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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun May 06, 2018 11:49 am

Pollution Prevention, Research And Programs
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental

Industry Affected: All Businesses

Proposed by: Scholars of Diplomacy

Outraged at the fact that a lot of pollution is occurring as humans tend to throw out many items as there are a lack of recycling programs.

Worried about the future of the world as pollution has negative health affects in animals, plants, and humans.

Hereby demands the following...
1) All WA nations shall ATTEMPT to install a recycling program to deal with the growing “trash” issue.

A) Taxes or donations shall be collected (depending on a nation by nation basis) to help fund this program.

2)Installs a voluntarily clean up program in which citizens may volunteer their time in efforts to clean up public properties (Govt. institutions and parks/swimming/beach places etc.) in exchange for some reward (tax breaks, etc., reward determined by WA nation).

3)Establishes the “Principle of Enviromental Concern and Evaluation) which will meet twice a year.

A) This committee shall have representatives from each WA nation.

B) This commitee shall collect data on the Enviromental situations of each WA nation regarding to pollution to help provide accurate information in order to raise awareness of the current enviromental issue (pollution etc., filling up of landfills etc., lack of recycling programs etc.)

Hoping that this passes in order to ensure the safety of our environment.

Doesn't do anything other than set up an illegal committee. Nations do not sit on committees.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun May 06, 2018 12:17 pm

General Assembly Proposal
ID: new_netherlands_of_europe_1525632157

A Period Of Military Service For All Citizens
A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.

Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Educational

Proposed by: New Netherlands of Europe

The New Netherlands of Europe is proud to propose the period of military service resolution to the World Assembly.

- All citizens that become 18 years old must serve 11 months in the military.

- The citizens can choose their own unit in which they will serve. (ARMY, MARINE, AIR FORCE, NAVY)

-The first 6 months will be completely based on educational training/self development which includes leadership, teamwork, patriotism, discipline, loyalty, sense of responsibility, brotherhood, medical training, flexibility, adaptable to change, mechanics, cooking, stamina, physical fitness, problem solving, critical observation, self confidence, Integrity, ability to take decisions under pressure, ability to take initiative, emotionally intelligent.

- After 11 months the young adults get a certificate and a medal and maybe a sense of direction they want to go in life.

Prime Minister T. H. D. Engelaar.

Approvals: 0

GenSec Status: LEGAL
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Status: Lacking Support (requires 107 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 8 hours

Category is totally wrong - this is not Education.
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Postby Jebslund » Sun May 06, 2018 12:24 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
General Assembly Proposal
ID: new_netherlands_of_europe_1525632157

A Period Of Military Service For All Citizens
A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.

Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Educational

Proposed by: New Netherlands of Europe

The New Netherlands of Europe is proud to propose the period of military service resolution to the World Assembly.

- All citizens that become 18 years old must serve 11 months in the military.

- The citizens can choose their own unit in which they will serve. (ARMY, MARINE, AIR FORCE, NAVY)

-The first 6 months will be completely based on educational training/self development which includes leadership, teamwork, patriotism, discipline, loyalty, sense of responsibility, brotherhood, medical training, flexibility, adaptable to change, mechanics, cooking, stamina, physical fitness, problem solving, critical observation, self confidence, Integrity, ability to take decisions under pressure, ability to take initiative, emotionally intelligent.

- After 11 months the young adults get a certificate and a medal and maybe a sense of direction they want to go in life.

Prime Minister T. H. D. Engelaar.

Approvals: 0

GenSec Status: LEGAL
Info
Status: Lacking Support (requires 107 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 8 hours

Category is totally wrong - this is not Education.

Also Branding (mentioning a specific nation), No Operative Clause ("The New Netherlands of Europe is proud to propose" does nothing), Formatting (Proposals must be written as laws, not as advertisements/introductions to circus acts), possibly an indirect violation by way of implying an age of majority (18 years).
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Postby Jebslund » Mon May 07, 2018 5:33 am

A Period Of Military Service For All Citizens

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: New Netherlands of Europe

The New Netherlands of Europe is proud to propose the period of military service resolution to the World Assembly.

- All citizens that become 18 years old must serve 11 months in the military.

- The citizens can choose their own unit in which they will serve. (ARMY, MARINE, AIR FORCE, NAVY)

-The first 6 months will be completely based on educational training/self development which includes leadership, teamwork, patriotism, discipline, loyalty, sense of responsibility, brotherhood, medical training, flexibility, adaptable to change, mechanics, cooking, stamina, physical fitness, problem solving, critical observation, self confidence, Integrity, ability to take decisions under pressure, ability to take initiative, emotionally intelligent.

- After 11 months the young adults get a certificate and a medal and maybe a sense of direction they want to go in life.

Prime Minister T. H. D. Engelaar.


Branding (mentioning a specific nation/person), No Operative Clause ("The New Netherlands of Europe is proud to propose" does nothing), Formatting (Proposals must be written as laws, not as advertisements/introductions to circus acts. This isn't a roleplay moment. You can roleplay in the drafting thread (and this is in need of drafting). The proposal queue is for submitting the legal document that, when passed, will be a law (and therefore must be written as said law).), possibly an indirect violation by way of implying an age of majority (18 years).

This, Grays Harbor, is why I list out as many violations as I spot. It may seem like dogpiling, but, when you stop at just the first one, someone eager to get their idea onto the floor may see only the one and think they just have to fix that *one* thing and that's it.
Jebslund is a nation of kerbals ruled by Emperor Jebediah Kerman. We reject tyranny, believing that rights should be protected, though we also believe said rights end where the rights of others begin.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon May 07, 2018 6:30 pm

Jebslund wrote:
A Period Of Military Service For All Citizens

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: New Netherlands of Europe

The New Netherlands of Europe is proud to propose the period of military service resolution to the World Assembly.

- All citizens that become 18 years old must serve 11 months in the military.

- The citizens can choose their own unit in which they will serve. (ARMY, MARINE, AIR FORCE, NAVY)

-The first 6 months will be completely based on educational training/self development which includes leadership, teamwork, patriotism, discipline, loyalty, sense of responsibility, brotherhood, medical training, flexibility, adaptable to change, mechanics, cooking, stamina, physical fitness, problem solving, critical observation, self confidence, Integrity, ability to take decisions under pressure, ability to take initiative, emotionally intelligent.

- After 11 months the young adults get a certificate and a medal and maybe a sense of direction they want to go in life.

Prime Minister T. H. D. Engelaar.


Branding (mentioning a specific nation/person), No Operative Clause ("The New Netherlands of Europe is proud to propose" does nothing), Formatting (Proposals must be written as laws, not as advertisements/introductions to circus acts. This isn't a roleplay moment. You can roleplay in the drafting thread (and this is in need of drafting). The proposal queue is for submitting the legal document that, when passed, will be a law (and therefore must be written as said law).), possibly an indirect violation by way of implying an age of majority (18 years).

This, Grays Harbor, is why I list out as many violations as I spot. It may seem like dogpiling, but, when you stop at just the first one, someone eager to get their idea onto the floor may see only the one and think they just have to fix that *one* thing and that's it.

There's just a few issues with this.

No Operative Clause applies to the proposal as a whole. The proposal obviously has operative clauses: every single line that is preceded with a hyphen would be those clauses. To preempt a claim that all proposals must use Verbs (and Verbing) format, lots of resolutions already write in different formats. Traditional UN-inspired format isn't a requirement.

I wouldn't say that the first hyphenated clause would in fact create an age of majority. To do that, it would have to actually create such an age.

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Postby Jebslund » Mon May 07, 2018 8:18 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Jebslund wrote:
Branding (mentioning a specific nation/person), No Operative Clause ("The New Netherlands of Europe is proud to propose" does nothing), Formatting (Proposals must be written as laws, not as advertisements/introductions to circus acts. This isn't a roleplay moment. You can roleplay in the drafting thread (and this is in need of drafting). The proposal queue is for submitting the legal document that, when passed, will be a law (and therefore must be written as said law).), possibly an indirect violation by way of implying an age of majority (18 years).

This, Grays Harbor, is why I list out as many violations as I spot. It may seem like dogpiling, but, when you stop at just the first one, someone eager to get their idea onto the floor may see only the one and think they just have to fix that *one* thing and that's it.

There's just a few issues with this.

No Operative Clause applies to the proposal as a whole. The proposal obviously has operative clauses: every single line that is preceded with a hyphen would be those clauses. To preempt a claim that all proposals must use Verbs (and Verbing) format, lots of resolutions already write in different formats. Traditional UN-inspired format isn't a requirement.

I wouldn't say that the first hyphenated clause would in fact create an age of majority. To do that, it would have to actually create such an age.


You might have a point with the first hyphen, though I took the hyphens to indicate subclauses, rather than clauses ('We propose the following rules be put in place', rather than 'Here's what we are going to do', meaning that it was all under the umbrella of a suggestion, rather than the individual hyphens being mandates. This is where the 'must be written as the laws they will become' comes in handy, as it eliminates that possible bit of confusion.). Taken as clauses unto themselves, you are right. (in which case it'd only have one mandate and the rest is clarification/fluff). I had never intended to claim that the proposal needs to use verbing format. As written, it seemed as if New Netherlands of Europe was RPing proposing an idea rater than writing a law, and therefore the first hyphen was a subclause to a suggestion, rather than a mandate unto itself.

As to the possible implied creation of an age of majority, 18 is typically taken to be the age of majority in Western nations, so, in my judgement (GenSec may differ), the use of that number indicates this is intended to be such a thing, further implied by, "...the young adults get a certificate and a medal and maybe a sense of direction they want to go in life.". (Emphasis mine). IIRC, there's also a resolution on the books forbidding the use of children (which would be anyone under the age of majority) as soldiers, meaning nations with a higher age of majority would be being forced to use children as soldiers, so, if it isn't that, it's a possible Contradicts Previous Legislation violation, as the GA hasn't and can't set an age of majority, and therefore cannot specify a specific age at which this applies (it would need to be phrased, "Upon reaching the age of majority" or similarly.).
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed May 09, 2018 7:18 am

Imagine if the age of majority were 16. 18 year old citizens are conscripted. And one remains a young adult into their 30s. It violates neither resolution. GenSec could choose to interpret it based on the false dichotomy here, but it would have to be based on the prior that 18 is the relevant age.

Or, it would have to effectively be that any age whatsoever is impermissible, because nations may set all sorts of ages. That, I feel, would be poor indeed. GA 2 says all international treaties must be upheld in good faith. Nations can make all sorts of treaties. Should the possibility that a nation has some treaty preclude what is effectively all legislation?

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Postby Jebslund » Wed May 09, 2018 8:00 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:[shnip]
Or, it would have to effectively be that any age whatsoever is impermissible[shnip]

Not really. Not setting a specific age, but stating that it happens at age of majority, avoids the issue of child soldiers entirely (under that wording, anyone drafted would be of age of majority in their nation. No nation would be sending children to war (barring something stupid like setting the AoM so low as to include prepubescent/pubescent individuals), because the law is written such that it happens when they are considered adults.

Setting a specific age, however, runs the risk of that age being lower than the AoM in some member nations. Even if we only include human nations, 18 is not necessarily the AoM. In the US, for example, it used to be 21, and an 18-year-old was still considered a child. Speaking of...

Imperium Anglorum wrote:And one remains a young adult into their 30s. It violates neither resolution. GenSec could choose to interpret it based on the false dichotomy here, but it would have to be based on the prior that 18 is the relevant age.


If you ask an old person, they'd probably say that stretches out to 40. The point isn't when "young adult" ends, but, rather, where it *begins*, and that's usually implied at 18. In the context of the resolution, it makes even more sense for that to have been the intent when you consider you'd want to start your soldiers off as soon as possible if you're the one making the decision for them to join. You're trying to strip away all context in order to make it conform to your point.

Imperium Anglorum wrote:GA 2 says all international treaties must be upheld in good faith. Nations can make all sorts of treaties. Should the possibility that a nation has some treaty preclude what is effectively all legislation?

Where said treaties are not in violation of other GA resolutions, yes. Where those treaties are in violation of GA law, upholding them would then be in bad faith, would it not? Malicious compliance is a thing, after all.
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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Wed May 09, 2018 10:16 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Or, it would have to effectively be that any age whatsoever is impermissible, because nations may set all sorts of ages.

and GA Resolution #299, clause 4, confirms their right to do so which means that any attempt to set a specific age threshold in a proposal (instead of just tying the proposal's effects to 'age of maturity' or 'age of majority') is illegal for contradiction...
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed May 09, 2018 11:28 am

Let School Pupils Stay Merged In Classes
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: The Henderson Supremicy Lands

As most people may know ,some nations and regions are complying with making the genders seperate in schools.

Merge:
Allow students at schools to vote whether they are merged or segregated as it is their future they would be deciding.It would also make any consequences to his their fault and not the governments.

Compliance:
If the majority vote for one outcome,let the outcome be followed with the only exception being transgender(which would breach human rights if not aloud-this will only be if the students vote segregation).If this is not followed then action will be taken in what the nation or region chooses.

This ( I hope ) will resolve the gender inequality in most schools and give teens more political freedom.

I'm not sure what this is even trying to do.
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Postby Jebslund » Wed May 09, 2018 12:53 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Let School Pupils Stay Merged In Classes
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: The Henderson Supremicy Lands

As most people may know ,some nations and regions are complying with making the genders seperate in schools.

Merge:
Allow students at schools to vote whether they are merged or segregated as it is their future they would be deciding.It would also make any consequences to his their fault and not the governments.

Compliance:
If the majority vote for one outcome,let the outcome be followed with the only exception being transgender(which would breach human rights if not aloud-this will only be if the students vote segregation).If this is not followed then action will be taken in what the nation or region chooses.

This ( I hope ) will resolve the gender inequality in most schools and give teens more political freedom.

I'm not sure what this is even trying to do.

Give students the choice of whether or not to have coed classes, by the look of it.

Either way... Branding, Formatting (Blogposal/GA as a Suggestion Box), No Operative Clause, Optionality even if it *did* do something, possibly Strength (it's flirting with the line, given it's ostensibly a Human Rights resolution) or Category (it might be Significant if it were Education, but I'm not entirely sure that category fits)/ Strength and Category (The Furtherment of Democracy, rather than Human Rights, in which case it'd be mild at *best*)
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Postby Erithaca » Thu May 10, 2018 9:15 am

I am not going to quote them because they are too long together, but every single legal GA proposal is bloggy. Some are branded. Many of them have no active/operative clauses.
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Postby Jebslund » Thu May 10, 2018 9:47 am

*cracks knuckles*
Government Form Neutrality

A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Viceroyalty of Hispania


The call to condemn the Democratic Empire of Romania, though a certain failure, will not be the last time a state is judged for not being “democratic enough”.

To avoid the imbalance of power between states, any other commendments/condemnations of states based on their form of government should be rendered unpassable by the General Assembly as the abuse of commendments/condemnations will rally enemies together against the target nation. This can also be used as a tool to silence the target’s proposal in the World Assembly.

The World Assembly should represent its members equally and blindly regardless of the level of authoritarianism or democracy is present in the state.

If this is allowed to continue, the World Assembly would be dominated by only nations with a specific government who will most likely be working together.

Branding, Metagaming, Wrong Category, Wrong Strength.


Repeal: “Traditional Medicine”

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#429

Proposed by: The FreeAmericanEmpire


General Assembly Resolution #429 “Traditional Medicine” (Category: Health; Area of Effect: Research) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

I think traditional medicine is a pretty lit thing and I wanna keep it.



Format, Branding, Sloganeering, Does Not Address the Target Resolution, NatSov-only, borderline joke proposal

Repeal: “Traditional Medicine”

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#429

Proposed by: Italianlord


General Assembly Resolution #429 “Traditional Medicine” (Category: Health; Area of Effect: Research) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

I don't understand why we need an traditional medicine however we are advance in medicine that we should focus on future technology and I think it not worth it try retried to save someone live that the traditional medicine is not very effective anymore.......
I will not surprise that it will not fully repeal


Basic Grammar/Conventions, Branding, Formatting, Does Not Address the Target Resolution

Repeal: “Nuclear Arms Possession Act”

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#10

Proposed by: Miko Kan


General Assembly Resolution #10 “Nuclear Arms Possession Act” (Category: International Security; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Nuclear Arms Possession Act repeal. Repeal active for the reason of ensuring the disarment of nuclear weapons. In this day in age it’s important and the rightful duty of the World Assembly to ensure and promote efforts towards peace. Such efforts cannot be done without the repeal of the Nuclear Arms Possesion Act, and the setting of new nuclear disarmament standards.

Repeal calls for:

1.The Repeal of Nuclear Arms Posession Act


Formatting, Does Not Address the Target Resolution

Erithaca, it's a long post, but it helps to be specific, especially since Eldrahar's repeal proposal isn't any of those (repeals do not need operative clauses, and, in face, *cannot* have any except those to effect of "Hereby repeals".), nor is it illegal (even if it's a little barebones) as far as I can tell (the first point does address the need to test medicines before they're legal).
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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu May 10, 2018 11:27 am

Institute Slavery
A resolution to develop industry around the world.

Category: Advancement of Industry

Area of Effect: Labor Deregulation

Proposed by: Minba Chasland

Instituitng chattel slavery worldwide would economic output enormously.

Approvals: 0

Direct contradiction of #23, Ban on Slavery and Trafficking. Also, nothing more than a bumpersticker slogan.
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Postby Erithaca » Thu May 10, 2018 1:29 pm

Sorry about that, I shall try to make future posts here sufficiently detailed. Why do you think that the Proposals Board has been flooded with illegal proposals?
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Postby Jebslund » Thu May 10, 2018 1:37 pm

Erithaca wrote:Sorry about that, I shall try to make future posts here sufficiently detailed. Why do you think that the Proposals Board has been flooded with illegal proposals?

People don't read the rules or bother with drafting. It happens from time to time.
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Singular/Plural nonsapient: Kermanic
Note: When a verb can logically only be done by the sapient using/piloting/holding the object in question, then the appropriate demonym for the number of sapients is used.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu May 10, 2018 5:45 pm

Global Warming Initiative

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental

Industry Affected: Manufacturing

Proposed by: Medernistania

Definitions:
-Global Warming: The warming of the Earth caused by an increase from greenhouse gases preventing solar rays from exiting the Earth
-Initiative: An act or strategy intended to resolve a difficulty or improve a situation

Understanding:
-That global warming is happening at an alrming rate
-Change needs to happen for future generations

World Assembly Members:
-Decrease fuel emissions
-Increase taxes on businesses that emit greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, except water vapor
-Reduce drilling

Effects of global warming
-Increase water levels
-Melting of ice caps
-Unusual record high temperatures
-Changes in climate

NS =/= Earth


The WA And Nations Rights Act

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Miko Kan

The Word Assembly and Nation’s Rights Act is created to ensure that a fine line between a nation’s rights and the World Assembly’s rights is established.

1. World Assembly MUST allow nations to follow a spiritual path of that nation's choosing with exceptions listed in this act.

2. The World Assembly may NOT condemn a nation for committing acts that are under;

A. Committed under the circumstance of religious belief/ritual
B. Committed in the intention of betterment for that nation
C. Committed in the intention of that nation’s defense

3. Nations participating in the World Assembly may NOT infringe basic human rights in means of;

A. Depriving food from targeted groups of people
B. Refusal of education
C. Discrimination of a certain group or groups of people
D. Mass genocide or slaughtering of a group or groups of people
E. Every mean of infringement listed above eliminate the factor of ‘religious belief’ meaning religion may NOT be an excuse for participating in those acts of human rights infringements.

4. If the World Assembly breaks a rule listed above regarding to it, it MUST participate in an assembly wide replacement of delegates.

5. If a Nation breaks a rule regarding to it, the World Assembly may condemn and remove that nation from participating in the Assembly effective immediately.


The GA doesn’t have diddly squat to do with condemnation.
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Postby Eleftheria Anexelenkti » Fri May 11, 2018 5:43 am


Abolition Of The Party System

A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

Category: Political Stability
Strength: Significant
Proposed by:

Novomagocha
The World Assembly,

Defining the "Party System" as a system of democracy in which candidates for public office run under and for political parties,

Acknowledging that not all World Assembly member nations are democracies or have party systems, and therefore this resolution will not affect all member nations,

Understanding the benefits of party systems upon which they were founded, being the convenience of voter understanding of candidates' policies based on those associated with their respective parties, and the organization of candidates into like-minded groups,

Dismayed about the many issues and negative effects the different forms of party systems have, enumerated here:
a.) The single party system, which, while allowing for maximum convenience, also allows for extreme government
corruption;
b.) The system wherein two or three parties dominate, which propagates unhealthy conflict over partisanship and
political polarization among the people of nations with such systems, and;
c.) The system of proportional representation, which creates an inefficient, and therefore weak government, through the
allowance of power to many parties constantly vying for their respective opinions;

Convinced the abolition of party systems will improve the quality of government in all democratic nations, and of the advantages of abolishing party systems, enumerated here:
a.) The removal of all the disadvantages of the party system, demonstrated above;
b.) The compelling of citizen voters to be more politically conscious by paying closer attention to the policies of political
candidates before they vote those candidates into office, as they will not be able to vote simply on the basis of party,
and the subsequent election of politicians who will more truly reflect the wants and needs of the people;

Hereby:
a.) Abolishes the party system of election in all democratic nations;
b.) Removes all political parties from existence in all democratic nations, and;
c.) Urges democratic nations to promote significant, yet consensual (in cases of voter political expression through
political abstinence) voter involvement in politics, and discourage political laziness among voters.



Looks like an ideological ban.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Grays Harbor » Fri May 11, 2018 5:16 pm

Deport All Elderly People

A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: We are Your God

Elderly people hold back so many countries and economies. A way they do this is that they don't work so they are just freeloading off the money that we give them with retirement and if they do work, they are just stealing jobs from younger citizens, so it is just a lose lose situation for everyone.

If this ain’t a joke proposal, and if this is meant seriously, then I find it in extremely poor taste and quite offensive.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Fri May 11, 2018 10:59 pm

The Street Act

A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.

Category: Moral Decency

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: United Federation of Harsuto

look around town, there are homeless on the street just begging for a second chance, but cant so we as a people need to atleast help them start off with a fresh start. And if that is passed it should be all homeless will be helped and supported by nation government to lower poverty levels and increase the income of the poor. This will surely get homeless off the streets and in a better life and make the world a better place.

Blog, does nothing, suspect strength

Animal Experimentation

A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.

Category: Health

Area of Effect: Healthcare

Proposed by: United Federation of Harsuto

Many people in the world do not have health insurance or can afford medical care. The world needs a system that offers medical insurance to all and making medical bills e way to pay or eradicate medical bills that exceed a certain value. Therefore hoping everyone that needs medical care like homeless low income and many others.

Blog. the title and bloggy text don’t come close to being about the same thing.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sat May 12, 2018 1:54 pm

Strengthen The EPA

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental

Industry Affected: All Businesses - Mild

Proposed by: Salavako

The Environmental Protection Agency should grow stronger in each country of the world to further control and protect the environment from growth of factories and other industries.

The following side laws are put in affect for the strengthen of the EPA bill when passed
1. some industries with a high pollution need to be shutdown, but not all of them
2. It is illegal to dump in lakes rivers and oceans anyone caught will be given a fine
3. Occasionally landfills will be partly emptied and that emptied things will be reused again and the landfill can fill up again and the cycle continues

RL reference (EPA). NS =/= USA
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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon May 14, 2018 2:45 pm

Democracys Insurance Policy
A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.

Category: Gun Control

Decision: Relax

Proposed by: The Dutchy Of Pittland

The Euro Arab Union, my home region, has come to the common consensus that to protect the advancement of democracy, the relaxing of restrictive gun laws within World Assembly countries should be implemented. The only way to protect our democratic values from tyrannical governments is to give the common man an insurance policy, the opportunity to fight back. It should be mentioned that the Euro Arab Union nor the Dutchy of Pittland support anarachy and would support common sense regulation, however, we believe that arms are the only way to protect society from government tyranny. In addition to this, giving money to arms manufacturers will allow for the strengthening of World Assembly nation economies on a large scale. Overall, more freedom from tyranny and the advancement of democracy through less gun control will ultimately lead to an era of prosperity in the world.

Branding. Blogging.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue May 15, 2018 7:31 am

Democratic Reforms
A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Ravens Guild

This resolution has been tried, but it didn't have the strongest of beliefs, the previous one suggested leaders to give civil rights, this one makes sure they do. Therefore changes of definitions and beliefs will be sought after.

Therefore, the World Assembly,

Aware that even in democracies the tenure of government or other public office, especially if prolonged and without credible opposition, may help lead national or sub-national leaders, government members, other politicians, and public officials, into a belief that they are naturally superior to their nations’ other inhabitants, and to think that their own views are not just the only ones they need to consider but the only ones that might even be worth considering at all,

Defining the term 'the relevant people', for the purposes of this resolution, as meaning 'Any person who is in any WA member nation',

Recognising that some of the relevant people might sometimes allow belief in their own superiority to lead them into arrogant actions, or into the passage of badly-thought-out legislation, to the detriment of their nations’ other inhabitants,

Recognising also that some of the relevant people, especially if confident of retaining power, might allow their policies and actions to be influenced by prejudice either towards or against various elements of their nations’ populations,

Hereby,

1. Makes in mandatory for ALL of the relevant people to listen seriously to constructive criticism and constructive advice, and to take this advice in the spirit in which it is meant, instead of just ignoring, belittling or even punishing, the sources of that criticism and advice;

2. Makes it mandatory for ALL of the relevant people to act consistently in the best interests of the people within their jurisdictions as a whole, without letting prejudice either towards or against any elements of those populations influence the ways in which they perform their official responsibilities;

3. Suggesting that to all of the relevant people that are listening to public opinion may improve their chances of remaining in office;

4. Declares that if a member nation's government officially states that it will regard the result of a forthcoming referendum or plebiscite as binding, and that vote is on a subject legal under both WA law and the nation’s own constitution, then (even if that nation's constitution itself does not state legally-binding referendums or plebiscites to be possible) that government must indeed consider itself bound by the results of that poll and act accordingly without undue delay;

5. Stated in law 1 that it is mandatory for ALL relevant people to seriously listen to constructive criticism and constructive advice, therefore non-constructive criticism and constructive advice will be defined as 'any criticism that has no clear message towards improvement' such as 'get better' and 'that isn't good do it differently' these examples show non-constructive criticism and constructive advice, which is not mandatory to listen too.

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Plagiarism of this

Pride And Prejudice
A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Bears Armed Mission

It is a truth [almost] universally acknowledged that a government which has been firmly in control of its nation for quite a while is most in need of honest criticism, and of the humility with which to listen to this advice…

Therefore, the World Assembly,

Aware that even in democracies the tenure of government or other public office, especially if prolonged and without credible opposition, may help lead national or sub-national leaders, government members, other politicians, and public officials, into a belief that they are naturally superior to their nations’ other inhabitants, and to think that their own views are not just the only ones they need to consider but the only ones that might even be worth considering at all,

Defining the term 'the relevant people', for the purposes of this resolution, as meaning 'national and sub-national leaders, government members, other politicians, and public officials, whose roles involve making, voting on, and/or advising on public policy in any WA member nation',

Recognising that some of the relevant people might sometimes allow belief in their own superiority to lead them into arrogant actions, or into the passage of badly-thought-out legislation, to the detriment of their nations’ other inhabitants,

Recognising also that some of the relevant people, especially if confident of retaining power, might allow their policies and actions to be influenced by prejudice either towards or against various elements of their nations’ populations,

Believing that if any of the relevant people give in to Pride and Prejudice in these ways then they are unlikely to govern those nations in the best interests of the overall populations therein;

Hereby,

1. Strongly Urges all of the relevant people to listen seriously to honest criticism and constructive advice, and to take this advice in the spirit in which it is meant, instead of just ignoring, belittling or even punishing, the sources of that criticism and advice;

2. Strongly Urges all of the relevant people to act consistently in the best interests of the people within their jurisdictions as a whole, without letting prejudice either towards or against any elements of those populations influence the ways in which they perform their official responsibilities;

3. Suggests to all of the relevant people that listening to public opinion might improve their chances of remaining in office;

4. Declares that if a member nation's government officially states that it will regard the result of a forthcoming referendum or plebiscite as binding, and that vote is on a subject legal under both WA law and the nation’s own constitution, then (even if that nation's constitution itself does not state legally-binding referendums or plebiscites to be possible) that government must indeed consider itself bound by the results of that poll and act accordingly without undue delay;

5. Reminds all of the relevant people that no matter how long and how firmly they may have held those positions, or for how much longer they might reasonably expect to retain them, it is highly unlikely (unless they have very unusual metabolisms indeed…) that the sun actually shines forth from any portions of their anatomies.
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Postby Jebslund » Tue May 15, 2018 8:38 am

Helping the little guys

A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.


Category: Political Stability

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Kosovolu


Acknowledging: There are thousands of nations struggling to become a part of our community.
The Problem: Smaller nations are unable to receive the required endorsements to submit proposals that would help countries and regions all over the world.
The Solution: To endorse fledgling nations and welcoming them to our group.
Defining: Fledgling nations as nations with 2 or less endorsements.
Clarifying: It is not limited to 2 or less but encouraged


Leaving off the fact that this a bad idea for many, many reasons and that enough newbies to the Proposal game don't bother to RTFR and/or don't understand what Proposals are as it is...

Formatting (Proposals must be written as laws, not blogs), No Operative Clause (The Solution: does nothing), possibly Metagaming (requiring (and possibly even just mentioning) endorsement if it did what you wanted)

I wish to hell people would draft before submitting...
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