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Applebanian Drafting Room (All my proposals from now on)

Postby Applebania » Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:45 pm

The Applebanian Delegate sits down in his chair in his rather small office, lit by the light given off by a magitek generator. He began penning a list of proposals to write.

Conceptual:
Safe Starship Act (Category: IDK Strength: Mild)
Convention Against Hate Speech (Category: Moral Decency, Strength: Mild)
Sensible Limits on Pornography (Category: Moral Decency, Strength: Mild)
Laws and Conventions of War (Category: Human Rights, Moral Decency, International Security, or Global Disarmament. Strength: Strong)
Against the Trade of Illegal Narcotics (Category: Recreational Drug Use, Decision: Outlaw)
Unfair Dismissal Act (Category: Social Justice, Strength: Mild)

Legality-checking:

Drafting(MS Word):

Drafting(Forums):
Repeal "Read the Resolution Act"

Submitted:

Passed:
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:34 pm

Proposals should be put each in their own thread.
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Postby Defwa » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:51 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:Proposals should be put each in their own thread.

I like this idea. A great way to keep publically available notes, predraft phases, rp opportunities, and a table of contents for accomplishments.
I might do the same
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Postby Hakio » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:00 pm

Safe Starship Act (Category: IDK)

Ooh a space related proposal. :ugeek:
Our writing staff likes this idea very much.
Also we think that the category would be "International Security".
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Postby West Infinity » Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:05 pm

Hakio wrote:
Safe Starship Act (Category: IDK)
...snip/ Also we think that the category would be "International Security".


Well, that would have to depend exactly what it does, no? My first thought was that it's either Health or Environmental (since you want to make sure you're not, for example, getting fried with radiation or poisoned with toxins when you approach a ship's airlock, landing ramp, or engine room).

Please elaborate: what is your intent with this particular item, Ambassador?
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Postby Applebania » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:23 pm

Hakio wrote:
Safe Starship Act (Category: IDK)

Ooh a space related proposal. :ugeek:
Our writing staff likes this idea very much.
Also we think that the category would be "International Security".

Really? Thought that was just for military-related stuff.

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Postby Hirota » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:46 am

As Greys said, normally proposals should be kept in their own thread - it means it is easier to feedback on and improve, rather than getting tripped up in different topics.

If you are looking for a drafting room, can I suggest you use an offsite resource such as Google Keep, evernote, or one note? You could link to your resource in your signature if you really wanted or just outline the intended proposal ideas you have.

Post your draft here when it's ready to be looked over by the WA membership and to see if we can improve things.
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Postby Applebania » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:40 am

I will still make threads for my proposals, this'll just be to keep track of them, and announce them in the pre-drafting stage.

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Postby Applebania » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:47 pm

Added three new proposal to the conceptual stage.

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Postby West Infinity » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:16 pm

Applebania wrote:Safe Starship Act (Category: IDK Strength: Mild) Probably a great idea. What does it do? That'll determine the category (and somewhat vice versa)
Convention Against Hate Speech (Category: Moral Decency, Strength: Mild) Mmmmm, hard sell and maybe a bad idea, depending on its particulars
Sensible Limits on Pornography (Category: Moral Decency, Strength: Mild) Outlaw child porn? Great. More than that? Terrible.
Laws and Conventions of War (Category: Human Rights, Moral Decency, International Security, or Global Disarmament. Strength: Strong) Possibly a great idea, depending on its particulars.
International Criminal Court (Category: Political Stability, Strength: Mild) (Would this be legal?) Already been done (see here).
Against the Trade of Illegal Narcotics (Category: Recreational Drug Use, Decision: Outlaw) Hell no.
Condemn The Eternal Knights (Those f***ing hypocrites...) Hell yes. I don't know them, but everyone I ever met who called himself a "knight" has been an utter douchebag, so go for it.


This is quite an ambitious legislative agenda you've set up for yourself. I might take some time now and slowly concentrate on crafting the easiest, most modest of these into a working draft, and deliberately, methodically nudge it carefully toward submission (not too fast, now). I think the Safe Starship Act might fit that best.
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Postby Applebania » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:38 pm

West Infinity wrote:
Applebania wrote:Safe Starship Act (Category: IDK Strength: Mild) Probably a great idea. What does it do? That'll determine the category (and somewhat vice versa)
Convention Against Hate Speech (Category: Moral Decency, Strength: Mild) Mmmmm, hard sell and maybe a bad idea, depending on its particulars
Sensible Limits on Pornography (Category: Moral Decency, Strength: Mild) Outlaw child porn? Great. More than that? Terrible.
Laws and Conventions of War (Category: Human Rights, Moral Decency, International Security, or Global Disarmament. Strength: Strong) Possibly a great idea, depending on its particulars.
International Criminal Court (Category: Political Stability, Strength: Mild) (Would this be legal?) Already been done (see here).
Against the Trade of Illegal Narcotics (Category: Recreational Drug Use, Decision: Outlaw) Hell no.
Condemn The Eternal Knights (Those f***ing hypocrites...) Hell yes. I don't know them, but everyone I ever met who called himself a "knight" has been an utter douchebag, so go for it.


This is quite an ambitious legislative agenda you've set up for yourself. I might take some time now and slowly concentrate on crafting the easiest, most modest of these into a working draft, and deliberately, methodically nudge it carefully toward submission (not too fast, now). I think the Safe Starship Act might fit that best.


Safe Starship Act, along with Condemn TEK, is probably on top of my list. I've dropped International Criminal Court entirely. Laws and Conventions of War and the Moral Decency resolutions I'm going to be very careful about, and Against the Trade of Illegal Narcotics is probably going to be either not even drafted for months/years or dropped entirely.

Safe Starship Act would introduce regulations on the design (i.e. Having enough escape pods for an evacuation) and procedure (i.e. Checking all engines before takeoff.) of starships. What category would it fall into?

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Postby West Infinity » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:27 pm

Applebania wrote:Safe Starship Act would introduce regulations on the design (i.e. Having enough escape pods for an evacuation) and procedure (i.e. Checking all engines before takeoff.) of starships. What category would it fall into?


I think the closest is actually Human Rights or Social Justice, because the basic thing you're articulating is that people have a right to be safe on starships - but be prepared for an utterly MASSIVE challenge, both in the drafting chamber [forum] and behind-the-scenes challenges to its legality based on category, because Human Rights / Social Justice resolutions don't really impose the specific industry requirements that are the biggest piece of this resolution's effects. You might convince them to let you put it through under Environmental/Manufacturing, because it's mainly targeted at starship manufacturers; but honestly this seems homeless to me.

It would work better in that last category if you drafted it to be primarily concerned with environmental hazards, e.g. starship emissions (no radioactive exhaust discharged into planetary atmospheres, no venting toxic gases either out of or into the ship, anti-/exotic-matter containment systems require industry-standard best practices and specifications in manufacture, and oh yeah regular inspections). Then tack on the escape pod and emergency autopilot requirements as part of it.

But any way you go it'll be an uphill battle, just to warn you. Take a look at why the Consumer Product Safety resolution was repealed before you start doing this. That was under Social Justice.

Don't get discouraged despite all my dire warnings; just don't be disappointed if it's not that popular an idea. Maybe at some point the admins will introduce a "Consumer Rights" or "Individual Economic Freedoms" category - you never know.
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Postby Applebania » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:20 am

Added two new proposals to the list.

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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:21 am

OOC: I think you need to clear about what you want in this thread, because threads of this nature have historically not gone anywhere. Is this a private/closed thread for you to assemble your ideas as a notepad? Or is it somewhere for people to offer comments or even debate? Will you be creating new threads for individual drafts, or writing all of them here?

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Postby Applebania » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:23 am

The Dark Star Republic wrote:OOC: I think you need to clear about what you want in this thread, because threads of this nature have historically not gone anywhere. Is this a private/closed thread for you to assemble your ideas as a notepad? Or is it somewhere for people to offer comments or even debate? Will you be creating new threads for individual drafts, or writing all of them here?


1. Comments can be offered.
2. Will be making new threads for each proposal.

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Postby Wrapper » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:22 am

Applebania wrote:Drafting(MS Word):
Condemn Auralia

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You have fun with that one, Ambassador.

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Postby Applebania » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:32 am

Wrapper wrote:
Applebania wrote:Drafting(MS Word):
Condemn Auralia

:blink:

You have fun with that one, Ambassador.

Oh, I shall. It will be from behind a desk which I would have upended to avoid gunfire, but I will have fun with it!

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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:34 am

OOC: Any chance you can split off the SC stuff to the appropriate forum?

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Postby Applebania » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:04 am

The Dark Star Republic wrote:OOC: Any chance you can split off the SC stuff to the appropriate forum?


I might.

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Postby Hakio » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:36 am

"Good luch with the Safe Starship Act! We are very excited to see what your staff comes up with."

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Postby Rotwood » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:13 am

Applebania wrote:Repeal "Read the Resolution Act"

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:25 pm

"Why would you want to repeal Read the Resolution Act? That's one of the best resolutions we have!"

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Postby Applebania » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:02 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Why would you want to repeal Read the Resolution Act? That's one of the best resolutions we have!"

Because nearly everyone is noncompliant. While I acknowledge the good intention of that resolution, next to no-one, in fact, reads the resolution.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:14 pm

Applebania wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Why would you want to repeal Read the Resolution Act? That's one of the best resolutions we have!"

Because nearly everyone is noncompliant. While I acknowledge the good intention of that resolution, next to no-one, in fact, reads the resolution.

"Compliance is unavoidable, ambassador. The WA gnomes force you into capitulation to the law."

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Postby Applebania » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:33 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Applebania wrote:Because nearly everyone is noncompliant. While I acknowledge the good intention of that resolution, next to no-one, in fact, reads the resolution.

"Compliance is unavoidable, ambassador. The WA gnomes force you into capitulation to the law."

I know that, but that doesn't stop the resolution reading office from not *EXPLETIVE DELETED*ing doing their job! I'll maintain that the RTR act is complete ineffective, thanks to the lemmings.

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