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Repeal GA Resolution #266, "Chemical Weapons Protocol"

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The Dourian Embassy
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Postby The Dourian Embassy » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:30 am

Talkistan wrote:Yeah, but it hadn't been ruled that a repeal would be illegal because it attacked definition (or lack thereof), so it's still a precedent.


Just to be clear, attacking a definition is and always has been fine. It's a integral part of the resolution in question.

Definitions close loopholes, which are themselves good reasons for repeals, but a flawed definition(rather than an insufficent one) is still a problem inasmuch as it pertains to the content of the proposal.

The issue I, the original author, the mods, and goddamned near everyone else had with this was that it attacked the resolution for it's definitions being lacking(rather than the alternative and more acceptable reasons of going too far or just being incorrect). That's a wrongheaded approach to this, and I'm glad to see it failed.

That said, my opposition to this repeal is not opposition to any repeal of this, for obvious reasons.
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Postby Sciongrad » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:07 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:
Sciongrad wrote:This repeal is shamefully weak. I'm not a fan of GAR#266, but I can't, in good faith, support something with so little merit. The only thing that this repeal articulates successfully is the author's inability to use either a dictionary or context.


You're not a fan? Really? :(

You should be, you helped write over half the damn thing. :hug:


I'm discontented with the concessions you made, which I think diluted the value of the resolution. A resolution on the topic is better than no resolution on the topic, but I'd prefer something stronger.
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Postby Paulsland » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:29 pm

So, there was recently a sudden and unexpected death to someone close to me, that's why I didn't submit a new proposal for repeal yet. I have started the drafting process and I'll be consulting with some nations on how is best to go about this. Obviously, I don't have a whole lot of time right now to devote to this, but I'm still dedicated to seeing this repealed as well as going through the log of law to look for other resolutions that should be repealed. I'd prefer to be more known for removing law then creating new ones. It's a bit of a cliche in Libertarian circles, but less law is good law. Good day.

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Postby Chester Pearson » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:06 pm

Paulsland wrote:but less law is good law. Good day.


:rofl: Then why the hell did you even join The World Assembly? You realize passing laws is what we do around here right?
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:54 am

The Dourian Embassy wrote:This is a bad repeal. I'm not saying that a repeal isn't needed, this just ain't it.


The Chemical Weapons Protocol is a bad resolution. It saw a progressive role for imperialism and that's why I opposed the resolution. I would like to see this repealed and not replaced with another social-imperialist resolution!
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Postby Lun Noir » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:34 am

Parti Ouvrier wrote:
The Dourian Embassy wrote:This is a bad repeal. I'm not saying that a repeal isn't needed, this just ain't it.


The Chemical Weapons Protocol is a bad resolution. It saw a progressive role for imperialism and that's why I opposed the resolution. I would like to see this repealed and not replaced with another social-imperialist resolution!

"...A progressive role for imperialism..."

What?

Your comment makes no sense. Did you forget to read the protocol? If anything, it better empowers defending nations, and would be (on those grounds) considered anti-imperialist.
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:44 pm

Lun Noir wrote:
Parti Ouvrier wrote:
The Chemical Weapons Protocol is a bad resolution. It saw a progressive role for imperialism and that's why I opposed the resolution. I would like to see this repealed and not replaced with another social-imperialist resolution!

"...A progressive role for imperialism..."

What?

Your comment makes no sense. Did you forget to read the protocol? If anything, it better empowers defending nations, and would be (on those grounds) considered anti-imperialist.


Firstly, how? Secondly, reread your post. Also, you might want to read this, 'A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.
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Postby Chester Pearson » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:28 pm

Parti Ouvrier wrote:
Lun Noir wrote:"...A progressive role for imperialism..."

What?

Your comment makes no sense. Did you forget to read the protocol? If anything, it better empowers defending nations, and would be (on those grounds) considered anti-imperialist.


Firstly, how? Secondly, reread your post. Also, you might want to read this, 'A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


So....... increasing international security is now imperialism?????? :blink: Not every nation is the U.S. you know?
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Postby The Akashic Records » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:31 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:
Parti Ouvrier wrote:Firstly, how? Secondly, reread your post. Also, you might want to read this, 'A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


So....... increasing international security is now imperialism?????? :blink: Not every nation is the U.S. you know?

I think they're mistaking the increase in police and military budget as preparations for wars of aggression, or something to those effects.
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Postby Chester Pearson » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:39 pm

The Akashic Records wrote:
Chester Pearson wrote:
So....... increasing international security is now imperialism?????? :blink: Not every nation is the U.S. you know?

I think they're mistaking the increase in police and military budget as preparations for wars of aggression, or something to those effects.


This sums up my stance on their position.
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