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[DRAFT] Avoiding the militarisation of Outer Space

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[DRAFT] Avoiding the militarisation of Outer Space

Postby Chemonation » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:26 am

Noting with satisfaction that outer space is being utilized by the member states for peaceful purposes and betterment of human mankind,

Believing that it would be further used for mutual understanding among countries and its natives and for melioration in scientific and technological fields despite of its economical and scientific position,

Bearing in mind that destruction of ageing satellites by anti-satellites launched by the host country, which can be for dual-use capabilities, can pose a threat and can result in an arms race,

Alarmed by the crowding problem of space debris in the Orbits as it would have less room for civilian systems and could pose a considerable hazard for spacecraft,

Having considered further that implementing these proposals, the listed above problems could be obviated to maintain the outer space as a free zone of weapons,

Thereby:-

1) Urges more international joint space ventures for peaceful purposes with all major and minor countries taking part equally with equal stakes so as to ensure that no one country can effectively use outer space for militarization of its defenses and thus ensuring progress in research work and other peaceful activities;

2) Strongly condemns the funding for weapons in space, including anti-satellite weapons, and destructive ground-based anti-satellite weapons irrespective the country’s scientific and economical status;

3) Urges the World Assembly (WA) to create a treaty named Outlying Space Treaty (OST) and expand the OST to encompass not only nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction but also the conventional types of weapons along with the new era weapons(e.g.: high frequency lasers,etc) and encourages the creation of more transparency and verification measures for the treaty, so that space activities are demonstrated in accordance with the treaty;

4) Calls upon the WA to reduce and eventually put an end to all ASAT ( Anti – Satellite ) missiles and weapons which will help reduce the debris from destroyed satellites in Earth's orbit so as to ensure that further research is easy more safe while at the same time ensuring the reduction of arms in space and thus the arms race as space debris is a recognized threat to satellites and space travel that all nations should seek to avoid;

5) Further recommends the creation of awareness amongst the youth and the citizens of the globe through moral instigation with the help of speeches, conferences, , posters etc. about the ill effects of space weaponization and militarization so that the future of space militarization is dull and shaky;

6) Emphasizes on the provision of more specific (and accurate) information from contributors to the WA registry of space launches. This would include more details of the objects sent into space so that precise purposes and descriptions of hardware are clear;

7) Calls upon a team of WA called World Assembly Office for Space Issues (WAOSI) to monitor and verify the information governments supply to the WA by inspecting all the satellites that are to be launched before the actual dates of launching to prevent an arms race in the outer space;

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Postby Hirota » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:53 am

A well-written proposal with lots of interesting ideas. In principal this has a lot of merit. However, I'm opposed to the idea of no defenses in space. For a start there are natural threats to planetary bodies such as asteroids which we can handle with the tactical use of a few nukes here and there.
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Postby Chemonation » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:56 am

In such case , member states can launch missiles from the land bases rather than placing weapons in the outer space which can be threat to the entire world.

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Postby Hirota » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:04 am

Chemonation wrote:In such case , member states can launch missiles from the land bases rather than placing weapons in the outer space which can be threat to the entire world.
And if we have to launch a nuke into space, and it fails to reach orbit, we not only have a radiation hazard to clean up or bury under concrete, but also an asteroid which will wipe us all out.

I'll also note that arms races have the silver lining of stimulating scientific discovery and technological advances.

Thirdly, we have member states who claim to occupy multiple planets. I'd imagine a large amount of their military budget is spent on a navy to protect those planets, and I believe you would struggle to get their support on this draft.

Obviously this is merely my own governments opinion on this matter, and whilst we dislike being opposed to a pretty well-reasoned draft, we will have to oppose this in it's current format. However, you are under no obligation to consider Hirota's opinion to be shared by the majority of the WA, and are free to continue your agenda.

I'll now yield the floor to other member states to contribute on their thoughts.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:07 am

Space based cultures and nations may have just a few qualms about this.
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Postby Chemonation » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:20 am

Hirota wrote:
Chemonation wrote:In such case , member states can launch missiles from the land bases rather than placing weapons in the outer space which can be threat to the entire world.
And if we have to launch a nuke into space, and it fails to reach orbit, we not only have a radiation hazard to clean up or bury under concrete, but also an asteroid which will wipe us all out.

I'll also note that arms races have the silver lining of stimulating scientific discovery and technological advances.

Thirdly, we have member states who claim to occupy multiple planets. I'd imagine a large amount of their military budget is spent on a navy to protect those planets, and I believe you would struggle to get their support on this draft.

Obviously this is merely my own governments opinion on this matter, and whilst we dislike being opposed to a pretty well-reasoned draft, we will have to oppose this in it's current format. However, you are under no obligation to consider Hirota's opinion to be shared by the majority of the WA, and are free to continue your agenda.

I'll now yield the floor to other member states to contribute on their thoughts.


For the first question the solution is simple. While launching nukes, it is the moral responsibility of the scientists and researchers to improve the accuracy and speed. Due to effective aftermath of misuse of nukes, the member nations should focus mainly on the two objectives mentioned above (accuracy and speed) before launching any nuke in the outer space.

For the second question, please refer to Clause # 3.By these means, no weapons will be launched and placed in the outer space and hence satellites will be used for civilian purposes like scientific discovery, technological advances, weather forecasting and for research purposes.

For the third question, member countries can spend the money on defenses on navy, land and air forces to protect their planets and can take immediate action if any threat is on their planet.

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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:27 am

Chemonation wrote:Noting with satisfaction that outer space is being utilized by the member states for peaceful purposes and betterment of human mankind,

Speciesist.
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Postby Chemonation » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:48 am

Grays Harbor wrote:Space based cultures and nations may have just a few qualms about this.


If it is found that member countries have military satellites, and have not been informed about not using it, then the World Assembly (WA) can ask the respective nation(s) to bring back those satellites back to earth and destroy them in the earth and not in space as it would lead to an increase in the amount of space debris.

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Postby Chemonation » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:53 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Chemonation wrote:Noting with satisfaction that outer space is being utilized by the member states for peaceful purposes and betterment of human mankind,

Speciesist.


How am I a 'Speciesist' as I am not discriminating any nation but I am including the member countries.

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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:08 am

Chemonation wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Speciesist.


How am I a 'Speciesist' as I am not discriminating any nation but I am including the member countries.

"Not all WA member-nations are populated solely by humans, as your current choice of wording implies. In my own homeland, for example, approximately 95% of the population are actually members of the Ursine species..."


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Postby Flibbleites » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:07 pm

Opposed, you'll take my keys to the Cluichistani Death Star when you pry them from my cold dead hand.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:16 pm

Opposed. We do not recognize any foreign powers sovereignty in our orbital zone. It is ours and as such we may do what we wish with it.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:48 pm

Chemonation wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:Space based cultures and nations may have just a few qualms about this.


If it is found that member countries have military satellites, and have not been informed about not using it, then the World Assembly (WA) can ask the respective nation(s) to bring back those satellites back to earth and destroy them in the earth and not in space as it would lead to an increase in the amount of space debris.

OK, here's your problem. You are working on the assumption that all nations are on this "earth" place, which they are not. There are nations on other planets, there are multi-system nations and empires, there are nations who live solely in space. The WA does not represent a pitiful single planet polity. There are nations with entire space navies used to defend their multi-system nations.

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Postby Chemonation » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:49 pm

Ok . I got it.So are there any chaces of amendments such that I can submit my proposal to WA ?

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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:59 pm

Opposed, how do FT nations make war in space, and not all WA nations have humans, there are octopi, bears, ponies and more in the WA.

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Postby Cinistra » Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:20 am

Chemonation wrote:In such case , member states can launch missiles from the land bases rather than placing weapons in the outer space which can be threat to the entire world.

OOC: That's not possible. The engines of the ICBMs today are not powerful enough to leave the Earth's gravity field. If you seriously choose this option, you will need to have nuclear weapons stationed outside Earth (the Moon?).
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Postby Panti » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:18 am

I am also opposed, as I hold multiple colonies in and outside this system, and I command a powerful fleet of starships. And as Cinistra said, it would be impossible to destroy an asteroid hurtling towards earth with ground-based defenses. The only way those would work would be if the asteroid was already in the atmosphere, and if a ICBM was fired at it the asteroid would break up and still cause widespread destruction and nuclear fallout would also be a serious problem.

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Postby Cinistra » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:17 pm

Panti wrote:I am also opposed, as I hold multiple colonies in and outside this system, and I command a powerful fleet of starships. And as Cinistra said, it would be impossible to destroy an asteroid hurtling towards earth with ground-based defenses. The only way those would work would be if the asteroid was already in the atmosphere, and if a ICBM was fired at it the asteroid would break up and still cause widespread destruction and nuclear fallout would also be a serious problem

Not enough time. It takes only 1 - one - second from the asteroid enters the atmosphere to it's devastating impact. You may not have to blow the asteroid into pieces. One option may be to land and take off from the asteroid, trying to push it into another orbit. Alternatively you can detonate a nuclear device in the vicinity of the asteroid, hoping that the blast pushes the asteroid into another, less dangerous, orbit. Either way, you must have weapons stationed in extraterrestrial locations. Therefore, the Cinistran government can not support this resolution.
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Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:06 pm

The very title of this proposal is inaccurate. The text appears to cover only the trans-atmospheric space from LEO to geostationary orbit, which is a tiny percentage of what is traditionally termed "outer space". There are currently 165 nations on The Moon alone, not to mention the other 124 regions claiming Outer Space extra-territoriality. Is it the author's contention that all these nations should be deprived of all weaponry and means of defense?

Perhaps a better approach to this entire concept would be through definition of "air rights" and beyond. National boundaries are typically described in a two-dimensional fashion, ignoring the third dimension of height and depth. I believe the naive pre-space definitions included the implied concept that national boundaries extended in a cone with its apex at the geographic center of the planet and extending into infinite space. Such a definition would not work in this modern world, or worlds, as it may. Airspace and ground space must necessarily encompass the needs and desires of orbital, interplanetary, and intergalactic polities. And having raised the question, it's likely we'll also be hearing from the subterranean communities as well.

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Postby Gnomewatchers » Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:28 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:And having raised the question, it's likely we'll also be hearing from the subterranean communities as well.

Yeah, Inner Space has needs too.

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Postby Novus Niciae » Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:35 pm

We have an extensive navy in space as a defense against hostile civilizations with similar navies.

The militarisation of Outer Space has already happened, there is no avoiding it.
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:22 am

What, you're going to stop us militarising Outer Space? Too late, sorry.
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