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Will you vote yes on this resolution? Only WA members please

Yes, I agree
113
37%
Yes, I agree somewhat
30
10%
Undecided
5
2%
No, I disagree somewhat
25
8%
No, I disagree
134
44%
 
Total votes : 307

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Great Azarath
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:57 pm

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:What loophole is that? AND PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION: WOULD YOU HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX WITH A STRANGER?


I answered the question for her. Yet you keep bantering the Dizyntk princess, why? I answered the question, present your proof. NOW.

No, I asked her. But if you insist, would you?
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Great Azarath
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:00 pm

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:No, it is relevent, I actually have somewhere to go with it. If you took the time to write this you can take the time to put either 3 or 2 letters, yes, or no. I dont see why you cannot answer this.


Just present the proof, the more repetition you use...the more i do doubt you have substantial proof. IF YOU HAVE IT PRESENT IT. IF THIS WAS A COURT OF LAW, YOU WOULD BE ALREADY KICKED OUT FOR BEING IN CONTEMPT

This is a debate not a trail, anyways why do you keep butting in? I asked HER
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Great Azarath
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:03 pm

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:It still has to do with the fact that it is consenting while theft isnt. Theft is really irrevent


Prostitute is an old occupation
Thief is an old occupation

Going by the line EXACTLY from your proposal...we can legalize anything if its an old occupation.

Well if thats the case then you cant use it....how do you use "proof" with to conflicting arguments? irrelevent


:palm: It basically means you have a higher chance of suicide and psychological problems...dramatically higher. The point that you dont understand morbidity scares me.


yes, yes it does. and yes it will be A LOT safer. Your point
?

Birht control has a low chance of working and can stillt ransfer diseases.

COndoms can break.

What?? You've lost me


It was insurance. The point that sexual liberation hasnt been mentioned until now by me....makes things interesting. It makes me believe that you are under 16 to begin with.

You are twisting it....not once in this resolution does it say that.
Theres more than just bith control and condoms.
Didn't I already say my age? How old are you btw?
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Separatist Peoples
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:05 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Dilange wrote:
Just present the proof, the more repetition you use...the more i do doubt you have substantial proof. IF YOU HAVE IT PRESENT IT. IF THIS WAS A COURT OF LAW, YOU WOULD BE ALREADY KICKED OUT FOR BEING IN CONTEMPT

This is a debate not a trail, anyways why do you keep butting in? I asked HER


Forget it. Its obvious at this point that you do not, in fact, have the proof. Even if you did, whether the Ambassador from Dizyntk would have unprotected sex or not is not only inconclusive of the vast majority of the population, but highly personal, and irrelevant to the debate, regardless of whatever twisted point you are trying to make. If you cannot make a point based off of factual reasoning, and feel the need to make this personal, then you have already lost the debate.

You seem to think that this proposal stands a chance to make it to vote. I implore you, find out. Submit this. Submit this and let it rest, or see it passed into law. Then one side of this debate will see that it was wrong, and have to admit it to the other. But for the love of all that is holy, stop this pointless debate that you have clearly demonstrated you cannot win. Instead of trying to deny sources, ignore arguments, and generally place the governing powers of Great Azarath into public disdain and pity, put your money where your mouth is and submit the damn thing.

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Great Azarath
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:07 pm

Flibbleites wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:So a sapient being coming to a police station claiming she is being trafficked is something to be overlooked? Please answer. I strongly disagree. For one, if trafficking is such a large problem then I don't see how you can refuse to look into that.
It's not necessarily that they wouldn't look into it, it could be that the police have more pressing cases that they're working on that need to be handled first. For example, would you really want your police postponing the hunt for a serial killer because someone claimed that there was a case of human trafficking?

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Now your changing your story. btw, you dont need a whole army to do a investigation and having all these prostitutes surely would drop the trafficking rates
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:10 pm

Alqania wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:Admit it, you wouldn't have unprotected sex with a prostitute and neither would a client or prostitute


"Is Your Excellency seriously arguing that every single person in the multiverse would act as responsibly as Her Royal Highness would?"

Are you saying she would not have unprotected sex with a stranger?
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:12 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Alqania wrote:
"Is Your Excellency seriously arguing that every single person in the multiverse would act as responsibly as Her Royal Highness would?"

Are you saying she would not have unprotected sex with a stranger?


Jesus, God almighty! Give it a rest already! We get the point you are trying to make: If she wouldn't, why would anybody else. The fact of the matter is that the comparison between her Royal Highness and the common street thug is entirely different!

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Postby Dizyntk » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:13 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:This is a debate not a trail, anyways why do you keep butting in? I asked HER


Forget it. Its obvious at this point that you do not, in fact, have the proof. Even if you did, whether the Ambassador from Dizyntk would have unprotected sex or not is not only inconclusive of the vast majority of the population, but highly personal, and irrelevant to the debate, regardless of whatever twisted point you are trying to make. If you cannot make a point based off of factual reasoning, and feel the need to make this personal, then you have already lost the debate.

You seem to think that this proposal stands a chance to make it to vote. I implore you, find out. Submit this. Submit this and let it rest, or see it passed into law. Then one side of this debate will see that it was wrong, and have to admit it to the other. But for the love of all that is holy, stop this pointless debate that you have clearly demonstrated you cannot win. Instead of trying to deny sources, ignore arguments, and generally place the governing powers of Great Azarath into public disdain and pity, put your money where your mouth is and submit the damn thing.

"He has already submitted it once and it failed miserably, Ambassador. Yet he still does not admit it is an ill concieved piece of...legislation. He has not the courage to submit it again or he would have done so already. Even if he does, when it fails AGAIN, he will not have the integrity or the honesty to admit his error."
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Great Azarath
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:14 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:This is a debate not a trail, anyways why do you keep butting in? I asked HER


Forget it. Its obvious at this point that you do not, in fact, have the proof. Even if you did, whether the Ambassador from Dizyntk would have unprotected sex or not is not only inconclusive of the vast majority of the population, but highly personal, and irrelevant to the debate, regardless of whatever twisted point you are trying to make. If you cannot make a point based off of factual reasoning, and feel the need to make this personal, then you have already lost the debate.

You seem to think that this proposal stands a chance to make it to vote. I implore you, find out. Submit this. Submit this and let it rest, or see it passed into law. Then one side of this debate will see that it was wrong, and have to admit it to the other. But for the love of all that is holy, stop this pointless debate that you have clearly demonstrated you cannot win. Instead of trying to deny sources, ignore arguments, and generally place the governing powers of Great Azarath into public disdain and pity, put your money where your mouth is and submit the damn thing.

You saying its personal is your opinion. Im 100% certain I have proof....the rest is completely off topic and i wont bother to respond
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:15 pm

Dizyntk wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:
Forget it. Its obvious at this point that you do not, in fact, have the proof. Even if you did, whether the Ambassador from Dizyntk would have unprotected sex or not is not only inconclusive of the vast majority of the population, but highly personal, and irrelevant to the debate, regardless of whatever twisted point you are trying to make. If you cannot make a point based off of factual reasoning, and feel the need to make this personal, then you have already lost the debate.

You seem to think that this proposal stands a chance to make it to vote. I implore you, find out. Submit this. Submit this and let it rest, or see it passed into law. Then one side of this debate will see that it was wrong, and have to admit it to the other. But for the love of all that is holy, stop this pointless debate that you have clearly demonstrated you cannot win. Instead of trying to deny sources, ignore arguments, and generally place the governing powers of Great Azarath into public disdain and pity, put your money where your mouth is and submit the damn thing.

"He has already submitted it once and it failed miserably, Ambassador. Yet he still does not admit it is an ill concieved piece of...legislation. He has not the courage to submit it again or he would have done so already. Even if he does, when it fails AGAIN, he will not have the integrity or the honesty to admit his error."


Now, now. I'd like to hear the Azarite, or Azarathian, or whatever the bloody fool calls himself, answer for himself. Put your money where your mouth is and submit this proposal. Then we'll see who is right and who is wrong.

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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:16 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:Are you saying she would not have unprotected sex with a stranger?


Jesus, God almighty! Give it a rest already! We get the point you are trying to make: If she wouldn't, why would anybody else. The fact of the matter is that the comparison between her Royal Highness and the common street thug is entirely different!

still ur wrong
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:18 pm

I'm looking at the comments, why is everyone getting so upset? o: :eek:
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:19 pm

Great Azarath wrote:I'm looking at the comments, why is everyone getting so upset? o: :eek:


Because you've done nothing but ignore decent points, dance around arguments, and hammer home the same, sad arguments yourself, none of which have been remotely effective. Submit this, and we will see who has the support.

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Dizyntk
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Postby Dizyntk » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:23 pm

still ur wrong


"And THAT, my fellow Ambassadors, is the extent of the author's proof. We are wrong. What a magnificantly crafted rebuttal. I particularly enjoy the footnotes and the studies cited to back up his conclusion."
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Alqania
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Postby Alqania » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:25 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:
Jesus, God almighty! Give it a rest already! We get the point you are trying to make: If she wouldn't, why would anybody else. The fact of the matter is that the comparison between her Royal Highness and the common street thug is entirely different!

still ur wrong


"I would like to implore Your Excellency to refrain from implying that there is no difference between Her Royal Highness and a common street thug."
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:29 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:I'm looking at the comments, why is everyone getting so upset? o: :eek:


Because you've done nothing but ignore decent points, dance around arguments, and hammer home the same, sad arguments yourself, none of which have been remotely effective. Submit this, and we will see who has the support.

That my friend, is a lie. I have responded to almost everything you guys said. You on the other hand ignored a lot of what I said.
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Great Azarath
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:29 pm

Dizyntk wrote:
still ur wrong


"And THAT, my fellow Ambassadors, is the extent of the author's proof. We are wrong. What a magnificantly crafted rebuttal. I particularly enjoy the footnotes and the studies cited to back up his conclusion."

Who ever said this was my proof?
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:30 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:
Because you've done nothing but ignore decent points, dance around arguments, and hammer home the same, sad arguments yourself, none of which have been remotely effective. Submit this, and we will see who has the support.

That my friend, is a lie. I have responded to almost everything you guys said. You on the other hand ignored a lot of what I said.


I am not your friend. Do not make that mistake. You have not responded adequately to any of what was said. Every single one of your "rebuttals" was received with disbelief, corrections to your statement, and general disbelief that anybody would say something so clearly wrong. If you believe otherwise, we strongly suggest you reread what was said.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:32 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote: Put your money where your mouth is and submit this proposal.

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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:33 pm

Alqania wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:still ur wrong


"I would like to implore Your Excellency to refrain from implying that there is no difference between Her Royal Highness and a common street thug."

And who are you referring to as a street thug? Btw, did you say dizynkt said she wouldn't have unprotected sex with a stranger?
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Postby Great Azarath » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:36 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:That my friend, is a lie. I have responded to almost everything you guys said. You on the other hand ignored a lot of what I said.


I am not your friend. Do not make that mistake. You have not responded adequately to any of what was said. Every single one of your "rebuttals" was received with disbelief, corrections to your statement, and general disbelief that anybody would say something so clearly wrong. If you believe otherwise, we strongly suggest you reread what was said.

No, for a majority I have respond pretty well....buddy.
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Postby Dizyntk » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:36 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Alqania wrote:
"I would like to implore Your Excellency to refrain from implying that there is no difference between Her Royal Highness and a common street thug."

And who are you referring to as a street thug? Btw, did you say dizynkt said she wouldn't have unprotected sex with a stranger?

"And once again, your ability to completely misread a statement or misunderstand a point defies credible belief."
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Postby Dizyntk » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:37 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:
I am not your friend. Do not make that mistake. You have not responded adequately to any of what was said. Every single one of your "rebuttals" was received with disbelief, corrections to your statement, and general disbelief that anybody would say something so clearly wrong. If you believe otherwise, we strongly suggest you reread what was said.

No, for a majority I have respond pretty well....buddy.

"You have yet to respond well to anything in the past 38 pages."
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:38 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:
I am not your friend. Do not make that mistake. You have not responded adequately to any of what was said. Every single one of your "rebuttals" was received with disbelief, corrections to your statement, and general disbelief that anybody would say something so clearly wrong. If you believe otherwise, we strongly suggest you reread what was said.

No, for a majority I have respond pretty well....buddy.


Now you are simply trying to be obnoxious. The Azarathian delegation has proven to have the mental faculties of a fourteen-year old child. Since the Azarathian delegation will not rise to my challenge for them to submit the proposal and see where it goes, then we can only assume that the Azarathians are in agreement that such a proposal could never pass.

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Postby Dilange » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:39 pm

Great Azarath wrote:1- you keep saying that but fail to tell us what the point it.


How do you plan on telling prostitutes the risk when they prolly already know them?

2- Are you saying prostitution has nothing to do with sex?


DIdnt say that at all. I said its more of a business transaction...a contract is unnessessary.

3- You can get a disease from anyone.....doesnt have to be a prostitute. What abbout your husband or wife?


I know that. But its more likely from a prostitute.

4- Again that is not legal, therefore irrelevant.


Actually it is legal, and if not show proof.

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