Submitted Protect Gun rights

[The Aztec Allience]

Ahem, here is my draft.
Protect Gun Rights
category "Gun Control" "relax".
NOTICING the danger criminals pose on unsuspecting bystanders
BELIEVING that guns can help protect victims from criminals
SEEING that gun sales and production can help the economy
HERBY
PROHIBITS nations from banning guns to the public
ALLOWS nations to regulate guns

Comments?

[Cowardly Pacifists]

Ahem, here is my draft.
Protect Gun Rights
NOTICING the danger criminals pose on unsuspecting bistanders
BELIVING that guns can help protect victems from criminals
SEEING that gun sales and production can help the economy
HERBY
MANADATES that nations can not ban guns

Comments?

I also read that FoxNews.com article.

"Bistanders?" "Beliving?!" "Victems?!?!" "Manadates?!?!?!" You need to learn to spell. Other than that, this is probably legal. Category: Gun Control. Decision: Relax.

This is pretty hilarious if it's an ironic joke. If you're serious, well... good luck. Nobody in their right mind would support this proposal.

[The Aztec Allience]

Ahem, here is my draft.
Protect Gun Rights
NOTICING the danger criminals pose on unsuspecting bistanders
BELIVING that guns can help protect victems from criminals
SEEING that gun sales and production can help the economy
HERBY
MANADATES that nations can not ban guns

Comments?

I also read that FoxNews.com article.

"Bistanders?" "Beliving?!" "Victems?!?!" "Manadates?!?!?!" You need to learn to spell. Other than that, this is probably legal. Category: Gun Control. Decision: Relax.

This is pretty hilarious if it's an ironic joke. If you're serious, well... good luck. Nobody in their right mind would support this proposal.

joke? ironic? it is not a joke it is a serious proposal, one of several anti gun control proposals i intend to make actually, anyway ill fix the spelling mistakes.

[Gothinia]

while we in Gothinia would never ban guns and agree they shouldn't be, other nations can still operate their own way and ban guns if they want.

[The Republic of Lanos]

For the idea.
Against this proposal.

[The Aztec Allience]

while we in Gothinia would never ban guns and agree they shouldn't be, other nations can still operate their own way and ban guns if they want.

Ok thank you for your comment.

[The Aztec Allience]

For the idea.
Against this proposal.

What is wrong with the proposal?

[Cowardly Pacifists]

joke? ironic? it is not a joke it is a serious proposal, one of several anti gun control proposals i intend to make actually, anyway ill fix the spelling mistakes.

Don't fix the spelling mistakes, that's what makes it ironic!!

[The Aztec Allience]

joke? ironic? it is not a joke it is a serious proposal, one of several anti gun control proposals i intend to make actually, anyway ill fix the spelling mistakes.

Don't fix the spelling mistakes, that's what makes it ironic!!

this is a serious proposal and a serious draft. It is not ment to be ironic or funny.

[Azulor]

I don't agree. Guns should be restricted to the military ONLY. Maybe a few politicians too...

[Cowardly Pacifists]

this is a serious proposal and a serious draft. It is not ment to be ironic or funny.

In that case, you should include a provision requiring nations to imprison any citizen who attempts to steal another citizen's gun.

[The Aztec Allience]

this is a serious proposal and a serious draft. It is not ment to be ironic or funny.

In that case, you should include a provision requiring nations to imprison any citizen who attempts to steal another citizen's gun.

Please contribute somthing worthwhile to the thread.

[Las Trinidades]

We The Allied States of Las Trinidades,

Although we find you need a bit of a spell checker (nudge nudge),

Hereby agree that it is a good proposal, yet choose to remain neutral until further notice.

We agree that peoples rights to self defence are necessary,

Largely in an age were criminals run with weapons themselves.

Also adding, that this is a "DRAFT" We try not to be picky, mearly critically helpful, so that other nations may come forth with better, more detailed proposals.

This in case, your proposal does have a couple of loopholes,

It does not address gun "control" laws, nor age limits and etc, it is to vague.

We apologize if our comments come across as to pin-point picky,

We wish the best of luck in your proposal and draft,

The Allied States of Las Trinidades

[Thatchland]

ITT: People who are scared of their own shadow.

In reality: Most guns that are used to commit crimes in the USA are bought legally through dealers by the criminals themselves, or by straw purchases (two people walk into a gun shop, one pays and the other fronts their id and does the paperwork), or through shady at-home and commercial dealers. Less than 15% of all gun crimes are committed with a stolen gun.

Ergo, in reality less guns available for sale would mean less gun crimes and therefore more people would be safe. However, at least in some countries, that's not going to happen.

But honestly - if a weapon isn't available to the public, it is much less likely to be available to criminals. And therefore, a safer society. Not the other way around.

[Cowardly Pacifists]

In that case, you should include a provision requiring nations to imprison any citizen who attempts to steal another citizen's gun.

Please contribute somthing worthwhile to the thread.

No, I think I'll just ignore this thread until it's dead. If this was for fun I might play along. But if you're serious, you're out of your mind.

Even those who agree that gun ownership is a virtue know that you cannot prohibit nations from banning guns in their own borders. It will not happen. So either make an effort to soften this to something that's got a chance, or drop it. Or waste your time, I don't really care.

[The Aztec Allience]

We The Allied States of Las Trinidades,

Although we find you need a bit of a spell checker (nudge nudge),

Hereby agree that it is a good proposal, yet choose to remain neutral until further notice.

We agree that peoples rights to self defence are necessary,

Largely in an age were criminals run with weapons themselves.

Also adding, that this is a "DRAFT" We try not to be picky, mearly critically helpful, so that other nations may come forth with better, more detailed proposals.

This in case, your proposal does have a couple of loopholes,

It does not address gun "control" laws, nor age limits and etc, it is to vague.

We apologize if our comments come across as to pin-point picky,

We wish the best of luck in your proposal and draft,

The Allied States of Las Trinidades

actually i intend to get rid of gun control starting by preventing a ban on guns from happening, after this i will draft a proposal allowing concealed firearms, and a few more after that. This draft does NOT target gun control itself, just makes sure guns cannot be banned, anyway thanks for your comment.

[The Aztec Allience]

Please contribute somthing worthwhile to the thread.

No, I think I'll just ignore this thread until it's dead. If this was for fun I might play along. But if you're serious, you're out of your mind.

Even those who agree that gun ownership is a virtue know that you cannot prohibit nations from banning guns in their own borders. It will not happen. So either make an effort to soften this to something that's got a chance, or drop it. Or waste your time, I don't really care.

Out of my mind? Waste of time? It can and will happen.

[The Aztec Allience]

ITT: People who are scared of their own shadow.

In reality: Most guns that are used to commit crimes in the USA are bought legally through dealers by the criminals themselves, or by straw purchases (two people walk into a gun shop, one pays and the other fronts their id and does the paperwork), or through shady at-home and commercial dealers. Less than 15% of all gun crimes are committed with a stolen gun.

Ergo, in reality less guns available for sale would mean less gun crimes and therefore more people would be safe. However, at least in some countries, that's not going to happen.

But honestly - if a weapon isn't available to the public, it is much less likely to be available to criminals. And therefore, a safer society. Not the other way around.

if you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have them.

[Thatchland]

ITT: People who are scared of their own shadow.

In reality: Most guns that are used to commit crimes in the USA are bought legally through dealers by the criminals themselves, or by straw purchases (two people walk into a gun shop, one pays and the other fronts their id and does the paperwork), or through shady at-home and commercial dealers. Less than 15% of all gun crimes are committed with a stolen gun.

Ergo, in reality less guns available for sale would mean less gun crimes and therefore more people would be safe. However, at least in some countries, that's not going to happen.

But honestly - if a weapon isn't available to the public, it is much less likely to be available to criminals. And therefore, a safer society. Not the other way around.

if you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have them.

Let me restate using smaller words: All guns used in crimes were once guns that were legally owned. All Guns. If you remove the supply - you remove the opportunity.

[The Aztec Allience]

if you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have them.

Let me restate using smaller words: All guns used in crimes were once guns that were legally owned. All Guns. If you remove the supply - you remove the opportunity.

EVERY smuggler finds a way to get the product in, just look at the war on drugs, banning guns would be the same.

[Gothinia]

Let me restate using smaller words: All guns used in crimes were once guns that were legally owned. All Guns. If you remove the supply - you remove the opportunity.

EVERY smuggler finds a way to get the product in, just look at the war on drugs, banning guns would be the same.

^This

[Las Trinidades]

if you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have them.

Let me restate using smaller words: All guns used in crimes were once guns that were legally owned. All Guns. If you remove the supply - you remove the opportunity.

Although We agree with what Thatchland is implying,

People will always find a way to get means to their desires,

May it be outside influences, at home deals, or black markets, etc.

Once supply to the general public is cut off, there will be less Chance but people would still very well be able to get their hands on weaponry,

The only way to stop that, would be to go into commercial isolation, possibly the closing of outside contacts, etc.

This both violates freedoms of trade & commerce, and cripples the economy.

[Goobergunchia]

If this draft proposal were to pass, member states could simply restrict gun ownership to those persons who passed an exceptionally challenging and difficult examination. While we are unlikely to support anything resembling this proposal, we would at least hope it would not be trivial to evade.

Also, we suggest that this proposal would likely fall under the category "Gun Control", with the decision "relax".

[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian WA Ambassador
Citizen of the Rejected Realms

[The Aztec Allience]

If this draft proposal were to pass, member states could simply restrict gun ownership to those persons who passed an exceptionally challenging and difficult examination. While we are unlikely to support anything resembling this proposal, we would at least hope it would not be trivial to evade.

Also, we suggest that this proposal would likely fall under the category "Gun Control", with the decision "relax".

[Lord] Michael Evif
Goobergunchian WA Ambassador
Citizen of the Rejected Realms

Thank you for your comment.

[Azulor]

Guns are important and good, if they are used correctly.