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by Almajoya » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:33 pm
by New Olwe » Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:02 am
Quelesh wrote:New Olwe wrote:Whereas my nation, ironically enough one that is viewed as good, realizes that a proper execution should take weeks and be broadcast publicly? He's not as evil as me, I tell you.
Honored Ambassador, do you mean to imply that your nation engages in the torture of prisoners in violation of WA resolutions #9, Prevention of Torture, and #62, For the Detained and Convicted?
by Quelesh » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:34 am
Flibbleites wrote:Ambridge County wrote:Provisional Ireland wrote:A government should be better than those they deem criminal. Just because they kill someone doesn't mean you have to kill them back. General population prison is usually a worse punishment, anyway. And to all the nations who are saying "you're just not doing it right, it deters when we [insert intentionally grizzly means of killing someone]", go ahead and keep up your fantasy. Anyway, human rights mandates don't violate national sovereignty. To any nations saying that the right to life is no human (or sentient, if that helps) right, then make your case when there's an argument over the resolution, and vote against it. Anyway, this post is for no desire to argue, just to try to help out the nation who is drafting this resolution.
I think you stated my beliefs on the issue wonderfully. I believe that human rights come over sovereignty. If a nation does not want to be subject to the resolutions of the WA, they are free to resign. Genocide is prohibited, slavery is prohibited; people complained when those resolutions were put up to a vote. But good always trumped evil.
That may be true, but genocide and slavery are issues that can be international in nature, whether or not a nation can execute its criminals is not an international issue.
Bob Flibble
WA Representative
New Olwe wrote:Quelesh wrote:New Olwe wrote:Whereas my nation, ironically enough one that is viewed as good, realizes that a proper execution should take weeks and be broadcast publicly? He's not as evil as me, I tell you.
Honored Ambassador, do you mean to imply that your nation engages in the torture of prisoners in violation of WA resolutions #9, Prevention of Torture, and #62, For the Detained and Convicted?
No, I mean to specifically state that our intelligence service does those things, and that in response to the WA's attempts to violate our sovereignty we gave them sovereignty... Olwean Intelligence is now a separate nation, free from WA jurisdiction.
Isabelle Hayes, Olwean Ambassador to the WA
by Ilharessa » Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:34 am
Quelesh wrote:It's as much of an international issue as child labor.
by The Altani Federation » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:37 pm
by Philimbesi » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:57 pm
by Verzia » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:03 pm
NOTING that capital punishment is an abuse of human rights,
RECOGNIZING that discrepancies exist within the capital punishment system to the point where innocent individuals are executed,
RECOGNIZING that capital punishment has not been proven to deter crime,
HEREBY abolishes the act of capital punishment.
by United Habsburg » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:11 pm
by Grays Harbor » Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:20 pm
Heartwell wrote:NOTING that capital punishment is an abuse of human rights
Since when capital punishment is an abuse of human rights?
by Tsukasa-chan » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:59 pm
Quelesh wrote:OOC: I don't think that would work. A prisoner would still have to be extradited from New Olwe to "Olwean Intelligence" to be tortured by them, which is still a violation of resolution #9 on New Olwe's part. And realistically speaking, any nation in the RL UN that attempted to make such an argument would be widely recognized as being flagrantly in violation of the resolution.
by Tipsonia » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:53 pm
by The Emmerian Unions » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:54 pm
Tipsonia wrote:I DO NOT support the draft resolution, the Confederacy rules its peoples out of fear, and one way to construct fear is capital punishment
Also I dont support the World assembly interfering in domestic affairs
Ifreann wrote:"And in world news, the United States has recently elected Bill Gates as God Emperor For All Time. Foreign commentators believe that Gates' personal fortune may have played a role in his victory, but criticism from the United States of Gates(as it is now known) has been sparse and brief."
by Tipsonia » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:57 pm
by The Emmerian Unions » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:00 pm
Tipsonia wrote:
Dig what up? Im only saying I wouldn't support the resolution because what the confederacy does to its criminals is the Confederacy's own business
Ifreann wrote:"And in world news, the United States has recently elected Bill Gates as God Emperor For All Time. Foreign commentators believe that Gates' personal fortune may have played a role in his victory, but criticism from the United States of Gates(as it is now known) has been sparse and brief."
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