Who Really Controls the GA?

[Caracasus]

What exactly are "lemmings"? Are they the animal? Or is it some term on NS?

In this context ambassador, it is used to describe WA nations who do not really read the resolution but blindly fling themselves either for or against the resolution depending on how the votes look at the time.

[Povinksi]

The GA/WA Elite is not a joke. There are a real group of nations that dramatically influence the outcome of votes. I don't care if you don't believe me or think I'm joking; there's a dozen reasons to be contrary to this viewpoint and I understand why so many people are.

Yeah, in the same way that some people believe Alex Jones and David Icke.

[Povinksi]

What exactly are "lemmings"? Are they the animal? Or is it some term on NS?

In this context ambassador, it is used to describe WA nations who do not really read the resolution but blindly fling themselves either for or against the resolution depending on how the votes look at the time.

Oh. So the sheeple.

[Povinksi]

Nobody controls it. People who whine that they can't convince enough high-endo delegates to vote for their proposals ought to look in the mirror instead of pointing fingers. Their proposals may be sub-par, or too complex for the average player to understand, or addressing "boring" topics or just too damn long that most players can't be bothered with them. Or, perhaps, they just aren't throwing enough money at this game like the Bitelys and Auralias do.

OoC: I don't think he spent that much. Maybe 20$, at the most.
And also, Defwa's gone.

[Povinksi]

Just crunched some numbers. The WA "elite" are, according to me-
SillyString
Pierconium
Feirmont
Mediobogdum
Paffina
Ramaeus
Mousebumples(the WA Elite secretly made him a moderator to expand their power)
Imperium Anglorum
and sadly-
Vancouvia.
If these 9 delegates control the WA and all vote unanimously, they would control a bloc of a whooping,
3,000 something votes.

[Vancouvia]

^the quadruple postman

[Excidium Planetis]

What exactly are "lemmings"? Are they the animal? Or is it some term on NS?

It's based on a video game that you can google. It refers to someone doing something because everyone else is. "Jumping off a cliff because your friends told you to"

> Real Life animal known for jumping off cliffs (I believe this is actually a myth)
> Vancouvia brings up the video game

Anyways,

Lemmings: Voters who vote without any actual knowledge of the resolution, usually voting the way the vote is already going, but sometimes voting yes because the title is cool or because they just like saying yes.

[Vancouvia]

I brought up the video game because the real life animal jumping off cliffs may be a myth

[Sciongrad]

Again - The people you put forward for the most part are more heavily involved in GP then they are in RP. They're Gameplayers who roleplay.

This response either suggests you're unfamiliar with the people Kenny just listed or you're so blinded by your fanatical idolization of gameplayers that you see anyone who has influence over the system as, ipso facto, primarily gameplayers.

Relevance? Pulling out datted examples of how the WA used to run makes no sense. Look back a couple of years and you'll see a rather considerable decline in quality of proposals. Same goes for how the place was run.

Umm? The relevance is that the EID was primarily composed of roleplayers who used their political savvy to pass tons of resolutions, i.e. the very type of players you're suggesting don't exist. You can't just dismiss out of hand an example that defies your worldview just because the specific example is not currently around. I'm also not sure why the quality of the resolutions is relevant. If anything, were the assertion to be true (it isn't - it's obviously just a shameless jab at GA roleplayers) it proves roleplayers of the period were so adept at influencing the vote that even the unimpeachable and irreproachable wisdom and infinite power and influence of the gameplayers weren't enough to so much as control the quality of resolutions, let alone control the system.

And where is this coming from? Haven't mentioned Osiris, UDL or AO (Who's AO?) so what is this even related to?

How can you claim to have an informed opinion on this subject when you don't know what AO is? You have absolutely no knowledge of this discussion yet you still feel the need remind roleplayers about how irrelevant we are compared to gameplayers. If you're prepared with relevant knowledge, by all means, defend the assertion that gameplayers are the kingmakers, but don't saunter in here and casually dismiss facts when they either don't suit your argument or are beyond your comprehension. Roleplayers historically have had significant influence on the outcome of votes. Dharma's meteoric rise was a result of their own political savvy, not gameplayers. GA regulars that infiltrated the gameplay sphere don't prove how important and powerful gameplayers are but rather are examples of deliberate and skillful maneuvers by GA roleplayers to advance their own agendas. I know you think gameplay is all that and a bag of chips, but you honestly bring nothing to this discussion if you're only capable of saying "we've got lots of votes so we win" and dismiss contrary evidence with "that happened too long ago" or "I don't know about that so it's probably not relevant."

Anyway, the GA is actually controlled by a cabal of influential regulars that not only decides the fates of resolutions, but who the authors are and what they write about. Every proposal ever written in these forums is the product of deliberate but clandestine plotting. Every thread, every post, every word is penned first in the shadows. Authors are puppets, planted to act as independent players. What they write and whether or not it gets to vote is preordained. Even your responses, which you think are the products of your own free will, are predicted by crafting posts that are deliberately meant to exact a specific response from a specific player. The GA itself is only a well constructed facade that veils the dark shadow world below.

*puts on tin foil hat*

[Tinfect]

Anyway, the GA is actually controlled by a cabal of influential regulars that not only decide the fates of resolutions, but who the authors are and what they write about. Every proposal ever written in these forums is the product of deliberate but clandestine plotting. Every thread, every post, every word is penned first in the shadows. Authors are puppets, planted to act as independent players. What they write and whether or not it gets to vote is preordained. Even your responses, which you think are the products of your own free will, are predicted by crafting posts that are deliberately meant to exact a specific response from a specific player. The GA itself is only a well constructed facade that veils the dark shadow world below.

Goddammit, Sciongrad, you gave it away!

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Dammit, scion! How are we supposed to spin the next AO = UNOG = GA = Secretariat CONSPIRACY!!!!11!! scandal now?! You've basically revealed everything that could possibly be useful to the drooling truther brigade. Rawr!!

[Imperium Anglorum]

Sciongrad! Why do you do this to us! That argument about the pool table in the basement of the Great Pyramid which we fly to every Saturday to plan all this stuff... is that why? I'm still sticking the my guns! The felt should be blue, not green!

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Quiet you. Any real man knows the felt should be red. It hides the blood should the match turn ugly.

[Tinfect]

Sciongrad! Why do you do this to us! That argument about the pool table in the basement of the Great Pyramid which we fly to every Saturday to plan all this stuff... is that why? I'm still sticking the my guns! The felt should be blue, not green!

Quiet you. Any real man knows the felt should be red. It hides the blood should the match turn ugly.

Quiet, the both of you! Let's compromise and have it be Purple, yeah?

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Just crunched some numbers. The WA "elite" are, according to me-

Mousebumples(the WA Elite secretly made him a moderator to expand their power)

*her

[Caracasus]

Frankly ambassador we don't care what colour felt we use, as long as the pool table is relocated from its current position - there's a distinct slope to where it is now - and that's not just sour grapes after losing the fifth game in a row.

[Grays Harbor]

*sigh*

Dammit. So much for my semi-retirement. I suppose now we need to reactivate the WA Assasin Squad WA Fluffy Bunny Association?

*sigh*

[Frustrated Franciscans]

In this context ambassador, it is used to describe WA nations who do not really read the resolution but blindly fling themselves either for or against the resolution depending on how the votes look at the time.

Lemmings can also vote depending on how cute the title looks.

[We Are Anonymous]

In this context ambassador, it is used to describe WA nations who do not really read the resolution but blindly fling themselves either for or against the resolution depending on how the votes look at the time.

Lemmings can also vote depending on how cute the title looks.

Or how PC.
Puppet Nation of Povinksi.

[Araraukar]

Dammit. So much for my semi-retirement. I suppose now we need to reactivate the WA Assasin Squad WA Fluffy Bunny Association?

Glad to have you back - we'll definitely need you to re-activate every single GA meme.

[Povinksi]

Dammit. So much for my semi-retirement. I suppose now we need to reactivate the WA Assasin Squad WA Fluffy Bunny Association?

Glad to have you back - we'll definitely need you to re-activate every single GA meme.

There were NS memes?!?!?!!?

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Glad to have you back - we'll definitely need you to re-activate every single GA meme.

There were NS memes?!?!?!!?

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=310030&p=21522786#p21522786

[Grays Harbor]

Glad to have you back - we'll definitely need you to re-activate every single GA meme.

There were NS memes?!?!?!!?

Over a hundred, last I recall.

[Povinksi]

There were NS memes?!?!?!!?

Over a hundred, last I recall.

Show me some.

[Grays Harbor]

Over a hundred, last I recall.

Show me some.

They are on my dead computor that is being worked on. All my posting currently are on my kindle or phone.