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Will you vote yes on this resolution? Only WA members please

Yes, I agree
113
37%
Yes, I agree somewhat
30
10%
Undecided
5
2%
No, I disagree somewhat
25
8%
No, I disagree
134
44%
 
Total votes : 307

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Great Azarath
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Founded: Aug 15, 2011
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:41 pm

Dizyntk wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:No, for a majority I have respond pretty well....buddy.

"You have yet to respond well to anything in the past 38 pages."

Why dont you scroll up and then you will seee
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Dizyntk
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Founded: Aug 05, 2011
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Postby Dizyntk » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:41 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:No, for a majority I have respond pretty well....buddy.


Now you are simply trying to be obnoxious. The Azarathian delegation has proven to have the mental faculties of a fourteen-year old child. Since the Azarathian delegation will not rise to my challenge for them to submit the proposal and see where it goes, then we can only assume that the Azarathians are in agreement that such a proposal could never pass.

"Agreed with Ambassador SaDiablo. And Ambassador, please refrain from insulting fourteen-year olds."
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Dilange
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Postby Dilange » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:42 pm

Great Azarath wrote:You are twisting it....not once in this resolution does it say that.


I think you should re-read your first line of your proposal.

Theres more than just bith control and condoms.


And such as? Many others don't have a good liablity rating...and some diseases cant be stopped.

Didn't I already say my age? How old are you btw?


You did. I work at a legal office for overseas law and trade. So old enough...

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Dilange
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Postby Dilange » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:42 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Dilange wrote:
I answered the question for her. Yet you keep bantering the Dizyntk princess, why? I answered the question, present your proof. NOW.

No, I asked her. But if you insist, would you?


I already answered that.

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Separatist Peoples
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:44 pm

Dizyntk wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:
Now you are simply trying to be obnoxious. The Azarathian delegation has proven to have the mental faculties of a fourteen-year old child. Since the Azarathian delegation will not rise to my challenge for them to submit the proposal and see where it goes, then we can only assume that the Azarathians are in agreement that such a proposal could never pass.

"Agreed with Amdassador DaSiablo. And Ambassador, please refrain from insulting fourteen-year olds."


"DaSiablo?" Representative Sa'Diablo taps his Universal Translator to make sure it still functioned properly. Shrugging, he continued. "My mistake, Lady. The fourteen-year-olds deserve more credit then that."

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Dilange
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Founded: Mar 09, 2010
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Postby Dilange » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:46 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Dizyntk wrote:"You have yet to respond well to anything in the past 38 pages."

Why dont you scroll up and then you will seee


If you think your right then submit it, by all means. Stop wasting our time with middle school logic and bullshit and submit the damned proposal.

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Great Azarath
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Founded: Aug 15, 2011
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:47 pm

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:1- you keep saying that but fail to tell us what the point it.


How do you plan on telling prostitutes the risk when they prolly already know them?

2- Are you saying prostitution has nothing to do with sex?


DIdnt say that at all. I said its more of a business transaction...a contract is unnessessary.

3- You can get a disease from anyone.....doesnt have to be a prostitute. What abbout your husband or wife?


I know that. But its more likely from a prostitute.

4- Again that is not legal, therefore irrelevant.


Actually it is legal, and if not show proof.

1- If they "prolly" know the risk then what exactly is your problem with it?
2- Eh, I sorta agree about the contract
3- No, your just as likely. They both are live beings.
4- Dont remember what is being spoken of...
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Vocatus
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Founded: Mar 29, 2011
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Postby Vocatus » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:48 pm

Welp, this debate has degenerated pretty quickly.

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Dilange
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Founded: Mar 09, 2010
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Postby Dilange » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:52 pm

Great Azarath wrote:1- If they "prolly" know the risk then what exactly is your problem with it?


Its unnecessary.

2- Eh, I sorta agree about the contract


Good. Now that we know its more a business than a bodily right....we can stop this entire draft now.


3- No, your just as likely. They both are live beings.


False.

Prostitutes have more sexual partners than normal live beings. More likely.

4- Dont remember what is being spoken of...


:palm: The problems where brothels aren't safer than just working alone.

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Alqania
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Founded: Aug 03, 2011
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Postby Alqania » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:54 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Alqania wrote:
"I would like to implore Your Excellency to refrain from implying that there is no difference between Her Royal Highness and a common street thug."

And who are you referring to as a street thug? Btw, did you say dizynkt said she wouldn't have unprotected sex with a stranger?


"I have not referred to anyone as a street thug.

Has Your Excellency heard me say any such thing about Her Royal Highness?"
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Dizyntk
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Founded: Aug 05, 2011
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Postby Dizyntk » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:56 pm

"You needn't get upset, Ambassador Maronokov. He may talk about this for another two weeks, but the author will not have the courage to re-submit the proposal. That much has become obvious."
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Great Azarath
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Founded: Aug 15, 2011
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:59 pm

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath";p="6866
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You are twisting it....not once in this resolution does it say that.


I think you should re-read your first line of your proposal.

Theres more than just bith control and condoms.


And such as? Many others don't have a good liablity rating...and some diseases cant be stopped.

Didn't I already say my age? How old are you btw?


You did. I work at a legal office for overseas law and trade. So old enough...

No where does it say it can be legalized specifically because it is ancient
I dont know this is the correct spelling, spermicide and others.
and eww
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Dilange
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Founded: Mar 09, 2010
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Postby Dilange » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:02 pm

Great Azarath wrote:No where does it say it can be legalized specifically because it is ancient


But you mention it as it is important, no? If its not a reaosn it should be legalized then its not needed..

I dont know this is the correct spelling, spermicide and others.


Spermicide doesnt protect from diseases.

and eww


:palm: eww? As in..

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Great Azarath
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:02 pm

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:Why dont you scroll up and then you will seee


If you think your right then submit it, by all means. Stop wasting our time with middle school logic and bullshit and submit the damned proposal.

Wasting YOUR time? Who said you HAVE to be here?
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Alqania
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Founded: Aug 03, 2011
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Postby Alqania » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:04 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Dilange wrote:
If you think your right then submit it, by all means. Stop wasting our time with middle school logic and bullshit and submit the damned proposal.

Wasting YOUR time? Who said you HAVE to be here?


"Our Governments did. They tend to feel rather strongly about us being in the debates and representing their interests."
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Represented in the WA by Ambassador Lord Raekevikinfo
and Deputy Ambassador Princess Christineinfo
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Dizyntk
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Founded: Aug 05, 2011
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Postby Dizyntk » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:06 pm

Alqania wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:Wasting YOUR time? Who said you HAVE to be here?


"Our Governments did. They tend to feel rather strongly about us being in the debates and representing their interests."

"Quite so. They do seem to be picky about that sort of thing. I can only imagine what the Empress would say if she heard I did not argue against this rubbish."
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Great Azarath
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:07 pm

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:1- If they "prolly" know the risk then what exactly is your problem with it?


Its unnecessary.

2- Eh, I sorta agree about the contract


Good. Now that we know its more a business than a bodily right....we can stop this entire draft now.


3- No, your just as likely. They both are live beings.


False.

Prostitutes have more sexual partners than normal live beings. More likely.

4- Dont remember what is being spoken of...


:palm: The problems where brothels aren't safer than just working alone.

1- No it isnt,
2-Heh, nice try
3-True
4-Welp, I am debating like 5 people at one while you only have one...cant blame me
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Great Azarath
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Founded: Aug 15, 2011
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:09 pm

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:No where does it say it can be legalized specifically because it is ancient


But you mention it as it is important, no? If its not a reaosn it should be legalized then its not needed..

I dont know this is the correct spelling, spermicide and others.


Spermicide doesnt protect from diseases.

and eww


:palm: eww? As in..

Did you read the resolution? It says unwanted pregnancies as well
and eww as in, your a crusty old man....
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Great Azarath
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Founded: Aug 15, 2011
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:10 pm

Alqania wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:Wasting YOUR time? Who said you HAVE to be here?


"Our Governments did. They tend to feel rather strongly about us being in the debates and representing their interests."

Thas b.s. just click on something different for petes sake
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Dizyntk
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Founded: Aug 05, 2011
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Postby Dizyntk » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:12 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Alqania wrote:
"Our Governments did. They tend to feel rather strongly about us being in the debates and representing their interests."

Thas b.s. just click on something different for petes sake

"Exactly how is our representing our government's interests b.s?"
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Dilange
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Founded: Mar 09, 2010
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Postby Dilange » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:12 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Dilange wrote:
Its unnecessary.



Good. Now that we know its more a business than a bodily right....we can stop this entire draft now.




False.

Prostitutes have more sexual partners than normal live beings. More likely.



:palm: The problems where brothels aren't safer than just working alone.

1- No it isnt,
2-Heh, nice try
3-True
4-Welp, I am debating like 5 people at one while you only have one...cant blame me


1- If you may then do so.
2- I tried
3- Then that makes no sense....
4- So, Im trying to track were we are in the argument...it grows in pages when ever I click away.

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Libraria and Ausitoria
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Founded: May 30, 2011
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:02 pm

We see the standard of debate has fallen ever since we left it. Therefore we call for all persons to refrain from trading insults.

To answer the point about trafficking and generally bad conditions in brothels: ok, while brothels do evidently have low standards, if we introduce proper regulations and enforce them, then bad people can be brought to justice. As we have mentioned earlier, even if this proposal falls through, we think proper regulations would be a good idea.

We can now approve of the draft as it stands, and will be interested to see what happens next to it, although we still think some of the wording is a bit iffy and are curious about this:
Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Also there might be the enormous loophole of taxing prostitution into non existence by giving the government 110% tax or something, although we're not sure of the legality of that principal? Anyway, if that loophole is legal, the proposal should plug the hole.
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Dilange
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Founded: Mar 09, 2010
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Postby Dilange » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:21 pm

Great Azarath wrote:Did you read the resolution? It says unwanted pregnancies as well


Yes I did, unwanted pregencies happen ok...what if it happens?

and eww as in, your a crusty old man....


Im 19. Apparently....19 is old to an 8 yr old?

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Speculine
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Founded: Jul 18, 2011
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Postby Speculine » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:32 am

Entire Post OOC: This thread is ridiculous. I am absolutely amazed that Azarath refuses to accept that the majority is against this proposal, even with the poll padding. Tonight I couldn't fall asleep so I decided to start at post one and go from there to see where people stood. Here are my findings. Non-WA Member Nations do not have a vote so their views were not counted. With this done, I'm finally tired enough to sleep. Goodnight NS.

47 WA Member Nations actually posted on this thread. Of them:
1 was neutral.
17 were for.
29 were against.

Those are the real numbers. Below is the breakdown.

1:
Wazkyraque
17:
Connopolis
New Unsociety
The Nuclear Fist
Isle of Kesha
Free Pangea
Knootoss
Ahrakahl
Black Marne
Who-Me
Bombey
New Nethiriza
Arivali
Libraria and Ausitoria
Lacobus
Parti Ouvrier
Silvary
Quadrimmina
29:
Sjavako
Quelesh
Demphor
Laurysia
Alpha and Delta Pact
Dystopian Malisin
Astrolinium
Vocatus
Manleestan
Herttora
Kaeiri
Suidwes-Afrika
Jordsindia
Nova Nacio
Alqania
Justownia
Cilef
Khelshar
Charlotte Ryberg
Jaymac1987
Xanthal
Dizyntk
Cenetra
Flibbleites
Speculine
Dilange
Bears Armed
Grays Harbor
Separatist Peoples
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Sjavako
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Postby Sjavako » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:06 am

Put me under for against.

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