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Apokolip5
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Postby Apokolip5 » Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:02 am

Should guns be outlawed in an attempt at total world peace? :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:49 am

No.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:16 am

Apokolip5 wrote:Should guns be outlawed in an attempt at total world peace? :clap: :clap: :clap:

"Any attempt to try will be met with extreme force. You know, just to be ironic."

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Postby The United Remnants of America » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:18 am

If the world outlaws guns only outlaw countries will have guns.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:20 am

The United Remnants of America wrote:If the world outlaws guns only outlaw countries will have guns.

"Which would be bad. And everybody knows the only thing that can stop a bad country with a gun is a good country with a gun...wait..."

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Postby Chinese Peoples » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:20 am

If WA membership were mandatory and default, then yes.

But since it isn't, no.
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Postby Vilkia » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:25 am

Apokolip5 wrote:Should guns be outlawed in an attempt at total world peace? :clap: :clap: :clap:


Seriously. Guns are not the problem. Guns are never the problem. Its just that small percentage of people who misuse them that is the problem. Also, every single country that banned guns crime rate INCREASED. Look up crime rates in England and Canada after they banned guns. Furthermore, who is going to listen to guns being outlawed? The law abiding countries would. But what about the communists and Muslim (Jihadists to be politacally correct.) nations? They won't listen to those laws. They would LOVE for them to be passed because it makes those nations that listened to them defenseless. During World War II, Japan was thinking of invading the United States homeland. But Yamato, who had been to college in America, said that they would be a bad idea. Some of his exact words when he was explaining why attacking the U.S. was a bad idea was,"Behind every blade of grass, is an armed American."

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Postby Chinese Peoples » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:31 am

Vilkia wrote:
Apokolip5 wrote:Should guns be outlawed in an attempt at total world peace? :clap: :clap: :clap:


Seriously. Guns are not the problem. Guns are never the problem. Its just that small percentage of people who misuse them that is the problem. Also, every single country that banned guns crime rate INCREASED. Look up crime rates in England and Canada after they banned guns. Furthermore, who is going to listen to guns being outlawed? The law abiding countries would. But what about the communists and Muslim (Jihadists to be politacally correct.) nations? They won't listen to those laws. They would LOVE for them to be passed because it makes those nations that listened to them defenseless. During World War II, Japan was thinking of invading the United States homeland. But Yamato, who had been to college in America, said that they would be a bad idea. Some of his exact words when he was explaining why attacking the U.S. was a bad idea was,"Behind every blade of grass, is an armed American."

But... but... China banned guns in the 1300s, and China is now a fairly safe place! :meh:
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Postby Wrapper » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:33 am

Vilkia wrote:
Apokolip5 wrote:Should guns be outlawed in an attempt at total world peace? :clap: :clap: :clap:


Seriously. Guns are not the problem. Guns are never the problem. Its just that small percentage of people who misuse them that is the problem. Also, every single country that banned guns crime rate INCREASED. Look up crime rates in England and Canada after they banned guns. Furthermore, who is going to listen to guns being outlawed? The law abiding countries would. But what about the communists and Muslim (Jihadists to be politacally correct.) nations? They won't listen to those laws. They would LOVE for them to be passed because it makes those nations that listened to them defenseless. During World War II, Japan was thinking of invading the United States homeland. But Yamato, who had been to college in America, said that they would be a bad idea. Some of his exact words when he was explaining why attacking the U.S. was a bad idea was,"Behind every blade of grass, is an armed American."

These arguments belong in General, not the WA.

As a matter of fact, if there isn't a proposal here, we're all wasting our time.

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Postby The United Remnants of America » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:35 am

Vilkia wrote:
Apokolip5 wrote:Should guns be outlawed in an attempt at total world peace? :clap: :clap: :clap:


Seriously. Guns are not the problem. Guns are never the problem. Its just that small percentage of people who misuse them that is the problem. Also, every single country that banned guns crime rate INCREASED. Look up crime rates in England and Canada after they banned guns. Furthermore, who is going to listen to guns being outlawed? The law abiding countries would. But what about the communists and Muslim (Jihadists to be politacally correct.) nations? They won't listen to those laws. They would LOVE for them to be passed because it makes those nations that listened to them defenseless. During World War II, Japan was thinking of invading the United States homeland. But Yamato, who had been to college in America, said that they would be a bad idea. Some of his exact words when he was explaining why attacking the U.S. was a bad idea was,"Behind every blade of grass, is an armed American."

Japan banned guns. Crime rates didn't increase. Your argument is invalid.

Scandinavian states banned guns. Crime rates didn't increase. Your argument is invalid.

New Zealand has extremely stringent gun laws by American standards, crime rates are relatively low. Your argument is invalid.

Separatist Peoples wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:If the world outlaws guns only outlaw countries will have guns.

"Which would be bad. And everybody knows the only thing that can stop a bad country with a gun is a good country with a gun...wait..."


And the only good country that deserves to have guns is the URA, of course. 8)
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