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Re-Draft "Climate World Summit"

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Meldaria
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Re-Draft "Climate World Summit"

Postby Meldaria » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:42 pm

This is the current version and it has too many typos:

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A political and legally binding treaty that all nations must try to implement in their administrations and governments.

Political goals:

1. Reduce the worlds CO2 emissions by 20 percent before the year 2020.

2. Increase the green and clean energy industry in every nations larger than a population at 10 billion.

3. The government must take the initiative to educate and develop a more efficient green industry.

4. All rich nations must show solidarity to poor nations wich will be affected by the climate changes, in distributing ressouces and food.

5. All nations should implement green taxes on automobiles wich contributes to carbon-dioxide to the atmosphere.

6. All nations must build cricis centers to climate affected refugees.

Legally binding treaty:
Part one.

1. All nations must cooperate to follow the strict goal of reducing the worlds CO2 emissions by 20 percent, by the year 2020.

2. All nations should increase clean and egologically energy production by 15 percent, by the year 2030.

3. All nations must stick to the following legally binding treaty, even so if the administration will be electoral changed, and a new governmet will be implemented.

4. All nations must increase reseach funding by 25 percent, and ecourage scientific reseach on hybrid-cars.

5. Morale company taxes should be implemented on industries wich contributes with more than 3 ton CO2 emissions in a month, as a punishment.

NOTE that all the political goals are not binding as such, but should be interpretated as an initiative all governments should take.
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Edited version:

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This is a political and legally binding treaty that all nations must try to implement in their administrations and governments.

Political goals:

1. Reduce the worlds CO2 emissions by 20 percent before the year 2020.

2. Increase the green and clean energy industry in every nation with a population larger than 10 billion.

3. The government must take the initiative to educate and develop a more efficient green industry.

4. All extremely wealthy nations must show solidarity to poor nations which will be affected by the climate changes, in distributing resources and food.

5. All nations should implement green taxes on automobiles that emit greenhouse gases.

6. All nations must build crisis centers to climate affected refugees.

Legally binding treaty:
Part one.

1. All nations must cooperate to follow the strict goal of reducing the worlds CO2 emissions by 20 percent, by the year 2020.

2. All nations should increase clean and ecological energy production by 15 percent, by the year 2030.

3. All nations must stick to the following legally binding treaty, even if the administration is changed, and a new government is implemented.

4. All nations must increase research funding by 25 percent, and encourage scientific research on hybrid-cars.

5. Morale company taxes should be implemented on industries which contribute emit 3 tons or more of CO2 in a month.

Note that all the political goals are not binding as such, but should be interpreted as an initiative all governments should take.
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I fully support this proposal, but it has way too many grammar and spelling errors. If you see any issues with this re-draft or have any ideas to make it better please post your re-draft below. If the previous version passes we will repeal it. If it does not, somebody please submit this or whichever version is finalized within this thread.
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Postby Shanti Nilaya » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:06 am

His Holiness, the 44th Reincarnation of The Illuminated One, had this to comment:

Decay is inherent in all existing things. All things, including the Worlds, must come to an end. Suffering arises from thininkg we can save the Earth. It, too, must come into oblivion. Let go of fear, and suffering shall end.


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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:52 am

We cannot support any proposal which has at least half of its text as "political goals".
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:53 am

I'm not sure if 2020 counts as game mechanics since all members immediately come into compliance.
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Postby Burninati0n » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:56 am

Grays Harbor wrote:We cannot support any proposal which has at least half of its text as "political goals".

This.

We're going to politically reduce carbon emissions? What?

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Postby Bears Armed » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:59 am

Hr'rmm, and about which "world" is the author of this proposal talking?
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Postby A mean old man » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:11 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:I'm not sure if 2020 counts as game mechanics since all members immediately come into compliance.


I'm wondering if that could be counted as an illegal RL reference.
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Postby James Bluntus » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:55 am

1. Reduce the worlds CO2 emissions by 20 percent before the year 2020.

2. Increase the green and clean energy industry in every nation with a population larger than 10 billion.


1. 2020 does not exist in the game. My nation is way past 2020.
2. That would exclude anyone who hasn't been here for at least 4 years.

I can't support this proposal.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:28 pm

A mean old man wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:I'm not sure if 2020 counts as game mechanics since all members immediately come into compliance.


I'm wondering if that could be counted as an illegal RL reference.

The Immediate effect principle would be a valid reason, honoured ambassador.

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Postby Rutianas » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:39 pm

Oh, good. We're currently in the year 2386 and under 10 billion population. I guess this doesn't apply to us then. We kind of passed one mark already, and haven't reached the second. Also, why should we reduce our CO2 emissions by 20 percent? The plants kind of need that to survive.

In point 4, exactly why should rich nations have to help poorer ones? This isn't exactly the World Charity Assembly, you know.

We're definitely opposed.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:16 pm

Rutianas wrote:Oh, good. We're currently in the year 2386 and under 10 billion population. I guess this doesn't apply to us then. We kind of passed one mark already, and haven't reached the second. Also, why should we reduce our CO2 emissions by 20 percent? The plants kind of need that to survive.

In point 4, exactly why should rich nations have to help poorer ones? This isn't exactly the World Charity Assembly, you know.

We're definitely opposed.

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Its sounds like an attempt at social engineering and the pushing of the proposers own socialist agenda, at least to us.
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Postby Bazatia » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:30 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Rutianas wrote:Oh, good. We're currently in the year 2386 and under 10 billion population. I guess this doesn't apply to us then. We kind of passed one mark already, and haven't reached the second. Also, why should we reduce our CO2 emissions by 20 percent? The plants kind of need that to survive.

In point 4, exactly why should rich nations have to help poorer ones? This isn't exactly the World Charity Assembly, you know.

We're definitely opposed.

Paula Jenner, Rutianas Ambassador


Its sounds like an attempt at social engineering and the pushing of the proposers own socialist agenda, at least to us.


I think that this in an accurate statement. As for what I would change, I would get rid of the whole proposal.
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Postby Freeoplis » Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:35 pm

The following proposals make it compulsory for all Nations to make changes to their economy, taxation, infrastructure and amounts spent on research.

2. All nations should increase clean and ecological energy production by 15 percent, by the year 2030.
4. All nations must increase research funding by 25 percent, and encourage scientific research on hybrid-cars.
5. Morale company taxes should be implemented on industries which contribute emit 3 tons or more of CO2 in a month.

Not all Nations will be able to afford these changes due to already possessing a weak economy. An increase in taxation for high emission industries could cause industry closures. This would cause a loss of potential corporate tax revenues and increased unemployment. Increased funding in research may not be possible for many Nations who have limited means. In addition the cost of infrastructure needed to increase clean and ecological energy production may be impossible to meet for some Nations.

Effectively this could cause the bankrupting of those Nations who do not have a strong enough economy to survive such compulsory change. For these reasons The Republic of Freeoplis will be voting against any such proposal.

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Postby Arkinesia » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:31 pm

This proposal serves no purpose. No matter what is done, Arkinesia cannot and will not vote for this should it become a resolution in the queue.
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Postby Philimbesi » Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:22 am

Note that all the political goals are not binding as such, but should be interpreted as an initiative all governments should take.


yea, they are binding, that's what happens in the WA it get's passed we comply. I think there's enough stuff in here to make it at least improbable, if not flat out illegal. Plus there are still nations out there who are not of this world you speak of, and others that have no problems with their climates.
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Postby Esperantujo 2 » Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:33 pm

I see no point in 10 billion qualification.
In Esperantujo 2, cars are banned, except for foreign embassies by agreement. We would not be inclined to support a resolution which would mandate us to research a commodity which we do not have, and have no intention of having. "Vehicle" instead of " car" would be acceptable. WE have goods vehicles and buses.
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Postby Jeffro Topia » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:20 pm

I see no reason in this act what so ever. It would raise taxes which would hurt Jeffro Topia's economy. Also forcing wealthy nations to help poorer nations? A nation has the right to do with its money as it pleases and should not be forced to help anyone. Also with recent scandals in the "Climate Change" sector I am not convinced there is even a problem. There for IO would have to vote no on this if it came to a vote and would urge my fellow members to also vote no.

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Postby James Bluntus » Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:00 pm

I shall say it again since the author obviously ignored my earlier about 2020. Do not mention a year in your proposal.

Another of my comments was ignored also. Point 2 would exclude anyone who hasn't been here for at least 4 years.

Point 4: Why should I be forced to help poorer nations? That is something for the WA General Fund.

We will not support this while these clauses are in place.

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Postby The Palentine » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:11 am

I'll go even further than that old bean.....I won't support this useless drivel at all, clauses or no clauses.
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Postby Arkinesia » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:57 am

We were never invited to any summit. What's all this hubbub of a summit? Sounds more like silliness and putting on airs to me.
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