[DRAFT] Unborn Patients Protection Act

[Most Holy Terra]

As per compromise discussed in the Repeal Reproductive Freedoms thread.

Unborn Patients Protection Act
A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.

Category: Health
Area of Effect: Healthcare
Proposed by: Most Holy Terra

The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING the controversy that is the topic of abortion, and

NOTING that many individuals, and nations have extreme philosophical and religious objections to the practice.

UPHOLDING the right to bodily integrity of any and all persons.

WILLING to extend this right to unborn persons,

PROPOSES the following:

[*]The hastening development and deployment of procedures and Artificial Womb Technlology, to be an international standard, unencumbered by any sort of intellectual property.

[*]The creation of the International Unborn Medical Devices Fund, to be funded by optional contributions to facilitate the development and deployment of aforementioned medical procedures and technologies.

And in addition,

MANDATES that any and all procedures for termination of pregnancy be carried out utilizing methods that preserves the life of the unborn patient, excepting such cases as mandated under existing WA Resolutions.

WHILE NOTING that accidental failure of such a procedure, which results in the death of the unborn patient, is not criminalized so long as such procedure is performed in good faith.

[Separatist Peoples]

"No. We don't view abortion as murder, and are not willing to expend the extra money on the technology when there is no serious contention for us."

[Most Holy Terra]

"No. We don't view abortion as murder, and are not willing to expend the extra money on the technology when there is no serious contention for us."

"You are not required to spend the extra money on the technology, you are only required to use it."

[Shazbotdom]

"No. We don't view abortion as murder, and are not willing to expend the extra money on the technology when there is no serious contention for us."

"You are not required to spend the extra money on the technology, you are only required to use it."

"And how would someone use the technology without paying for it? Has the Ambassador thought this through? To use Technology one would have to PAY for aforementioned technology. If a Nation does not want to spend the money to use it, then that means they don't want to use it. Unless the Delegation from The Holy Empire of Most Holy Terra would be willing to fit the bill for those nations who do not want to spend the money to get aforementioned technology."

Mr. Antuan D. Flaberghast
Ambassador to the World Assembly

[Rotwood]

We could be wrong, but we feel you would probably have to repeal a couple of resolutions in order to get this through.

[Starkmoor]

I would vehemently oppose this backdoor attempt to recognize a fetus as a human being and assault on national sovereignty.

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MANDATES that any and all procedures for termination of pregnancy be carried out utilizing methods that preserves the life of the unborn patient.

In what world is this clause a compromise? Also, it violates On Abortion.

[Separatist Peoples]

"No. We don't view abortion as murder, and are not willing to expend the extra money on the technology when there is no serious contention for us."

"You are not required to spend the extra money on the technology, you are only required to use it."

"Developing, installing, and using such technology will cost money. No."

[Most Holy Terra]

MANDATES that any and all procedures for termination of pregnancy be carried out utilizing methods that preserves the life of the unborn patient.

In what world is this clause a compromise? Also, it violates On Abortion.

My mistake then, a lapse in judgement made me occur that "On Abortion" had been repealed.

EDIT: I have amended the proposal to take GAR #128 into account.

[Most Holy Terra]

"You are not required to spend the extra money on the technology, you are only required to use it."

"Developing, installing, and using such technology will cost money. No."

Who said your money? Discussions with pro-life nations and NGOs have made it clear that they are more than willing to fund implementation themselves.

[Linux and the X]

"Developing, installing, and using such technology will cost money. No."

Who said your money? Discussions with pro-life nations and NGOs have made it clear that they are more than willing to fund implementation themselves.

You would be willing to pay for its development, installation, doctor training, and use?

Anyway, please do submit this exactly as it is.

[Separatist Peoples]

"Developing, installing, and using such technology will cost money. No."

Who said your money? Discussions with pro-life nations and NGOs have made it clear that they are more than willing to fund implementation themselves.

"The cost for doing so in every hospital in every member state is far more then NGOs are going to be able to fund, and we certainly have no interest in spending money on this dreck. I'm inclined to think that most nations would agree with my frugality. No."

[Most Holy Terra]

Who said your money? Discussions with pro-life nations and NGOs have made it clear that they are more than willing to fund implementation themselves.

"The cost for doing so in every hospital in every member state is far more then NGOs are going to be able to fund, and we certainly have no interest in spending money on this dreck. I'm inclined to think that most nations would agree with my frugality. No."

"Who said every hospital? Are pregnancy-terminating procedures not often times performed at specialty clinics? Compliance with the proposal only requires ready access to the procedure: not access at every medical facility. As we predict that those nations who would protest the procedure (or would be unable to fund the procedure) would be small, this could be readily accomplished."

[Separatist Peoples]

"The cost for doing so in every hospital in every member state is far more then NGOs are going to be able to fund, and we certainly have no interest in spending money on this dreck. I'm inclined to think that most nations would agree with my frugality. No."

"Who said every hospital? Are pregnancy-terminating procedures not often times performed at specialty clinics? Compliance with the proposal only requires ready access to the procedure: not access at every medical facility. As we predict that those nations who would protest the procedure (or would be unable to fund the procedure) would be small, this could be readily accomplished."

"So, we need to either restrict access dramatically to abortions, or re-outfit every hospital and clinic that used to be able to provide abortions with this equipment. Still not feasible. No."

[Most Holy Terra]

"Who said every hospital? Are pregnancy-terminating procedures not often times performed at specialty clinics? Compliance with the proposal only requires ready access to the procedure: not access at every medical facility. As we predict that those nations who would protest the procedure (or would be unable to fund the procedure) would be small, this could be readily accomplished."

"So, we need to either restrict access dramatically to abortions, or re-outfit every hospital and clinic that used to be able to provide abortions with this equipment. Still not feasible. No."

"Very feasible. As the reference specification is unencumbered by intellectual property rights, it could be easily manufactured. Most Holy Terra hopes that Separatist Peoples is familiar with the concept of economies of scale."

"Not to mention that there are quite a few nations which span multiple galaxies: their tiny manufacturing excess could easily fit the needs of most nations unable or unwilling to fund compliance themselves"

[Separatist Peoples]

"So, we need to either restrict access dramatically to abortions, or re-outfit every hospital and clinic that used to be able to provide abortions with this equipment. Still not feasible. No."

"Very feasible. As the reference specification is unencumbered by intellectual property rights, it could be easily manufactured. Most Holy Terra hopes that Separatist Peoples is familiar with the concept of economies of scale."

"Of course. Clearly you've failed to consider the cost of development, installation, operation, maintenance, training, etc. Property rights make a small percentage of the costs of medical equipment and its' operation. That's why the medical field is so specialized. But, surely, you know that, being the expert on the technology here."

[Most Holy Terra]

"Very feasible. As the reference specification is unencumbered by intellectual property rights, it could be easily manufactured. Most Holy Terra hopes that Separatist Peoples is familiar with the concept of economies of scale."

"Of course. Clearly you've failed to consider the cost of development, installation, operation, maintenance, training, etc. Property rights make a small percentage of the costs of medical equipment and its' operation. That's why the medical field is so specialized. But, surely, you know that, being the expert on the technology here."

"Well, to be fair, most medical procedures in the Imperium are automated these days. Development has already been completed. Installation is a one time cost, that could be borne by the international community. Maintenance would be no more unreasonable than existing medical equipment."

[Separatist Peoples]

"Of course. Clearly you've failed to consider the cost of development, installation, operation, maintenance, training, etc. Property rights make a small percentage of the costs of medical equipment and its' operation. That's why the medical field is so specialized. But, surely, you know that, being the expert on the technology here."

"Well, to be fair, most medical procedures in the Imperium are automated these days. Development has already been completed. Installation is a one time cost, that could be borne by the international community. Maintenance would be no more unreasonable than existing medical equipment."

"Thats wonderful for the Imperium. That is not the case everywhere. Just because it works for you doesn't mean it works for the other 99% of members. I fail to see how C.D.S.P. money ought to go to pay for anybody elses' hospital upgrades. It simply isn't our problem."

[Most Holy Terra]

"Well, to be fair, most medical procedures in the Imperium are automated these days. Development has already been completed. Installation is a one time cost, that could be borne by the international community. Maintenance would be no more unreasonable than existing medical equipment."

"Thats wonderful for the Imperium. That is not the case everywhere. Just because it works for you doesn't mean it works for the other 99% of members. I fail to see how C.D.S.P. money ought to go to pay for anybody elses' hospital upgrades. It simply isn't our problem."

"Nobody is forcing you to contribute to the international fund. Note the operative word 'optional'. The technology exists today such that a rapid roll-out of this technology and procedures could be done. I fail to understand your opposition, given the potential this proposal has to end the abortion debate for all time."

[Separatist Peoples]

"Nobody is forcing you to contribute to the international fund. Note the operative word 'optional'. The technology exists today such that a rapid roll-out of this technology and procedures could be done. I fail to understand your opposition, given the potential this proposal has to end the abortion debate for all time."

"You just tried."

"Well, to be fair, most medical procedures in the Imperium are automated these days. Development has already been completed. Installation is a one time cost, that could be borne by the international community. Maintenance would be no more unreasonable than existing medical equipment."

"This isn't optional, since nations are required to keep an aborted infant alive. Use of the technology is, then necessary to ensure compliance. So, it isn't optional."

[Most Holy Terra]

"Nobody is forcing you to contribute to the international fund. Note the operative word 'optional'. The technology exists today such that a rapid roll-out of this technology and procedures could be done. I fail to understand your opposition, given the potential this proposal has to end the abortion debate for all time."

"You just tried."

"Well, to be fair, most medical procedures in the Imperium are automated these days. Development has already been completed. Installation is a one time cost, that could be borne by the international community. Maintenance would be no more unreasonable than existing medical equipment."

"This isn't optional, since nations are required to keep an aborted infant alive. Use of the technology is, then necessary to ensure compliance. So, it isn't optional."

"Sorry, I am confused, do you not have a private sector? Do NGOs not exist? And what part of 'optional' contributions to an international fund are so hard to comprehend?"

[Goddess Relief Office]

Not another abortion thread. Must we talk about this every week?

[Separatist Peoples]

"You just tried."


"This isn't optional, since nations are required to keep an aborted infant alive. Use of the technology is, then necessary to ensure compliance. So, it isn't optional."

"Sorry, I am confused, do you not have a private sector? Do NGOs not exist? And what part of 'optional' contributions to an international fund are so hard to comprehend?"

"Optional contributions won't be enough when most nations wont be willing to fund other nations medical facilities, much like the C.D.S.P. is not. NGOs won't have the spending power of a large national government. Not all nations have private sectors. Care to try again?"

[Most Holy Terra]

"Sorry, I am confused, do you not have a private sector? Do NGOs not exist? And what part of 'optional' contributions to an international fund are so hard to comprehend?"

"Optional contributions won't be enough when most nations wont be willing to fund other nations medical facilities, much like the C.D.S.P. is not. NGOs won't have the spending power of a large national government. Not all nations have private sectors. Care to try again?"

"Nobody is requiring you to fund anything. Nor would this be funded entirely by NGOs. There are nations that are willing to not only implement, but pay for implementation in other nations. The cost to the C.D.S.P. would be negligible."

[Separatist Peoples]

"Nobody is requiring you to fund anything. Nor would this be funded entirely by NGOs. There are nations that are willing to not only implement, but pay for implementation in other nations. The cost to the C.D.S.P. would be negligible."

"You clearly underestimate the cost of this undertaking, or overestimate the spending power of NGOs relative to the requirements of 17,000 nations. Quite frankly, I can't tell which delusion you're suffering from on this. Besides, I hardly see why we should support this invasion of our national policy. The C.D.S.P. allows abortion. I don't see how what we do with lumps of tissue is any of your business."