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Yensidretlaw
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Anti-Cartel Act

Postby Yensidretlaw » Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:57 pm

Today I submitted a proposal to the WA and would like anyone's feedback -- encouragement, critique, or otherwise -- of it. A copy is printed below. I do hope that you'll vote for it. Thank you.

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RECOGNIZING that international drug cartels exist in our modern global society,

DEFINING a drug cartel as a group of individuals who traffick illegal drugs across national borders, with or without the knowledge of the nations' governments,

HEREBY establishs the Anti-Cartel Agency (ACA) to invesigate and prosecute drug cartels within the rules defined by the World Assembly, with a law enforcement team employed by the World Assembly,

THEREBY eliminating the issue of determining jurisdiction that has made legal prosecution of drug cartels difficult,

RESOLVING that the ACA will make annual, thorough reports of its activities and progress to the World Assembly,

WHEREAS not all member nations agree on a definition of "illegal drug," the ACA will only prosecute cartels that traffick drugs that are considered universally illegal and may be censured if it goes beyond such drugs,

And ALLOWING for an annual vote following the aforementioned reports to continue or discontinue the ACA,

LET IT BE RESOLVED that the Anti-Cartel Act will be international law.

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The Emmerian Unions
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Postby The Emmerian Unions » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:02 pm

Yensidretlaw wrote:HEREBY establishs the Anti-Cartel Agency (ACA) to invesigate and prosecute drug cartels within the rules defined by the World Assembly, with a law enforcement team employed by the World Assembly,


Illegal for this quoted section. The WA CANNOT employ ANY form of police or military force.
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Bronson Prime
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Postby Bronson Prime » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:10 pm

The Emmerian Unions wrote:
Yensidretlaw wrote:HEREBY establishs the Anti-Cartel Agency (ACA) to invesigate and prosecute drug cartels within the rules defined by the World Assembly, with a law enforcement team employed by the World Assembly,


Illegal for this quoted section. The WA CANNOT employ ANY form of police or military force.



I agree. The Confederacy of Bronson Prime would not support the ACA's resolution allowing a WA police force to intervene in soverign nation states' internal affairs. Besides, Bronson Prime has legalized most drugs, so there is no need for drug cartels or black market drug trading.
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Rutianas
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Postby Rutianas » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:13 pm

Bronson Prime wrote:
The Emmerian Unions wrote:
Yensidretlaw wrote:HEREBY establishs the Anti-Cartel Agency (ACA) to invesigate and prosecute drug cartels within the rules defined by the World Assembly, with a law enforcement team employed by the World Assembly,


Illegal for this quoted section. The WA CANNOT employ ANY form of police or military force.



I agree. The Confederacy of Bronson Prime would not support the ACA's resolution allowing a WA police force to intervene in soverign nation states' internal affairs. Besides, Bronson Prime has legalized most drugs, so there is no need for drug cartels or black market drug trading.


Same reasons. Most drugs are legal. No Cartels. And a big no-no on giving the WA a police force. It'll never happen. Never.

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OOC: Yensidretlaw, I'd advise you to make sure you read the WA proposal rules, then post your proposal here before submitting it to the proposal list. That way you can revise and refine and make sure your proposal is legal and one that people would likely support before submitting it.

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Yensidretlaw
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Postby Yensidretlaw » Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:07 am

Thank you all for your feedback. I did read the WA rules ahead of time, which is why I was very careful not to use the term "police force." As for the legality of most drugs... well, that's a debate for another day. ;)

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Philimbesi
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Postby Philimbesi » Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:20 am

And pray good ambassador what's the difference between a "police force" and a "law enforcement team"? I would suggest that a police force by any other name is still a police force.

Nations have the right to decide for themselves what if any substances that feel important to ban. Many choose not to ban them in an effort to eliminate the very organizations this resolution would try to fight. The theory would be that if the substance isn't illegal then a subversive organization to deliver the substance would be unnecessary. As would this resolution.

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Postby Flibbleites » Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:38 am

Yensidretlaw wrote:Thank you all for your feedback. I did read the WA rules ahead of time, which is why I was very careful not to use the term "police force."

A police force by any other name, is still a police force.

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Charlotte Ryberg
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:21 am

Draft text wrote:And ALLOWING for an annual vote following the aforementioned reports to continue or discontinue the ACA,

Honoured ambassador to Yensidretlaw, this appears to suggest metagaming or modifications to game mechanics: either way WA proposals do not have sunset clauses.

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Rutianas
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Postby Rutianas » Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:00 pm

Yensidretlaw wrote:Thank you all for your feedback. I did read the WA rules ahead of time, which is why I was very careful not to use the term "police force." As for the legality of most drugs... well, that's a debate for another day. ;)


Any group which practices enforcement of an international law in multiple nations is illegal by WA standards. As for your comment on drugs, well, you can't really debate what my nation or any other nation chooses to make legal. We've had plenty of 'ban all bad drugs' and 'legalise all bad drugs' proposals come through. There's differing opinions. You can attempt to debate it with me, but, of course, I won't bother to listen and should you attempt to barge into my office with such a debate, you may find yourself tossed out my window in response. Have a nice day.

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Gobbannium
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Postby Gobbannium » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:56 pm

Given that the sunset clause is sufficient to cause this proposal to be illegal, never mind its manifold other failings, we strongly suggest that the author ask the relevant authorities to remove it from the WA's consideration before they decide that it merits a warning.

(OOC: in other words, the polite thing to do is to file a "Getting Help" request with the moderators asking them to pull your proposal because it's illegal. Otherwise you risk one of them noticing, deleting it and slapping you with a warning. Given that the problem with it has been mentioned a couple of times now, there's a fairly high chance of that happening.)
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