[Draft] Ban on Forced Abortions

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

The United Socialist State of Goath disagrees with your assertion that this resolution does not ban so-called "partial birth abortions"- upon further review we are convinced it most certainly does exactly that.

Then I suggest you familiarize yourself with the legislative conventions of this body. Member states are only ever bound to uphold the letter of the law, which is why our diplomats are so particular about what the laws they vote on actually say. Creative interpretations of the language are not universally binding. We ought to know; we literally wrote the book on the subject.

[Niuanga]

i think people everywhere should be allowed abortions.

[Goath]

The United Socialist State of Goath disagrees with your assertion that this resolution does not ban so-called "partial birth abortions"- upon further review we are convinced it most certainly does exactly that.

Then I suggest you familiarize yourself with the legislative conventions of this body. Member states are only ever bound to uphold the letter of the law, which is why our diplomats are so particular about what the laws they vote on actually say. Creative interpretations of the language are not universally binding. We ought to know; we literally wrote the book on the subject.

It's entirely possible I'm missing something- but this resolution defines how a state must treat an "infant" that is "born" as a citizen of the state:

CONFIRMS that any infant born medically alive must be regarded as a citizen and a person and is entitled to full protection and must be given any and all requested medical treatment and rehabilitation in order to preserve its life concordant with national law.

How can that not explicitly outlaw any abortion procedure that doesn't take place entirely within the body of the mother?

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

It would be up to you whether "born" means fully born or not. Would you honestly shoot yourselves in the foot and outlaw partial-birth abortion in your nation just to make a point about the language?

[Goath]

It would be up to you whether "born" means fully born or not. Would you honestly shoot yourselves in the foot and outlaw partial-birth abortion in your nation just to make a point about the language?

The language is inappropriately ambiguous. I believe, as it is currently written, that it would require all nations to outlaw partial-birth abortion...or (again, because the content is ambiguous) it could be used as justification for some nations to ban partial-birth abortion. I won't support a resolution that has either of those possible ramifications.

I'd encourage the final clause of the resolution to be dropped entirely- not only does it have potentially damaging effects on a woman's right to choose, it also, in my mind, has no place in a resolution that's scope is preventing forced abortions. Language about "after birth" treatment and legal status is a superfluous addition.

I support the underlying goal- forced abortions are as much an affront to the rights of women as laws that ban abortions. However, I will not support the resolution in its current form.

[The Harberians]

King Takeru supports this proposal, as do all of the Harberians, whose delight resounds with joy.