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WA Topic: Universal Vegetarianism

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Would you support the Vegetarian Law?

Yes I definitely would!
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7%
Yes I could support it
2
2%
I am not sure
0
No votes
No I would rather not
7
7%
Absolutely not!
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85%
 
Total votes : 104

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WA Topic: Universal Vegetarianism

Postby Bordav » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:28 pm

I am wishing to propose a law in the WA that would be beneficial to our nation's health and improve the rights of animals. I wish to create a law that would make nations required to be vegetarian. Now this is a very radical move and I would like your support very much. And also if you are not a WA member please stay out of this thread. Ask me questions about this and I will answer via this forum or telegram. Much regards, Bordav


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Postby Bordav » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:42 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:Wrong forum. Moved, General :arrow: GA

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Postby The Fair Republic » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:42 pm

I think that this is an overstep of the W.A's powers. Thus I won't support the bill
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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:42 pm

Bordav wrote:I am wishing to propose a law in the WA that would be beneficial to our nation's health and improve the rights of animals. I wish to create a law that would make nations required to be vegetarian. Now this is a very radical move and I would like your support very much. And also if you are not a WA member please stay out of this thread. Ask me questions about this and I will answer via this forum or telegram. Much regards, Bordav

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Postby Nouvelle o France » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:47 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:Not happening. Seriously. Not. Ever.


I would like to add that several species who are members of this assembly are strictly carnivorous with some considering Nonsense Legislator as a Gourmet Meal.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:48 pm

"Wallenburgians like meat. Most people like meat. Carnivores would die if they couldn't eat meat. Out of concern for the health of our people and carnivorous sapients, we can never support this."
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Postby Novsvacro » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:49 pm

"But what will we do with the flesh of the slaughtered bourgeoisie?"
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Postby Nickel Empire » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:50 pm

Are you trying to destroy our agriculture industry?
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Postby Liberty and Alderney » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:51 pm

Bordav wrote:I am wishing to propose a law in the WA that would be beneficial to our nation's health and improve the rights of animals. I wish to create a law that would make nations required to be vegetarian. Now this is a very radical move and I would like your support very much. And also if you are not a WA member please stay out of this thread. Ask me questions about this and I will answer via this forum or telegram. Much regards, Bordav

Out of concern for the fast food indust- I mean, people's choices and for some peoples, nessecity, we will not support this proposal.
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Postby Bordav » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:52 pm

Novsvacro wrote:"But what will we do with the flesh of the slaughtered bourgeoisie?"

BURN IT COMRADE!
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Postby Ferret Civilization » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:53 pm

"Like the other ambassadors have said, people like their meat. Out in the wilds and in nature some animals eat meat, so why should the sapient members of the WA give up meat. It's not a natural thing for everyone, forcing something like this would be really unreasonable. And if the concern is that much for other sapient creatures, it is a risk that must be taken."
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Postby Bordav » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:53 pm

THis is for animals rights. Consider the benefits. It won't destroy agriculture, replace it with something that does not kill. Ahimsa my friend!

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Postby Bordav » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:55 pm

Ferret Civilization wrote:"Like the other ambassadors have said, people like their meat. Out in the wilds and in nature some animals eat meat, so why should the sapient members of the WA give up meat. It's not a natural thing for everyone, forcing something like this would be really unreasonable. And if the concern is that much for other sapient creatures, it is a risk that must be taken."

How about we alter it so that animal farming is illegal but carnivorous species may hunt for their food as it is the natural way to obtain meat.
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Postby The New American commonwealth » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:56 pm

Humanity (or whatever other delegates may be) have been (or most likely) been eating meat for milleniums! Outlawing it is a breach of Human Rights, desecrates some meat oriented cultures, and may disrupt Economies, so I say no, nein, non, Nyet.
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Postby Bordav » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:57 pm

May I ask who else voted "Yes I definitely would!"?
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Postby Ferret Civilization » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:57 pm

Bordav wrote:THis is for animals rights. Consider the benefits. It won't destroy agriculture, replace it with something that does not kill. Ahimsa my friend!


"The benefit would be one group would suffer, and possibly even die, for the protection of another. Isn't that the way it is now, no matter what some group is going to be on the raw end of the deal."

Bordav wrote:How about we alter it so that animal farming is illegal but carnivorous species may hunt for their food as it is the natural way to obtain meat.


"A little better, but it still pushes it. If you were to go along the lines that animal farming should have some regulation, might be better. Though the more experienced members here would probably have better advice."
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Postby Bordav » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:58 pm

The New American commonwealth wrote:Humanity (or whatever other delegates may be) have been (or most likely) been eating meat for milleniums! Outlawing it is a breach of Human Rights, desecrates some meat oriented cultures, and may disrupt Economies, so I say no, nein, non, Nyet.

It is by no mean a breach of human rights! What about the rights of animals?
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Postby Nouvelle o France » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:59 pm

Bordav wrote:How about we alter it so that animal farming is illegal but carnivorous species may hunt for their food as it is the natural way to obtain meat.


What if it's a carnivorous modern nation where no amount of hunting can ever provide enough food for the entire population ? Animal farming IS necessary, maybe a necessary evil from your perspective, but still necessary.
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Postby Nouvelle o France » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:00 pm

Bordav wrote:It is by no mean a breach of human rights! What about the rights of animals?


I never saw any resolution about animal rights, so I'd say, they have none.
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Postby The New American commonwealth » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:02 pm

Bordav wrote:
The New American commonwealth wrote:Humanity (or whatever other delegates may be) have been (or most likely) been eating meat for milleniums! Outlawing it is a breach of Human Rights, desecrates some meat oriented cultures, and may disrupt Economies, so I say no, nein, non, Nyet.

It is by no mean a breach of human rights! What about the rights of animals?

Well, if a man chooses to eat a certain food of his free will, and people agree with him he should be able to, then banning kinda is.
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Postby Ferret Civilization » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:08 pm

Bordav wrote:[It is by no mean a breach of human rights! What about the rights of animals?


"Animals attack each other all the time, some herbivores may not, but in the wild it happens. It's a part of nature, just because a more advanced group does it does not change that basic principle."
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Postby Bordav » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:09 pm

Nouvelle o France wrote:
Bordav wrote:It is by no mean a breach of human rights! What about the rights of animals?


I never saw any resolution about animal rights, so I'd say, they have none.

By god that's why I want to pass this resolution!
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Postby Bordav » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:10 pm

Maybe we should begin with banning cattle farming, eh?
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Postby The New American commonwealth » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:11 pm

Bordav wrote:
Nouvelle o France wrote:
I never saw any resolution about animal rights, so I'd say, they have none.

By god that's why I want to pass this resolution!

Maybe if it was about taking care of your Livestock, not abusing them, and not putting them down cruelly or have a doctors opinion first, maybe more people would be in favor of it.
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