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Should the last clause "Forbids any nation to discriminate against anyone..." be striken?

Yes, strike it
20
80%
No, don't strike it
5
20%
 
Total votes : 25

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West Angola
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Posts: 1460
Founded: Dec 15, 2011
Left-wing Utopia

Postby West Angola » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:04 pm

"The issue with your definitions is that they espouse an MT view of firearms, not taking into account PMT and FT views, which make use of energy weapons, railguns, and the like."
Economic Left/Right: -4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.95
Fourth Place: Cup of Harmony 59; Runner-Up: Cup of Harmony 55; Champion: Cup of Harmony 57

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New Molsona
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Founded: Sep 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby New Molsona » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:05 pm

West Angola wrote:"The issue with your definitions is that they espouse an MT view of firearms, not taking into account PMT and FT views, which make use of energy weapons, railguns, and the like."

As Molsona is an MT nation, we don't know anything about FT or PMT weapons.
Pro: Republican Party (US), Roman Catholic Church, United States, Tea Party, Constitution Party, conservatism, democracy, Pro-life, capitalism, militarism, gun rights.
Anti: Abortion, gay "marriage", liberals, Barack Obama, racism, Democratic Party, communism, socialism, Obamacare, secularism, "War on Christmas", Islam, atheism, paganism, North Korea, Iran.
"The American dream is not that every man must be level with every other man. The American dream is that every man must be free to become whatever God intends he should become."
"The Constitution was never meant to prevent people from praying; its declared purpose was to protect their freedom to pray."

-Both quotes are from Ronald Reagan

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Artstotszka
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Posts: 64
Founded: Oct 04, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Artstotszka » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:06 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Meritocratic States wrote:
"I highly doubt there is even anything we can do. If the Molsonian Ambassador is willing to embarrass his country with a second failed resolution, then that is his prerogative." stood Representative Hilda Thorstein, straightening her skirt before walking towards the door. "I will be at the bar."

Ambassador Tislev motioned towards Ms. Thorstein. "I would like a drink too, my life is just appalling right now."


Ambassador Bazhenov follows the ambassadors out of the meeting, mumbling something about "a waste of time"
Papers, Please
Proud Citizen of Audax

I support thermonuclear warfare. Do you?
Skeckoa wrote:Maybe start a rumor that there is oil on the moon. That would be a race.
West Angola wrote:The West Angolan Ambassador coughs, cleans his glasses, then coughs again, "Ambassador, did you just use the word "hashtag" in a General Assembly debate?"

Bralia wrote:
American Union wrote:lol k.

Wow, what a productive post! I've never seen such a post of such quality before. I tip my hat to you, sir, your clearly stated argument has greatly moved me.

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Meritocratic States
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Posts: 6154
Founded: May 17, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Meritocratic States » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:06 pm

West Angola wrote:"The issue with your definitions is that they espouse an MT view of firearms, not taking into account PMT and FT views, which make use of energy weapons, railguns, and the like."


"As it happened, the Meritocratic States is beginning to phase out ammunition in favour of ammunition blocks where the weapon simply shaves a grain-sized ammunition before being fired by a kinetic accelerator." Representative Thorstein, pointed out before leaving.
Last edited by Meritocratic States on Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
This nation is now being retired.
Good-night, sweet prince.
Hello, Gristol-Serkonos.

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The Republic of Mattlandia
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Posts: 1141
Founded: Jan 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Republic of Mattlandia » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:06 pm

Athenoi wrote:
The Republic of Mattlandia wrote:THIS IS LITERALLY THE BEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO THIS TRAIN WRECK OF A THREAD


OOC: What is?

IC:

Myrtis takes the needle out of the wall and jams it into the New Molsonan Ambassador's shoulder, somewhat lightly.

"Never mind." she says. "Catholics are really my taste, they can't do much."

She walks away and drinks again, and says "However, the stripping ambassador may be."


BOW CHICKA WOW WOW
My country is augmented.

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West Angola
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Posts: 1460
Founded: Dec 15, 2011
Left-wing Utopia

Postby West Angola » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:07 pm

New Molsona wrote:As Molsona is an MT nation, we don't know anything about FT or PMT weapons.

"Well then, Ambassador, that is your problem. We suggest you familiarize yourself with their cultures and technology so as to improve your proposal writing skills."
Economic Left/Right: -4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.95
Fourth Place: Cup of Harmony 59; Runner-Up: Cup of Harmony 55; Champion: Cup of Harmony 57

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Separatist Peoples
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Posts: 16989
Founded: Feb 17, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:08 pm

New Molsona wrote:
West Angola wrote:"The issue with your definitions is that they espouse an MT view of firearms, not taking into account PMT and FT views, which make use of energy weapons, railguns, and the like."

As Molsona is an MT nation, we don't know anything about FT or PMT weapons.


The WAHQ lies at an inter-dimensional flux point. We have to take into account those nations of differing technological advancement.

OOC: IC ignorance isn't an excuse to ignore a potential flaw in a resolution. Resolutions have to at least try to cover time periods equally, no matter how much it may be geared to MT or PMT.

His Worshipfulness, the Most Unscrupulous, Plainly Deceitful, Dissembling, Strategicly Calculating Lord GA Secretariat, Authority on All Existence, Arbiter of Right, Toxic Globalist Dog, Dark Psychic Vampire, and Chief Populist Elitist!
Separatist Peoples should RESIGN!

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New Molsona
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Posts: 969
Founded: Sep 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby New Molsona » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:10 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
New Molsona wrote:As Molsona is an MT nation, we don't know anything about FT or PMT weapons.


The WAHQ lies at an inter-dimensional flux point. We have to take into account those nations of differing technological advancement.

OOC: IC ignorance isn't an excuse to ignore a potential flaw in a resolution. Resolutions have to at least try to cover time periods equally, no matter how much it may be geared to MT or PMT.

Any suggestions on how I can fix this
Pro: Republican Party (US), Roman Catholic Church, United States, Tea Party, Constitution Party, conservatism, democracy, Pro-life, capitalism, militarism, gun rights.
Anti: Abortion, gay "marriage", liberals, Barack Obama, racism, Democratic Party, communism, socialism, Obamacare, secularism, "War on Christmas", Islam, atheism, paganism, North Korea, Iran.
"The American dream is not that every man must be level with every other man. The American dream is that every man must be free to become whatever God intends he should become."
"The Constitution was never meant to prevent people from praying; its declared purpose was to protect their freedom to pray."

-Both quotes are from Ronald Reagan

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Athenoi
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Founded: Sep 21, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Athenoi » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:12 pm

New Molsona wrote:
West Angola wrote:"The issue with your definitions is that they espouse an MT view of firearms, not taking into account PMT and FT views, which make use of energy weapons, railguns, and the like."

As Molsona is an MT nation, we don't know anything about FT or PMT weapons.


"It is advised that you do so. My benefactors have antimatter bombs, and will use them." Myrtis said in a serious tone. "Also, ambassador of the Sepratist Peoples, are you free this weekend?"
Economic Left/Right: -4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

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Separatist Peoples
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Posts: 16989
Founded: Feb 17, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:13 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:
The WAHQ lies at an inter-dimensional flux point. We have to take into account those nations of differing technological advancement.

OOC: IC ignorance isn't an excuse to ignore a potential flaw in a resolution. Resolutions have to at least try to cover time periods equally, no matter how much it may be geared to MT or PMT.

Any suggestions on how I can fix this


Include a definition of firearms or arms in general that covers all those bases. Or expand the resolution to include them and treat them differently. You have several options, ambassador. *twerks again*

His Worshipfulness, the Most Unscrupulous, Plainly Deceitful, Dissembling, Strategicly Calculating Lord GA Secretariat, Authority on All Existence, Arbiter of Right, Toxic Globalist Dog, Dark Psychic Vampire, and Chief Populist Elitist!
Separatist Peoples should RESIGN!

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Artstotszka
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Posts: 64
Founded: Oct 04, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Artstotszka » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:13 pm

Athenoi wrote:
OOC: What is?

IC:

Myrtis takes the needle out of the wall and jams it into the New Molsonan Ambassador's shoulder, somewhat lightly.

"Never mind." she says. "Catholics are really my taste, they can't do much."

She walks away and drinks again, and says "However, the stripping ambassador may be."


Ambassador Bazhenov looks up from her beer, winks to the Ambassador and says "that can be arranged..."
Papers, Please
Proud Citizen of Audax

I support thermonuclear warfare. Do you?
Skeckoa wrote:Maybe start a rumor that there is oil on the moon. That would be a race.
West Angola wrote:The West Angolan Ambassador coughs, cleans his glasses, then coughs again, "Ambassador, did you just use the word "hashtag" in a General Assembly debate?"

Bralia wrote:
American Union wrote:lol k.

Wow, what a productive post! I've never seen such a post of such quality before. I tip my hat to you, sir, your clearly stated argument has greatly moved me.

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The Republic of Mattlandia
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1141
Founded: Jan 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Republic of Mattlandia » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:16 pm

Artstotszka wrote:
Athenoi wrote:
OOC: What is?

IC:

Myrtis takes the needle out of the wall and jams it into the New Molsonan Ambassador's shoulder, somewhat lightly.

"Never mind." she says. "Catholics are really my taste, they can't do much."

She walks away and drinks again, and says "However, the stripping ambassador may be."


Ambassador Bazhenov looks up from her beer, winks to the Ambassador and says "that can be arranged..."


Ah, so aren't you the matchmaker? Ambassador Page says.
My country is augmented.

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New Molsona
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Posts: 969
Founded: Sep 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby New Molsona » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:16 pm

Athenoi wrote:
New Molsona wrote:As Molsona is an MT nation, we don't know anything about FT or PMT weapons.


"It is advised that you do so. My benefactors have antimatter bombs, and will use them." Myrtis said in a serious tone. "Also, ambassador of the Sepratist Peoples, are you free this weekend?"

Molsona total military: 4,608,000
Athenoi total military: 1,947,600

Stats according to NS tracker.

Any further threat of war or physical attacks on government officials will be met with force.

"Now would someone get me a lager, this is going to be a long night."
Last edited by New Molsona on Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:17 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Pro: Republican Party (US), Roman Catholic Church, United States, Tea Party, Constitution Party, conservatism, democracy, Pro-life, capitalism, militarism, gun rights.
Anti: Abortion, gay "marriage", liberals, Barack Obama, racism, Democratic Party, communism, socialism, Obamacare, secularism, "War on Christmas", Islam, atheism, paganism, North Korea, Iran.
"The American dream is not that every man must be level with every other man. The American dream is that every man must be free to become whatever God intends he should become."
"The Constitution was never meant to prevent people from praying; its declared purpose was to protect their freedom to pray."

-Both quotes are from Ronald Reagan

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Athenoi
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Posts: 96
Founded: Sep 21, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Athenoi » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:18 pm

Artstotszka wrote:
Athenoi wrote:
OOC: What is?

IC:

Myrtis takes the needle out of the wall and jams it into the New Molsonan Ambassador's shoulder, somewhat lightly.

"Never mind." she says. "Catholics are really my taste, they can't do much."

She walks away and drinks again, and says "However, the stripping ambassador may be."


Ambassador Bazhenov looks up from her beer, winks to the Ambassador and says "that can be arranged..."


"Maybe." Myrtis says "If anything, you could teach the Molsonan some lessons."
Economic Left/Right: -4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

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The Republic of Mattlandia
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Posts: 1141
Founded: Jan 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Republic of Mattlandia » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:18 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Athenoi wrote:
"It is advised that you do so. My benefactors have antimatter bombs, and will use them." Myrtis said in a serious tone. "Also, ambassador of the Sepratist Peoples, are you free this weekend?"

Molsona total military: 4,608,000
Athenoi total military: 1,947,600

Stats according to NS tracker.

Any further threat of war or physical attacks on government officials will be met with force.


Ambassador slaps Molsona's Ambassador repeatedly with a shit-eating grin on his face.
My country is augmented.

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Meritocratic States
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Posts: 6154
Founded: May 17, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Meritocratic States » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:19 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Athenoi wrote:
"It is advised that you do so. My benefactors have antimatter bombs, and will use them." Myrtis said in a serious tone. "Also, ambassador of the Sepratist Peoples, are you free this weekend?"

Molsona total military: 4,608,000
Athenoi total military: 1,947,600

Stats according to NS tracker.

Any further threat of war or physical attacks on government officials will be met with force.

"Now would someone get me a lager, this is going to be a long night.

OOC:
Note that certain nations do NOT acknowledge NS tracker in the name of creative freedom. Not to mention that Athenoi is the delegate for the The Roman Imperial Republic.
Last edited by Meritocratic States on Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
This nation is now being retired.
Good-night, sweet prince.
Hello, Gristol-Serkonos.

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West Angola
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Posts: 1460
Founded: Dec 15, 2011
Left-wing Utopia

Postby West Angola » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:19 pm

New Molsona wrote:Molsona total military: 4,608,000
Athenoi total military: 1,947,600

Stats according to NS tracker.

Any further threat of war or physical attacks on government officials will be met with force.

"Now would someone get me a lager, this is going to be a long night."

"You're one to speak of threats, Ambassador, and I'm afraid I'm...fresh out of alcohol."

(Ambassador Walker hides a bottle of Vodka behind his leg)
Economic Left/Right: -4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.95
Fourth Place: Cup of Harmony 59; Runner-Up: Cup of Harmony 55; Champion: Cup of Harmony 57

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Athenoi
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Founded: Sep 21, 2013
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Postby Athenoi » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:19 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Athenoi wrote:
"It is advised that you do so. My benefactors have antimatter bombs, and will use them." Myrtis said in a serious tone. "Also, ambassador of the Sepratist Peoples, are you free this weekend?"

Molsona total military: 4,608,000
Athenoi total military: 1,947,600

Stats according to NS tracker.

Any further threat of war or physical attacks on government officials will be met with force.

"Now would someone get me a lager, this is going to be a long night."


"I said my benefactor, not my people." Myrtis says angrily. "Try again."
Economic Left/Right: -4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

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New Molsona
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Posts: 969
Founded: Sep 18, 2013
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Postby New Molsona » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:19 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
New Molsona wrote:Any suggestions on how I can fix this


Include a definition of firearms or arms in general that covers all those bases. Or expand the resolution to include them and treat them differently. You have several options, ambassador. *twerks again*

Dude stop twerking. It's just disgusting. Could you help write a definition that covers all these bases.
Pro: Republican Party (US), Roman Catholic Church, United States, Tea Party, Constitution Party, conservatism, democracy, Pro-life, capitalism, militarism, gun rights.
Anti: Abortion, gay "marriage", liberals, Barack Obama, racism, Democratic Party, communism, socialism, Obamacare, secularism, "War on Christmas", Islam, atheism, paganism, North Korea, Iran.
"The American dream is not that every man must be level with every other man. The American dream is that every man must be free to become whatever God intends he should become."
"The Constitution was never meant to prevent people from praying; its declared purpose was to protect their freedom to pray."

-Both quotes are from Ronald Reagan

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New Molsona
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Posts: 969
Founded: Sep 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby New Molsona » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:20 pm

Athenoi wrote:
Artstotszka wrote:
Ambassador Bazhenov looks up from her beer, winks to the Ambassador and says "that can be arranged..."


"Maybe." Myrtis says "If anything, you could teach the Molsonan some lessons."

I know how to have sex, I have 4 kids.
Pro: Republican Party (US), Roman Catholic Church, United States, Tea Party, Constitution Party, conservatism, democracy, Pro-life, capitalism, militarism, gun rights.
Anti: Abortion, gay "marriage", liberals, Barack Obama, racism, Democratic Party, communism, socialism, Obamacare, secularism, "War on Christmas", Islam, atheism, paganism, North Korea, Iran.
"The American dream is not that every man must be level with every other man. The American dream is that every man must be free to become whatever God intends he should become."
"The Constitution was never meant to prevent people from praying; its declared purpose was to protect their freedom to pray."

-Both quotes are from Ronald Reagan

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Separatist Peoples
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 16989
Founded: Feb 17, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:20 pm

Athenoi wrote:
New Molsona wrote:As Molsona is an MT nation, we don't know anything about FT or PMT weapons.


"It is advised that you do so. My benefactors have antimatter bombs, and will use them." Myrtis said in a serious tone. "Also, ambassador of the Sepratist Peoples, are you free this weekend?"


"Benjamin Bell, at your service, madam," says Bell, leaning down from the desk and offering a hand. "and thank you, ladies! I'll be here at the WAHQ all week!"

His Worshipfulness, the Most Unscrupulous, Plainly Deceitful, Dissembling, Strategicly Calculating Lord GA Secretariat, Authority on All Existence, Arbiter of Right, Toxic Globalist Dog, Dark Psychic Vampire, and Chief Populist Elitist!
Separatist Peoples should RESIGN!

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The Republic of Mattlandia
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1141
Founded: Jan 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Republic of Mattlandia » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:22 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Athenoi wrote:
"It is advised that you do so. My benefactors have antimatter bombs, and will use them." Myrtis said in a serious tone. "Also, ambassador of the Sepratist Peoples, are you free this weekend?"


"Benjamin Bell, at your service, madam," says Bell, leaning down from the desk and offering a hand. "and thank you, ladies! I'll be here at the WAHQ all week!"


"Goodnight everybody!"
My country is augmented.

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Separatist Peoples
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 16989
Founded: Feb 17, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:24 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:
Include a definition of firearms or arms in general that covers all those bases. Or expand the resolution to include them and treat them differently. You have several options, ambassador. *twerks again*

Dude stop twerking. It's just disgusting. Could you help write a definition that covers all these bases.


"With that attitude? Hmm. I suppose I could be magnanimous, despite your insults to my otherwise popular performances. I'll be happy to look over and critique any definitions you come up with. Unfortunately, you're not going to be able to easily separate railguns from crossbows."

Looking over at ambassador Page, Bell says, "Goodnight? I haven't even warmed up my Red Pen of Revisions."

His Worshipfulness, the Most Unscrupulous, Plainly Deceitful, Dissembling, Strategicly Calculating Lord GA Secretariat, Authority on All Existence, Arbiter of Right, Toxic Globalist Dog, Dark Psychic Vampire, and Chief Populist Elitist!
Separatist Peoples should RESIGN!

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The Republic of Mattlandia
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1141
Founded: Jan 09, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Republic of Mattlandia » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:25 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
New Molsona wrote:Dude stop twerking. It's just disgusting. Could you help write a definition that covers all these bases.


"With that attitude? Hmm. I suppose I could be magnanimous, despite your insults to my otherwise popular performances. I'll be happy to look over and critique any definitions you come up with. Unfortunately, you're not going to be able to easily separate railguns from crossbows."

Looking over at ambassador Page, Bell says, "Goodnight? I haven't even warmed up my Red Pen of Revisions."


No, I'm just quoting Animaniacs.
My country is augmented.

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New Molsona
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Posts: 969
Founded: Sep 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby New Molsona » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:26 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
New Molsona wrote:Dude stop twerking. It's just disgusting. Could you help write a definition that covers all these bases.


"With that attitude? Hmm. I suppose I could be magnanimous, despite your insults to my otherwise popular performances. I'll be happy to look over and critique any definitions you come up with. Unfortunately, you're not going to be able to easily separate railguns from crossbows."

Looking over at ambassador Page, Bell says, "Goodnight? I haven't even warmed up my Red Pen of Revisions."

I have no knowledge of weapons that do not exist yet, you're going to need to help with those definitions
Pro: Republican Party (US), Roman Catholic Church, United States, Tea Party, Constitution Party, conservatism, democracy, Pro-life, capitalism, militarism, gun rights.
Anti: Abortion, gay "marriage", liberals, Barack Obama, racism, Democratic Party, communism, socialism, Obamacare, secularism, "War on Christmas", Islam, atheism, paganism, North Korea, Iran.
"The American dream is not that every man must be level with every other man. The American dream is that every man must be free to become whatever God intends he should become."
"The Constitution was never meant to prevent people from praying; its declared purpose was to protect their freedom to pray."

-Both quotes are from Ronald Reagan

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