[Second Draft] Legalizing Prostitution

[Dizyntk]

GA, I don't think this will pass. The support for this draft has stagnated, and most of the WA community are against it. Your own poll will tell you that much.

The opposition has already won out, no matter what you do to continue revising this draft. It lacks enough backing to even be brought for a vote in the General Assembly.

"Quite so. Indeed, the only intelligent support you have had for this proposal came from Dr. Forsahw and he has not deemed this issue worthy of comment for some time now. Perhaps you should follow his sensible lead and let the matter drop."

[Great Azarath]

I thought making them use protection was enough? What else do you suggest?

Protection isnt 100%...what protection are you talking about?

I would I agree to a mandatory health test for diseases...if you infect with an STD then no job for you.

This resolution RECCOMENDS the following:
(1) That member states provide free or low-cost condoms and other prophylactics, birth control and STI screenings to prostitutes and others who are at risk of STIs and unwanted pregnancies.
(2) Prostitutes are involved with brothels for safety.

not enough?

[Great Azarath]

GA, I don't think this will pass. The support for this draft has stagnated, and most of the WA community are against it. Your own poll will tell you that much.

The opposition has already won out, no matter what you do to continue revising this draft. It lacks enough backing to even be brought for a vote in the General Assembly.

"Quite so. Indeed, the only intelligent support you have had for this proposal came from Dr. Forsahw and he has not deemed this issue worthy of comment for some time now. Perhaps you should follow his sensible lead and let the matter drop."

Instead of telling me to drop it...why dont you guys give suggestions as to what will make you agree. I thought I made it clear I am nnot giving up

[Dizyntk]

"Quite so. Indeed, the only intelligent support you have had for this proposal came from Dr. Forsahw and he has not deemed this issue worthy of comment for some time now. Perhaps you should follow his sensible lead and let the matter drop."

Instead of telling me to drop it...why dont you guys give suggestions as to what will make you agree. I thought I made it clear I am nnot giving up

"I would have thought that WE have made it quite clear that there is absolutely nothing you could conceivably put in this proposal that will make us agree to legalizing this particular business transaction."

[Dilange]

Your legalization mentions it being a bodily sovereignty....when if fact many people view it as a business.
Criminal organization would use this to become legitimate and prolyl would go into trafficking since it is legal for prostitution.

But not against their will, Trafficking is against will.....right?

Yea but Trafficking....doesnt follow the law.....and now since you are giving the legalization of something they do.....you are eventually legalizing trafficking.

WAY TO GO!!!

Btw your resolution nothing mentioning the fact to check if its consentual or not....even doing so it would still conflict with NatSov.

[Dilange]

Protection isnt 100%...what protection are you talking about?

I would I agree to a mandatory health test for diseases...if you infect with an STD then no job for you.

This resolution RECCOMENDS the following:
(1) That member states provide free or low-cost condoms and other prophylactics, birth control and STI screenings to prostitutes and others who are at risk of STIs and unwanted pregnancies.
(2) Prostitutes are involved with brothels for safety.

not enough?

1) Cheap condoms are terrible they have a low rate of prevention. Birth control is still low. STI good but so? If they are infected....then what?

2) I dont remember brothels being hospitals. Safetty as in domestic and violence not health wise.

[Great Azarath]

Instead of telling me to drop it...why dont you guys give suggestions as to what will make you agree. I thought I made it clear I am nnot giving up

"I would have thought that WE have made it quite clear that there is absolutely nothing you could conceivably put in this proposal that will make us agree to legalizing this particular business transaction."

Alright why do to hate this resolution so much? Maybe I can make changes.

[Great Azarath]

This resolution RECCOMENDS the following:
(1) That member states provide free or low-cost condoms and other prophylactics, birth control and STI screenings to prostitutes and others who are at risk of STIs and unwanted pregnancies.
(2) Prostitutes are involved with brothels for safety.

not enough?

1) Cheap condoms are terrible they have a low rate of prevention. Birth control is still low. STI good but so? If they are infected....then what?

2) I dont remember brothels being hospitals. Safetty as in domestic and violence not health wise.

cheap as in low price, not low quality.
Brothel is just there, has nothing to do with what we are talking about. I copied everything by mistake and didnt feel like re-doing it.

That member states provide free or low-cost high quality condoms and other prophylactics, birth control and STI screenings to prostitutes and others who are at risk of STIs and unwanted pregnancies.
(2) Prostitutes are involved with brothels for safety.

[Walrusfolk Eurarcta]

But not against their will, Trafficking is against will.....right?

Yea but Trafficking....doesnt follow the law.....and now since you are giving the legalization of something they do.....you are eventually legalizing trafficking.

WAY TO GO!!!

Btw your resolution nothing mentioning the fact to check if its consentual or not....even doing so it would still conflict with NatSov.

Criminal orginizations also listen to music.

Thus, if you legalize music, it will eventually lead to the legalization of murder, as both are things that criminal organizations do. After all, as you point out, when you legalize something that someone does, it directly leads to legalizing other things that they do.

So we should outlaw music then! So that murder remains illegal!

[Vocatus]

"Quite so. Indeed, the only intelligent support you have had for this proposal came from Dr. Forsahw and he has not deemed this issue worthy of comment for some time now. Perhaps you should follow his sensible lead and let the matter drop."

Instead of telling me to drop it...why dont you guys give suggestions as to what will make you agree. I thought I made it clear I am nnot giving up

Yes, well, we're not giving up on retaining the right to decide whether prostitution should be legal or illegal within our own borders, so I suppose we're all out of luck.

[Dizyntk]

Yea but Trafficking....doesnt follow the law.....and now since you are giving the legalization of something they do.....you are eventually legalizing trafficking.

WAY TO GO!!!

Btw your resolution nothing mentioning the fact to check if its consentual or not....even doing so it would still conflict with NatSov.

Criminal orginizations also listen to music.

Thus, if you legalize music, it will eventually lead to the legalization of murder, as both are things that criminal organizations do. After all, as you point out, when you legalize something that someone does, it directly leads to legalizing other things that they do.

So we should outlaw music then! So that murder remains illegal!

"That is a very fallacious argument, Ambassador. Prostitution, even in nations where it has been legalized, has been shown to have a direct correlation to trafficking rates increasing. Nothing, to my knowledge, links music and murder rates. If you are going to make an argument for this proposal then I suggest you make one that does not make it look sillier than it is."

[Morlago]

"Quite so. Indeed, the only intelligent support you have had for this proposal came from Dr. Forsahw and he has not deemed this issue worthy of comment for some time now. Perhaps you should follow his sensible lead and let the matter drop."

Instead of telling me to drop it...why dont you guys give suggestions as to what will make you agree. I thought I made it clear I am nnot giving up

Instead of grasping any chance of salvaging it... why dont you just drop it. We thought we made it clear we are not going to support it ever.

[Dilange]

Yea but Trafficking....doesnt follow the law.....and now since you are giving the legalization of something they do.....you are eventually legalizing trafficking.

WAY TO GO!!!

Btw your resolution nothing mentioning the fact to check if its consentual or not....even doing so it would still conflict with NatSov.

Criminal orginizations also listen to music.

Thus, if you legalize music, it will eventually lead to the legalization of murder, as both are things that criminal organizations do. After all, as you point out, when you legalize something that someone does, it directly leads to legalizing other things that they do.

So we should outlaw music then! So that murder remains illegal!

So what your saying is if I buy a computer, then eventually I will go burn down a hospital?

That corralation makes no sense at all Delegate.

[Walrusfolk Eurarcta]

Criminal orginizations also listen to music.

Thus, if you legalize music, it will eventually lead to the legalization of murder, as both are things that criminal organizations do. After all, as you point out, when you legalize something that someone does, it directly leads to legalizing other things that they do.

So we should outlaw music then! So that murder remains illegal!

"That is a very fallacious argument, Ambassador. Prostittution, even in nations where it has been legalized, has been shown to have a direct correlation to trafficking rates increasing. Nothing, to my knowledge, links music and murder rates. If you are going to make an argument for this proposal then I suggest you make one that does not make it look sillier than it is."

Ambassador? I am not an ambassador. I was just randomly chosen to be sent here... it's complicated. Anyway, I may not be a fancy ambassador, but I DO know that ya require statistics to back up an argument. Give me some citations on this correlation.

[Walrusfolk Eurarcta]

Criminal orginizations also listen to music.

Thus, if you legalize music, it will eventually lead to the legalization of murder, as both are things that criminal organizations do. After all, as you point out, when you legalize something that someone does, it directly leads to legalizing other things that they do.

So we should outlaw music then! So that murder remains illegal!

So what your saying is if I buy a computer, then eventually I will go burn down a hospital?

That corralation makes no sense at all Delegate.

Sense is subjective!! And perhaps I am not trying to make sense. Maybe that is the point. And it sounds like you are saying that arson is bad? Hmm. Unusual viewpoint.

[Dilange]

"That is a very fallacious argument, Ambassador. Prostittution, even in nations where it has been legalized, has been shown to have a direct correlation to trafficking rates increasing. Nothing, to my knowledge, links music and murder rates. If you are going to make an argument for this proposal then I suggest you make one that does not make it look sillier than it is."

Ambassador? I am not an ambassador. I was just randomly chosen to be sent here... it's complicated. Anyway, I may not be a fancy ambassador, but I DO know that ya require statistics to back up an argument. Give me some citations on this correlation.

You also not part of the WA so....why are you here?

[Dilange]

So what your saying is if I buy a computer, then eventually I will go burn down a hospital?

That corralation makes no sense at all Delegate.

Sense is subjective!! And perhaps I am not trying to make sense. Maybe that is the point. And it sounds like you are saying that arson is bad? Hmm. Unusual viewpoint.

NO what you are saying is legalizing prostitution is legalizing sex trafficking which hold hand in hand. You used an example that makes no sense what so ever.

BEsides, we have legalized music.....and murder is still illegal....so ummm that arguement makes no sense to begin with.

[Great Azarath]

Criminal orginizations also listen to music.

Thus, if you legalize music, it will eventually lead to the legalization of murder, as both are things that criminal organizations do. After all, as you point out, when you legalize something that someone does, it directly leads to legalizing other things that they do.

So we should outlaw music then! So that murder remains illegal!

"That is a very fallacious argument, Ambassador. Prostittution, even in nations where it has been legalized, has been shown to have a direct correlation to trafficking rates increasing. Nothing, to my knowledge, links music and murder rates. If you are going to make an argument for this proposal then I suggest you make one that does not make it look sillier than it is."

....Do you have proof of this claim>

[Dilange]

"That is a very fallacious argument, Ambassador. Prostittution, even in nations where it has been legalized, has been shown to have a direct correlation to trafficking rates increasing. Nothing, to my knowledge, links music and murder rates. If you are going to make an argument for this proposal then I suggest you make one that does not make it look sillier than it is."

....Do you have proof of this claim>

[Walrusfolk Eurarcta]

Sense is subjective!! And perhaps I am not trying to make sense. Maybe that is the point. And it sounds like you are saying that arson is bad? Hmm. Unusual viewpoint.

NO what you are saying is legalizing prostitution is legalizing sex trafficking which hold hand in hand. You used an example that makes no sense what so ever.

BEsides, we have legalized music.....and murder is still illegal....so ummm that arguement makes no sense to begin with.

Exactly.

[Walrusfolk Eurarcta]

....Do you have proof of this claim>

Slapping yourself in the face! All the proof you will ever need about anything.

[Dilange]

NO what you are saying is legalizing prostitution is legalizing sex trafficking which hold hand in hand. You used an example that makes no sense what so ever.

BEsides, we have legalized music.....and murder is still illegal....so ummm that arguement makes no sense to begin with.

Exactly.

So you admit that your point made absolutely no sense to the current arguement.

[Great Azarath]

BEINGS! Please, get on topic. Edit the purposal

[Dilange]

Slapping yourself in the face! All the proof you will ever need about anything.

THe facepalm was for the sheer stupidity of the OP.

Who cares about the corrolation between music and murder....there isnt one but thats not the issue....the issue is that sex trafficking and prostitution have a DIRECT effect one each other.

If you have a legalized front for criminal organization, ergo crime will increase. If prostitution is legalised, ergo sex trafficking can be overlooked and seen as regular prostitution. CONSENT is just a pretty word we all use to ensure governments dont do it. I doubt criminal organization care about the GA and their decrees due to the fact that they break national laws in the first place.

[Great Azarath]

Slapping yourself in the face! All the proof you will ever need about anything.

THe facepalm was for the sheer stupidity of the OP.

Who cares about the corrolation between music and murder....there isnt one but thats not the issue....the issue is that sex trafficking and prostitution have a DIRECT effect one each other.

If you have a legalized front for criminal organization, ergo crime will increase. If prostitution is legalised, ergo sex trafficking can be overlooked and seen as regular prostitution. CONSENT is just a pretty word we all use to ensure governments dont do it. I doubt criminal organization care about the GA and their decrees due to the fact that they break national laws in the first place.

.....Sex trafficking is illegal, prostitution depends on the nation. If this resolution passes, Prostitution will be legal and sex trafficking will still be illegal.