (depending on whether the date given for the internet's invention is meant to refer to RL or to events inside NationStates)."
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:12 pm

On International Police Cooperation

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Arabic Khemed

The World Assembly,

Aware of the harmful effects of crime in general

Concerned about the far-reaching implications of trans-national crime

Particularly concerned about the lack of cooperation between the law enforcement agencies of member nations leading to a proliferation of trans-national crime.

HEREBY:

1) Defines trans-national crime as a crime that involves two or more nations, including(but not limited to),

a) International smuggling syndicates
b) Suspects fleeing overseas to avoid prosecution
c) Kidnapping overseas

2) Establishes the World Assembly International Policing Organisation(WAIPO)

3) Tasks WAIPO with:

a) Facilitating cooperation between the law enforcement agencies of various WA Member nations
b) Facilitating the extradition of criminals

4) Allows member nations the option not to cooperate with WAIPO if there is ample evidence that the suspect will not receive a fair trial or will be persecuted once extradited.

5) Defines persecution as unjust punishment for reasons such as:

a) Race
b) Sexuality
c) Religion
d) Political beliefs
e) Gender

Not sure if this counts as WA Police, but since it seems to be primarily on extradition, that is already covered by #147 Extradition Rights

Repeal: “Greenhouse Gas Cap And Trade Program ”

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#445

Proposed by: The Vetro Islands

General Assembly Resolution #445 “Greenhouse Gas Cap and Trade Program ” (Category: Environmental; Industry Affected: All Businesses - Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

World Assembly. A recent program submitted by the nation Ransium, has recently made it onto the WA floor, and was passed into law. But, that bill was unnecessary in more than one way. For starters, the mentioned green-house gasses, have no current hold on world weather. In fact, the affects are so minuscule they've been only noticed recently, although the green house effect has been happening for around two hundred years. So begs the question, how many more years until the next discovery? Three hundred? Four? We're already feeling the negative affects of this bill. The auto and power industry are being forced to hold back on their production due to this bill, and economies of countries just starting out are not faring well. I propose a complete repeal of the Greenhouse Gas Cap and Trade Program. Although I offer no alternative, I'm sure that the nations of this beautiful world will decide on a new piece of legislation that I cannot even begin to imagine.
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World Industries Development Convention

A resolution to develop industry around the world.

Category: Advancement of Industry

Area of Effect: Commercial Enterprise

Proposed by: Korahar

To improve our industries and our commercials subjects in the assembly.

Quite literally does nothing
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:02 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
On International Police Cooperation
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Arabic Khemed

The World Assembly,

Aware of the harmful effects of crime in general

Concerned about the far-reaching implications of trans-national crime

Particularly concerned about the lack of cooperation between the law enforcement agencies of member nations leading to a proliferation of trans-national crime.

HEREBY:

1) Defines trans-national crime as a crime that involves two or more nations, including(but not limited to),

a) International smuggling syndicates
b) Suspects fleeing overseas to avoid prosecution
c) Kidnapping overseas

2) Establishes the World Assembly International Policing Organisation(WAIPO)

3) Tasks WAIPO with:

a) Facilitating cooperation between the law enforcement agencies of various WA Member nations
b) Facilitating the extradition of criminals

4) Allows member nations the option not to cooperate with WAIPO if there is ample evidence that the suspect will not receive a fair trial or will be persecuted once extradited.

5) Defines persecution as unjust punishment for reasons such as:

a) Race
b) Sexuality
c) Religion
d) Political beliefs
e) Gender

Not sure if this counts as WA Police, but since it seems to be primarily on extradition, that is already covered by #147 Extradition Rights

The current rules don't forbid 'WA Police', they forbid -- via GAR #2 -- WA involvement in "police actions": From the context in which the term appears there, I'm inclined to interpret it in its other RL sense -- as meaning military actions against non-State actors, basically -- instead. I was out-voted on this on the last time that this question arose in a challenge, but I'm not going to mark the proposal as illegal on that basis. However, even ignoring that question, it needs to tell the member nations what to do -- rather than just tell them when they don't have to cooperate -- and even then there's probably only enough content for 'Mild' strength.
The idea has potential, though: I'm going to send its author a suggestion that they either bring it to this forum or take it elsewhere for for help with drafting a better version,,,


Grays Harbor wrote:
World Industries Development Convention
[spoiler]A resolution to develop industry around the world.

Category: Advancement of Industry

Area of Effect: Commercial Enterprise

Proposed by: Korahar

To improve our industries and our commercials subjects in the assembly.

Quite literally does nothing

They submitted it it once.
It was declared illegal, and discarded.
Twelve hours later, they submitted it again.
>:(

Edit: Actually, looking again, they did make one change for the better between versions... The original version said "in all world" rather than just "in the assembly".
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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:49 am

Reasons for illegality given in the copy-&-pasted material here:

Stop Protecting Endangered Species
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: All Businesses - Strong
Proposed by: Kastonets

Recognising
● Darwin' s evolution theory as true.
● That only the species that adact to the envroinment survive.
● That Nature rewards species that adact better that others to the environment.

Defining
As "endangered" species that have been categorized as very likely to become extinct.

Prohibits
Members of World Assembly to offer protection to endangered species or to advantage them in any way.
Exeption made for
● Species that product goods helpful for the Humans (ex bees [that produce honey], cows [that produce milk] etc etc...).
● Species exploited from the human to produce goods (ex cows, lambs, fish etc etc).

Approvals: 0

GenSec Status: ILLEGAL — HELD
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Illegal (1): Bears Armed
• Seconds ago: Bears Armed: Illegal — Category incorrect ('Environmental' proposals have to HELP the environment); RL Reference ("Darwin"); Contradiction of several existing GA resolutions, which would need to be repealed (one-by-one) before this could even possibly be made legal.

Status: Lacking Support (requires 83 more approvals)
Voting Ends: in 3 days
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Postby Wrapper » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:55 pm

Repeal attempt #31:

General Assembly Proposal
ID: free_quebec_1539651115

Repeal: “Ban On Ritual Sacrifice”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#416

Proposed by: Free Quebec

General Assembly Resolution #416 “Ban on Ritual Sacrifice” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The World Assembly:

Whereas rituals sacrifices of human beings still have to be banished as they do not respect individual rights and freedoms;

Considering the cultural, religious and social reality of certain peoples and first nations deserve that we grant a right to practice the ritual sacrifice of certains animals considering the importance of practicing the traditional values ​​and so that these traditions can continue to be transmitted from generation to generation in order to preserve its cultural and historical value within these nations;

Hereby:

A. The ritual sacrifice against human beings remain illegal and banned;
B. The ritual sacrifice of animals must be allowed according to the following regulations;

1. The ritual sacrifice must be done in respect of these animals, as it is in the writings and values ​​of the majority of these nations;
2. The animal must not suffer;
3. Animals protected by a protection treaty or has local, provincial and / or national law of the same type must not be subjected to one of these rituals sacrifices
4. Animal meat must be consumed and not wasted.

Otherwise criminal measures may be taken against the individuals concerned by these crimes.

Legislating in a repeal, NatSov only argument.

EDIT: Withdrawn and resubmitted (attempt #32) without the unicode characters. Still illegal. Forgot Honest Mistake too (resolution does not prohibit animal sacrifice).
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Crack Down On Crime, Save Lives And Time!
A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

Category: Political Stability

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Alamka

There is much crime around the worlds we live in, and I believe more nations should take my view, where we need to strengthen our police force and military. There are raids and terrorists everywhere... An authoritarian world would really help all of us, and would reduce crime a lot. This is short and is my first proposal, and I hope you guys can support me in my plan to make my world a safer, more equal place to live. Everyone deserves a roof over their head, and a strong leader ready to take the public's interest. Investing in the Military and Law and Order is, in my opinion, one of the greatest ideas. It could also help us trade our arms and strengthen our economies. I wish that we can all help each other reach a safe, and strengthened world.

Branding, blogging and does nothing/no operative clause.




General Assembly Proposal
ID: eraver_1540011297

We Need Healthcare To Make People Healthy
A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.

Category: Health

Area of Effect: Healthcare

Proposed by: Eraver

1. Apples are great healthy food that makes people healthy and people are getting flu shots.
2. Bananas are healthy that makes you got healthcare
3. Cancer researching and so people makes cure of the cancer.
4. Public healthcare is so good that people needs wash your hands.
5. Terms of use of the healthcare is so great and labor camps is unhealthy.

Blogging? does nothing.



Freedom Of Religion Laws
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Eraver

Here's the laws of freedom of religion:
1. Ban communists from ruining religion.
2. Social religion have right to pray the gods.
3. Knowing the religions like islam, orthodox, catholic and more, have prays.
4. The religion gods make sure that praying himself and sitting in chair when watching the church prays.
5. Atheists can't pray the gods because atheists do everything except praying.
6. The long religion scale have from high catholicism to low atheism.
7. If you're communist, you can't pray the gods ever.


Understandable English? Also if atheist simply refers to the lack of belief in a deity, could 5 pose an issue (when referring to religions without a deity)? 5 also seems to mandate that deities (likely not W.A. members) do something.
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:55 am

Arasi Luvasa wrote:
Freedom Of Religion Laws
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Eraver

Here's the laws of freedom of religion:
1. Ban communists from ruining religion.
2. Social religion have right to pray the gods.
3. Knowing the religions like islam, orthodox, catholic and more, have prays.
4. The religion gods make sure that praying himself and sitting in chair when watching the church prays.
5. Atheists can't pray the gods because atheists do everything except praying.
6. The long religion scale have from high catholicism to low atheism.
7. If you're communist, you can't pray the gods ever.

Understandable English? Also if atheist simply refers to the lack of belief in a deity, could 5 pose an issue (when referring to religions without a deity)? 5 also seems to mandate that deities (likely not W.A. members) do something.

...I'm more intrigued by clause 4... :lol2:

Also, singling out communists to me smells like contradiction with various things... I'd call it a joke proposal if I wasn't unfortunately quite sure the author is quite serious with it. (Though no idea what they got against religious communists.)
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Postby Arasi Luvasa » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:35 am

Araraukar wrote:
Arasi Luvasa wrote:Understandable English? Also if atheist simply refers to the lack of belief in a deity, could 5 pose an issue (when referring to religions without a deity)? 5 also seems to mandate that deities (likely not W.A. members) do something.

...I'm more intrigued by clause 4... :lol2:

Also, singling out communists to me smells like contradiction with various things... I'd call it a joke proposal if I wasn't unfortunately quite sure the author is quite serious with it. (Though no idea what they got against religious communists.)

I am also intrigued by clause 4, is this mandating how a god behaves? would that even be legal? as I assume deities aren't members of the WA.

Also, one of the illegal proposals is tagged as such for "Megagaming". Just thought I would point that out.
Crack Down On Crime, Save Lives And Time!
A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

Category: Political Stability

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Alamka

There is much crime around the worlds we live in, and I believe more nations should take my view, where we need to strengthen our police force and military. There are raids and terrorists everywhere... An authoritarian world would really help all of us, and would reduce crime a lot. This is short and is my first proposal, and I hope you guys can support me in my plan to make my world a safer, more equal place to live. Everyone deserves a roof over their head, and a strong leader ready to take the public's interest. Investing in the Military and Law and Order is, in my opinion, one of the greatest ideas. It could also help us trade our arms and strengthen our economies. I wish that we can all help each other reach a safe, and strengthened world.

Approvals: 4 (Alamka, New Excalibus, The Anarchic fascist republic of an isle, The holy red panda)

GenSec Status: ILLEGAL — HELD
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Illegal (5): Separatist Peoples, Bananaistan, Bears Armed, Sciongrad, Sierra Lyricalia

1 day 23 hours ago: Sierra Lyricalia: Illegal — As detailed below
2 days 4 hours ago: Sciongrad: Illegal — Proposal basics (Proposals must be written as laws) Megagaming (proposals cannot reference the game as if it is a game, and referencing nation statistics counts) Branding ("I")
2 days 5 hours ago: Bears Armed: Illegal — Proposal basics (Proposals must be written as laws); Branding ("I").
2 days 12 hours ago: Bananaistan: Illegal — Proposal basics (Proposals must be written as laws) Megagaming (proposals cannot reference the game as if it is a game, and referencing nation statistics counts) Branding ("I")
2 days 19 hours ago: Separatist Peoples: Illegal — Proposal basics (Proposals must be written as laws) Megagaming (proposals cannot reference the game as if it is a game, and referencing nation statistics counts) Branding ("I")




General Assembly Proposal
ID: heaven_fire_1540237773

PROHIBITING FREE ENERGY LAW
A resolution to enact uniform standards that protect workers, consumers, and the general public.

Category: Regulation

Area of Effect: Energy

Proposed by: Heaven Fire

There has been a growing trend of concerns regarding the promise of "Free Energy". Such energy does not exist. Every man-made device, especially electrical inventions, will always require a main fuelenergy source. There is no "getting around" this fact. Just as the world was promised "freedom" within their enslaved lives, this relatively "new" promise of "free energy" has been taking quite a foothold world wide within both the scientifically indoctrinated community as well as within our truth community. Only you will be able to discern for yourself, your own conclusion regarding this topic, however never forget that the World Order always seeks infinite ways to distract you from what truly matters most, utilizing such fake promises of a "heaven" in religion, "freedom" in politics, "peace" in history, or "free energy" in science. It's all part a much larger game played on both your mind as well as your spirit (emotions).

To all the members of The World Assembly we send this proposal of banning using the qoutes of "free energy" in media, books, stoping all founding of sience projects that consern "free energy" study and experiments.

Asking all the members to wote for this law and help us eradicate the "free energy" idea from our world, from our lives. We must work together so this false concept can be forgoten.

Only energy is energy that we make, and it's not free, not given to us, not take from nature, all the energy that we have we made.

I believe the use of "us" counts as branding. Also, based on the description, doesn't really seem appropriate. It doesn't seem to protect anyone, just prohibit study.
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Bank Law

A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.

Category: Free Trade

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Augustus Martin

- Recognizing that the individual is the only responsible for economic choices;
- Knowing that governments around the world have already generated economic recessions;
- Understanding that an authoritarian economy undermines the rights of citizens;
- Knowing that money in the hands of the State can cause inflation, deflation and economic cycles;
- Assuming that the gold standard is the only one that limits the economic powers of government and the problems they can generate;

The World Assembly declares that:

I: All nations of the world must extinguish their Central Banks;
II: Member nations must cease printing currency;
III: All nations must adopt the gold standard, withdrawing from the State, therefore, the right of monetary control.

Something seems “off” on this, just can’t put my finger on it at the moment.

Repeal: “Restrictions On Child Labor”

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#4

Proposed by: Sergioso

General Assembly Resolution #4 “Restrictions on Child Labor” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

We Shall repeal this act of economic destruction. Socialists, democrats, monarchists, and fascists, lets all band together to kill off these restrictions.

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Postby Jebslund » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:49 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Bank Law

A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.

Category: Free Trade

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Augustus Martin

- Recognizing that the individual is the only responsible for economic choices;
- Knowing that governments around the world have already generated economic recessions;
- Understanding that an authoritarian economy undermines the rights of citizens;
- Knowing that money in the hands of the State can cause inflation, deflation and economic cycles;
- Assuming that the gold standard is the only one that limits the economic powers of government and the problems they can generate;

The World Assembly declares that:

I: All nations of the world must extinguish their Central Banks;
II: Member nations must cease printing currency;
III: All nations must adopt the gold standard, withdrawing from the State, therefore, the right of monetary control.

Something seems “off” on this, just can’t put my finger on it at the moment.

That something would be at least one, possibly two, Ideological Ban(s) (Communism/Socialism is the one that stands out, given the lack of the State planning the economy, as well as a ban on dictatorships by way of explicitly demanding the State give up the "right of monetary control"), with a side helping of an arguable attempt to affect nonmember nations (Clause I does not specify member nations as Clause II does, and specifically states "All nations of the world", explicitly naming "exists in the world=True" as the group targeted, as opposed to "All nations" full stop, in Clause III, that can be interpreted as implying "all *member* nations".).
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Postby Arasi Luvasa » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:58 pm

Would the 'gold standard' be a real-life reference? It is not necessarily a standard used by all nations, imagine a nation of gold-golems/atronachs/homonculi/whatever using a gold standard :roll:
But yeah I would also go with ideological ban and the affecting non-member nations too.


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Repeal: “Restrictions On Child Labor”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#4

Proposed by: Sergioso

General Assembly Resolution #4 “Restrictions on Child Labor” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

We Shall repeal this act of economic destruction. Socialists, democrats, monarchists, and fascists, lets all band together to kill off these restrictions.


The 'We' here may be considered branding, given the context it seems as though the author is referring to their own nation or a section of the WA. Also more notably, Natsov only if it is even that. Seriously there is no argument here just a call to repeal restrictions.
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:53 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
Bank Law
A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.

Category: Free Trade

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Augustus Martin

- Recognizing that the individual is the only responsible for economic choices;
- Knowing that governments around the world have already generated economic recessions;
- Understanding that an authoritarian economy undermines the rights of citizens;
- Knowing that money in the hands of the State can cause inflation, deflation and economic cycles;
- Assuming that the gold standard is the only one that limits the economic powers of government and the problems they can generate;

The World Assembly declares that:

I: All nations of the world must extinguish their Central Banks;
II: Member nations must cease printing currency;
III: All nations must adopt the gold standard, withdrawing from the State, therefore, the right of monetary control.

Something seems “off” on this, just can’t put my finger on it at the moment.

Same here. My first thought was 'Game Mechanics', because of players' right to designate their nations' currencies being hard-coded into the game, but it might just scrape through there (even if any player does call their national currency the "printed [WHATEVER]"...). There's also the question of whether requiring all currencies to be based on the same single commodity is really 'Free Trade', and I could see potential arguments either way on that point...

Arasi Luvasa wrote:Would the 'gold standard' be a real-life reference? It is not necessarily a standard used by all nations
I think that the meaning is understood widely enough for it to be legal.

Jebslund wrote:That something would be at least one, possibly two, Ideological Ban(s) (Communism/Socialism is the one that stands out, given the lack of the State planning the economy, as well as a ban on dictatorships by way of explicitly demanding the State give up the "right of monetary control"),
That would not be an Ideological ban on dictatorships, any more than requiring them to allow freedom of expression or freedom of assembly would be, and in my opinion it wouldn't be one on communist/socialist governments anyway: After all, apart from anything else, nothing there would bar them from abolishing currency (and banning private ownership of gold) altogether...
;)

Jebslund wrote:with a side helping of an arguable attempt to affect nonmember nations (Clause I does not specify member nations as Clause II does, and specifically states "All nations of the world", explicitly naming "exists in the world=True" as the group targeted, as opposed to "All nations" full stop, in Clause III, that can be interpreted as implying "all *member* nations".).

Ah. That is it. Thank you.

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1 minute ago: Bears Armed: Illegal — GA Resolutions can only target the WA's actual members, not "All nations of the world". Also, see (https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=34813728#p34813728) for other possible problems. If you wish to continue then I suggest that you take this to the GA forum for further drafting and feedback. but to be honest I don't see anything like this as having a hope of passing.
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Advancing The Use Of 3D Printing Technologies

A resolution to develop industry around the world.

Category: Advancement of Industry

Area of Effect: Commercial Enterprise

Proposed by: Danenland

RECOGNIZING that the 3D printing industry provides a cheaper alternative to most current industries,

BELIEVING that further research into the industry would result in better and cheaper 3D printing technologies, and

ASSERTING that the 3D printing industry has nearly limitless potential,

DEFINING the following terms:
1) 3D Printing technologies: The materials and products directly related to the manufacturing and use of 3D printers, material, and 3D printing
products
2)Industrial Use: The use of a technology or product for the manufacturing process
3)Commercial Use: The use of a technology or product for sales and trade purposes
4)Recreational Use: The use of a technology or product by private parties for legal entertainment or interest.
5)Military Use: The active use of a technology or product in a military role, such as weapons production.
6)Medical Use: The use of a technology or product to assist, prevent, or research injuries or the spread of disease.
7)Member States: Any state that is a member of the World Assembly

The Federal Republic of Deutch Island PROPOSES that the following must occur:
1) Any able nations must contribute to the research and development of 3D printer technologies
2) Any nations must be able to access such technologies, as long as it is proven to be for industrial, commercial, and/or recreational use only.
2a) The General Assembly shall conduct inspections of 3D printing research and manufacturing,
2b) The General Assembly shall determine the punishments for violations according to the degree and quantity of the violation(s),
2c) The General Assembly shall not force any member state to contribute more than what is deemed necessary by the member state in question, except if a)the state violates any of part 1 or b)if said contribution is a part of a punishment for a violation of international law.
3) Member states are not limited to selling 3D printing technologies to other member states, provided that such practices do not violate any international laws or treaties.
4) Any perceived violations of international law are to be dealt with at the discretion of the General Assembly.
4a) In the case of the use of 3D printing technologies for active military use by any member states, with the exception of medical aid, any resulting investigation must be conducted with the approval of the World Assembly Security Council.

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Repeal: “Respondeat Superior”

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#447

Proposed by: Republican Riigam

General Assembly Resolution #447 “Respondeat Superior” (Category: Regulation; Area of Effect: Legal Reform) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The Respondent Superior resolution heavily impacts small businesses and smaller and weaker economies. The proposal is also somewhat socialistic, giving governments more world power. The Sultanate of Republican Riigam believes that a repeal of this proposal is needed to protect small growing businesses, and the people of the world from ever growing governments.

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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:05 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
Advancing The Use Of 3D Printing Technologies
A resolution to develop industry around the world.

Category: Advancement of Industry

Area of Effect: Commercial Enterprise

Proposed by: Danenland

RECOGNIZING that the 3D printing industry provides a cheaper alternative to most current industries,

BELIEVING that further research into the industry would result in better and cheaper 3D printing technologies, and

ASSERTING that the 3D printing industry has nearly limitless potential,

DEFINING the following terms:
1) 3D Printing technologies: The materials and products directly related to the manufacturing and use of 3D printers, material, and 3D printing
products
2)Industrial Use: The use of a technology or product for the manufacturing process
3)Commercial Use: The use of a technology or product for sales and trade purposes
4)Recreational Use: The use of a technology or product by private parties for legal entertainment or interest.
5)Military Use: The active use of a technology or product in a military role, such as weapons production.
6)Medical Use: The use of a technology or product to assist, prevent, or research injuries or the spread of disease.
7)Member States: Any state that is a member of the World Assembly

The Federal Republic of Deutch Island PROPOSES that the following must occur:
1) Any able nations must contribute to the research and development of 3D printer technologies
2) Any nations must be able to access such technologies, as long as it is proven to be for industrial, commercial, and/or recreational use only.
2a) The General Assembly shall conduct inspections of 3D printing research and manufacturing,
2b) The General Assembly shall determine the punishments for violations according to the degree and quantity of the violation(s),
2c) The General Assembly shall not force any member state to contribute more than what is deemed necessary by the member state in question, except if a)the state violates any of part 1 or b)if said contribution is a part of a punishment for a violation of international law.
3) Member states are not limited to selling 3D printing technologies to other member states, provided that such practices do not violate any international laws or treaties.
4) Any perceived violations of international law are to be dealt with at the discretion of the General Assembly.
4a) In the case of the use of 3D printing technologies for active military use by any member states, with the exception of medical aid, any resulting investigation must be conducted with the approval of the World Assembly Security Council.

Branding (with a different name), mandates for the Security Council.

Yes. Also, it giving new powers to the GA (in clause '2') counts as Game Mechanics.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:59 pm

You would interpret grant of authority to the General Assembly to be game mechanics? But if we grant that same authority to a committee, itself created by the General Assembly, it is not game mechanics? What's your justification for that? I can think of one at least somewhat reasonable one, but wholly OOC, that it is preferable to make it clear that the General Assembly (the same name as the IC GA, which can do anything) with which players interact cannot in fact do such things.

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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:44 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:You would interpret grant of authority to the General Assembly to be game mechanics? But if we grant that same authority to a committee, itself created by the General Assembly, it is not game mechanics? What's your justification for that? I can think of one at least somewhat reasonable one, but wholly OOC, that it is preferable to make it clear that the General Assembly (the same name as the IC GA, which can do anything) with which players interact cannot in fact do such things.
I think that that's basically it. The only thing that the GA as such can actually do OOC at present is vote on proposed resolutions, with no coded mechanism in existence for it to do anything else, and it's preferable to leave the OOC and IC versions as similar to each other as possible in order to reduce confusion.
(Yes, before you ask, this does mean that I would be willing to accept references to 'regions' and 'delegates' as potentially legal rather than as Meta-gaming, because of delegates' roles -- so well recognized in RP, as well as OOC -- in approving & voting for proposals... but, last time that we discussed the matter, I was out-voted on that point...)
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Ban The Death Penalty

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Elijaia

Realizing the immorality of the death penalty.
Recognizing the hypocrisy of killing someone for killing someone.
Hoping this legislation cuts down on the executions worldwide.

Bans any form of execution, including the electric chair, lethal injection, hanging, or firing squad by any World Assembly Member.
Condemns all countries, WA members or not, that use the Death Penalty, and places sanctions on any countries still executing people.
Ends death row effective immediately, and puts anyone on death row into an ordinary prison.

Seems to explicitly want to effect both WA and non-WA nations.
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Grays Harbor wrote:
Ban The Death Penalty

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Elijaia

Realizing the immorality of the death penalty.
Recognizing the hypocrisy of killing someone for killing someone.
Hoping this legislation cuts down on the executions worldwide.

Bans any form of execution, including the electric chair, lethal injection, hanging, or firing squad by any World Assembly Member.
Condemns all countries, WA members or not, that use the Death Penalty, and places sanctions on any countries still executing people.
Ends death row effective immediately, and puts anyone on death row into an ordinary prison.

Seems to explicitly want to effect both WA and non-WA nations.

I'd consider the "condemns" bit okay, as it doesn't really do anything (presuming that it doesn't mean SC-type condemnations, anyway...), and telling member nations to place sanctions on non-member nations (which I presume is how that clause is meant to work) if those non-members don't meet certain standards has been ruled as okay in the past as well...
However, i'm calling it illegal for contradiction of existing GA legislation: We're explicitly allowed one capital case per one million people per year, per member nation, after all...
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The Hi Protection Act

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Suternia

The World Assembly

Recognizes that the right of using the word "Hi" should be preserved and recognized as a basic human right, and that no government should prohibit the usage of such a word.

Defines the meaning of the word "Hi" as: "A way to greet someone on informal situations"

Mandates that governments who restrict the usage of the word "Hi" should face severe sanctions by the international community.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:24 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:Seems to explicitly want to effect both WA and non-WA nations.

I'd consider the "condemns" bit okay, as it doesn't really do anything (presuming that it doesn't mean SC-type condemnations, anyway...), and telling member nations to place sanctions on non-member nations (which I presume is how that clause is meant to work) if those non-members don't meet certain standards has been ruled as okay in the past as well...
However, i'm calling it illegal for contradiction of existing GA legislation: We're explicitly allowed one capital case per one million people per year, per member nation, after all...

I don't think so.

Subject to World Assembly legislation, member nations are permitted to sentence and carry out capital punishment within their jurisdictions.

There shall be created a Capital Cases division in the Judicial Committee of the Compliance Commission, here referred to as the Division, staffed with competent jurists and forensic scientists, to review submitted cases. To prevent the Division from being overwhelmed by requests for review, any one jurisdiction shall submit no more than than one capital case per million inhabitants per year. For the purposes of avoiding confirmation bias in assessments, the Division shall not keep records of capital punishment procedures.

WA can pass legislation which bans state murder due to section 1. You are not allowed one per mission residents per year. You are allowed at maximum, one per million residents per year. Expressly setting a number of the number of cases, as long as it is less than one, is fine. It does not contradict my resolution.

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