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Will you vote yes on this resolution? Only WA members please

Yes, I agree
113
37%
Yes, I agree somewhat
30
10%
Undecided
5
2%
No, I disagree somewhat
25
8%
No, I disagree
134
44%
 
Total votes : 307

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Great Azarath
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Founded: Aug 15, 2011
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Postby Great Azarath » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:58 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Alqania wrote:"Now, I have pointed out earlier that WAR#4 Restrictions on Child Labor bans anyone under the age of consent from working as a prostitute. This is the exact wording:



I am concerned that the following clause of the submitted proposal is illegal for contradicting the ban cited above:



I could of course be wrong and I doubt that the proposal would reach quorum anyway, but I thought that I should share this legality concern and I hope that it could be addressed."

That definitely looks like an illegal contradiction to me: Have you contacted the Mods about it?

It is already said that a child cannot work a job like this, so there isn't a point to it.
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Alqania
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Founded: Aug 03, 2011
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Postby Alqania » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:59 am

Great Azarath wrote:No it doesn't. That resolution is in effect, my resolution must also follow that one. By the rules of the game I think it doesn't conflict.


"From Your Excellency's statement, it seems there is some confusion on how the rules work."

Bears Armed wrote:That definitely looks like an illegal contradiction to me: Have you contacted the Mods about it?


OOC: Not yet, I wasn't sure about it, but considering your feedback I'll go ahead and do so. A GHR is the correct procedure since it's submitted, right?
Queendom of Alqania
Amor vincit omnia et nos cedamus amori
Former Speaker of the Gay Regional Parliament
Represented in the WA by Ambassador Lord Raekevikinfo
and Deputy Ambassador Princess Christineinfo
Author of GA#178
Member of UNOG and the Stonewall Alliance

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Great Azarath
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Founded: Aug 15, 2011
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Postby Great Azarath » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:00 am

Shaunborough wrote:My Nation agrees to this as it is legal here and controlled by the goverment.

I applaud you. :bow:
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Alqania
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Founded: Aug 03, 2011
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Postby Alqania » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:01 am

Great Azarath wrote:
Alqania wrote:


:blink: "What?"

:eyebrow: I had a choice. Either I submit it last night, or submit it and not be able to constantly watch it. I choose to submit it. :eyebrow:


"Then Your Excellency admits that Your Excellency's statement about not having a choice was false."
Queendom of Alqania
Amor vincit omnia et nos cedamus amori
Former Speaker of the Gay Regional Parliament
Represented in the WA by Ambassador Lord Raekevikinfo
and Deputy Ambassador Princess Christineinfo
Author of GA#178
Member of UNOG and the Stonewall Alliance

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Mahaj
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Founded: Dec 08, 2009
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Postby Mahaj » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:02 am

Great Azarath wrote:
Alqania wrote:


:blink: "What?"

:eyebrow: I had a choice. Either I submit it last night, or submit it and not be able to constantly watch it. I choose to submit it. :eyebrow:

Or you could not submit it.

Alqania wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:No it doesn't. That resolution is in effect, my resolution must also follow that one. By the rules of the game I think it doesn't conflict.


"From Your Excellency's statement, it seems there is some confusion on how the rules work."

Bears Armed wrote:That definitely looks like an illegal contradiction to me: Have you contacted the Mods about it?


OOC: Not yet, I wasn't sure about it, but considering your feedback I'll go ahead and do so. A GHR is the correct procedure since it's submitted, right?

Yep, GHR.
Aal Izz Well: UDL
<Koth> I'm still going by the assumption that Mahaj is Unibot's kid brother or something
Kandarin(Naivetry): You're going to have a great NS career ahead of you if you want it, Mahaj. :)
<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Dizyntk
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Founded: Aug 05, 2011
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Postby Dizyntk » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:04 am

Great Azarath wrote:
Dizyntk wrote:"I can happily say that the Dizyntk have the regulations to squash this idea in our nation ready to roll in the, extremely unlikely, event of this horrendous proposal getting passed. Once again, I would like to thank the author for kindly leaving in not only the loopholes to do this, but also an encouragement in the proposal itself to do so." :)

:) A lot of proposals say that. You cannot just pinpoint mine. :) And yeah that does conflict with it.

"A lot of proposals I do not, necessarily, disagree with. And, conflict? Conflict with what? You are making absolutely no sense, Ambassador. Again."
Last edited by Dizyntk on Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Great Azarath
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Founded: Aug 15, 2011
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Postby Great Azarath » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:05 am

Alqania wrote:
Great Azarath wrote: :eyebrow: I had a choice. Either I submit it last night, or submit it and not be able to constantly watch it. I choose to submit it. :eyebrow:


"Then Your Excellency admits that Your Excellency's statement about not having a choice was false."

No, as said right above. I have a choice.
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Leader of The Kingdom of Great Azarath

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Mahaj
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Founded: Dec 08, 2009
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Postby Mahaj » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:08 am

Great Azarath wrote:
Alqania wrote:
"Then Your Excellency admits that Your Excellency's statement about not having a choice was false."

No, as said right above. I have a choice.

You didn't say that earlier.
Aal Izz Well: UDL
<Koth> I'm still going by the assumption that Mahaj is Unibot's kid brother or something
Kandarin(Naivetry): You're going to have a great NS career ahead of you if you want it, Mahaj. :)
<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Great Azarath
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Postby Great Azarath » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:09 am

Dizyntk wrote:
Great Azarath wrote: :) A lot of proposals say that. You cannot just pinpoint mine. :) And yeah that does conflict with it.

"A lot of proposals I do not, necessarily, disagree with. And, conflict? Conflict with what? You are making absolutely no sense, Ambassador. Again."

Yes, I am making sense. Try thinking, you might realize I was speaking of that thing your doing within your nation.
From the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
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Leader of The Kingdom of Great Azarath

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Great Azarath
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Postby Great Azarath » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:12 am

Mahaj wrote:
Great Azarath wrote: :eyebrow: I had a choice. Either I submit it last night, or submit it and not be able to constantly watch it. I choose to submit it. :eyebrow:

Or you could not submit it.

Alqania wrote:
"From Your Excellency's statement, it seems there is some confusion on how the rules work."



OOC: Not yet, I wasn't sure about it, but considering your feedback I'll go ahead and do so. A GHR is the correct procedure since it's submitted, right?

Yep, GHR.

:?: GHR?
From the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
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Leader of The Kingdom of Great Azarath

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Dizyntk
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Founded: Aug 05, 2011
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Postby Dizyntk » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:12 am

Great Azarath wrote:
Dizyntk wrote:"A lot of proposals I do not, necessarily, disagree with. And, conflict? Conflict with what? You are making absolutely no sense, Ambassador. Again."

Yes, I am making sense. Try thinking, you might realize I was speaking of that thing your doing within your nation.

'You do not know what my nation is doing, Ambassador. I can assure you that it will follow the letter of this propsal exactly, should it pass, and still keep this profession completely unheard of in our borders."
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Mahaj
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Founded: Dec 08, 2009
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Postby Mahaj » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:14 am

Great Azarath wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Or you could not submit it.


Yep, GHR.

:?: GHR?

GHR
Aal Izz Well: UDL
<Koth> I'm still going by the assumption that Mahaj is Unibot's kid brother or something
Kandarin(Naivetry): You're going to have a great NS career ahead of you if you want it, Mahaj. :)
<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Alqania
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Founded: Aug 03, 2011
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Postby Alqania » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:15 am

Great Azarath wrote:
Alqania wrote:
"Then Your Excellency admits that Your Excellency's statement about not having a choice was false."

No, as said right above. I have a choice.


"This is exactly what Your Excellency said:"

Great Azarath wrote:I didn't have a choice unfortunately.
Queendom of Alqania
Amor vincit omnia et nos cedamus amori
Former Speaker of the Gay Regional Parliament
Represented in the WA by Ambassador Lord Raekevikinfo
and Deputy Ambassador Princess Christineinfo
Author of GA#178
Member of UNOG and the Stonewall Alliance

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Alqania
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Founded: Aug 03, 2011
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Postby Alqania » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:16 am

Mahaj wrote:
Great Azarath wrote: :?: GHR?

GHR


OOC: I lodged a GHR a few minutes ago.
Queendom of Alqania
Amor vincit omnia et nos cedamus amori
Former Speaker of the Gay Regional Parliament
Represented in the WA by Ambassador Lord Raekevikinfo
and Deputy Ambassador Princess Christineinfo
Author of GA#178
Member of UNOG and the Stonewall Alliance

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Mahaj
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Founded: Dec 08, 2009
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Postby Mahaj » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:27 am

Alqania wrote:
Mahaj wrote:GHR


OOC: I lodged a GHR a few minutes ago.

OOC: awesome
Aal Izz Well: UDL
<Koth> I'm still going by the assumption that Mahaj is Unibot's kid brother or something
Kandarin(Naivetry): You're going to have a great NS career ahead of you if you want it, Mahaj. :)
<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Flibbleites
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Founded: Jan 02, 2004
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Postby Flibbleites » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:59 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Why oh why oh why have you submitted this proposal?

Do our opinions not matter? Does the poll not matter?

Yes, your opinions matter a great deal to me. The poll encouraged me to do this! :D

So, what? All those "NO" votes are some sort of reverse psychology thing? :unsure:

Bob Flibble
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Great Azarath
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Founded: Aug 15, 2011
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Postby Great Azarath » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:01 pm

Flibbleites wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:Yes, your opinions matter a great deal to me. The poll encouraged me to do this! :D

So, what? All those "NO" votes are some sort of reverse psychology thing? :unsure:

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

Bob, look at the YES as well!
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Flibbleites
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Postby Flibbleites » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:08 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Flibbleites wrote:So, what? All those "NO" votes are some sort of reverse psychology thing? :unsure:

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

Bob, look at the YES as well!

I see them, but I see more "no"s than "yes"s, which tells me that you don't have the support to pass this.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

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Great Azarath
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Founded: Aug 15, 2011
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Postby Great Azarath » Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:55 pm

Flibbleites wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:Bob, look at the YES as well!

I see them, but I see more "no"s than "yes"s, which tells me that you don't have the support to pass this.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

Bobby boy, don't you know some votes are worth more than others? Dont you know there are people who commented, but didn't vote.
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Leader of The Kingdom of Great Azarath

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Dizyntk
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Founded: Aug 05, 2011
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Postby Dizyntk » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:32 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Flibbleites wrote:I see them, but I see more "no"s than "yes"s, which tells me that you don't have the support to pass this.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

Bobby boy, don't you know some votes are worth more than others? Dont you know there are people who commented, but didn't vote.

:roll: "Are you really that foolish? Ambassador Flibble has been a member of this body since it went by the UNspeakable name. He has authored successful resolutions. He is, in another guise, one of our beloved Mods. I would wager he knows considerably more about this subject than you are probably capable of learning."
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Mahaj
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Founded: Dec 08, 2009
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Postby Mahaj » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:37 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Flibbleites wrote:I see them, but I see more "no"s than "yes"s, which tells me that you don't have the support to pass this.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

Bobby boy, don't you know some votes are worth more than others? Dont you know there are people who commented, but didn't vote.

And why would those powerful votes not be against this?
Aal Izz Well: UDL
<Koth> I'm still going by the assumption that Mahaj is Unibot's kid brother or something
Kandarin(Naivetry): You're going to have a great NS career ahead of you if you want it, Mahaj. :)
<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Slivary
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Postby Slivary » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:38 pm

So what are you going to do when it doesn't reach quorm this time?

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Mahaj
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Postby Mahaj » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:41 pm

Slivary wrote:So what are you going to do when it doesn't reach quorm this time?

Resubmit it, obviously. He has no choice. :roll:
Aal Izz Well: UDL
<Koth> I'm still going by the assumption that Mahaj is Unibot's kid brother or something
Kandarin(Naivetry): You're going to have a great NS career ahead of you if you want it, Mahaj. :)
<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Slivary
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Postby Slivary » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:42 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Slivary wrote:So what are you going to do when it doesn't reach quorm this time?

Resubmit it, obviously. He has no choice. :roll:

Is he just going to keep resubmitting it. I'd like to see that happen. This topic is going to be 1000 pages long by the time he gives up

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Dizyntk
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Founded: Aug 05, 2011
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Postby Dizyntk » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:43 pm

Slivary wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Resubmit it, obviously. He has no choice. :roll:

Is he just going to keep resubmitting it. I'd like to see that happen. This topic is going to be 1000 pages long by the time he gives up

"With any luck, Ambassador SaDiablo can get his proposal passed and that will put an end to this silliness."
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