[Second Draft] Legalizing Prostitution

[Speculine]

Entire Post OOC: You call me ignorant? You call me and other WA members sheep? My writing pathetic? At least I'm grammatically correct and spell properly. I never said I would ignore a claim on trafficking. You should keep your facts straight kid. There are tons of backed up statements all over this thread. You say I didn't pay attention? I've read this entire thread twice. Maybe you should read it all at least once. You disagreed for reasons that less than 17 people agreed with, that's not "many". Nobody cares about your padded poll so stop even trying to use it as a valid arguing point. You repeatedly insult others that barely insinuate that you are not understanding something.

I couldn't care less what one moderator said. And as far as I'm concerned, he stated it was well written and had no reason to reach the quorum this time.

As for your delusional view that Flibbleites approved of your draft... Nothing he wrote even remotely sounds like what you think he said. It's not even close. You're just making stuff up...

As for my opinion of this proposal...

(Image) (This said Opposed)
(Image) (This said National Sovereignty)

Instead of telling me to drop it...why dont you guys give suggestions as to what will make you agree. I thought I made it clear I am nnot giving up

I suggest dousing the proposal in lighter fluid and setting it ablaze.

Telling me to quite isnt advice

Then how's this for advice, focus your proposal writing efforts on something that actually has more than a snowball's chance in hell of passing. Think about it, when you've got this many people arguing against you during the drafting, you're going to have even more arguing against this should this proposal ever come up for vote.

[Mahaj]

repost it, then.

because previous arguments weren't enough.

I am not re-posting all my arguments, re- scroll them

I've looked at them. They don't do a good enough job. Try again.

[Great Azarath]

Look, don't give me that crap about imposing extra protocol. Many other resolutions say this and passed, so back off. Proof!?! When was I showed proof that actually meant something? Dilange showed me something and I countered it very well. His link even had things that supported prostitution. This counters I have been receiving were outlandish and irrelevant for the most part. For example, you would ignore a claim for trafficking. Really? The only proof I saw was from Dilange, so you saying almost everything came with proof is B. S. I disagreed for reasons that many other people also agreed with. How exactly is that outlandish, childish or stupid? If you payed attention, you would see that the people who are for have been increasing at a faster rate than the people against, and don't forget the people who stopped posting before I even put the poll up. I couldn't care less what one moderator said. And as far as I'm concerned, he stated it was well written and had no reason to reach the quorum this time. Most of the argument I got from you and the other sheep barely had fact to them, so drop it. I've been childish? Far as I am concerned people have constantly been insulting me, so don't give me that crap. The loophole you guys have pointed out have been fixed and the ones you point out now do not make sense. As stated already it is not poorly written. Yelled at someone? First of all, I am writing. Its impossible to yell, but if you are referring to the caps I stated why it was in caps. Stop being so ignorant and inform your self before you post such a long pathetic paragraph....

"Perfect example of childish tantrum? Read the above. Full of complaining about imaginary slights, calling Ambassadors "sheep", and denying factual evidence with the excuse of he didn't see it. If anyone has not been paying attention it is you, sir."

OOC: I really cannot believe that I have to explain this to anyone over the age of 6, but when you type in all caps, LIKE THIS, it is assumed you are screaming.

Excuse? I didnt see it because it wasnt posted. The only this imaginary is your evidence. Since it was in the quote, I put it in caps so you would notice. I would expect you to know this.

[Great Azarath]

Entire Post OOC: You call me ignorant? YES You call me and other WA members sheep? YES My writing pathetic? YES At least I'm grammatically correct and spell properly. WHEN YOUR TRYPING TO LIKE 5 PEOPLE AT ONE TIME, THATS THE LAST THING ON MY MIND I never said I would ignore a claim on trafficking. I THINK IT WAS DIZYNKT THAT DID You should keep your facts straight kid.I'D EXPECT YOU TO KNOW I AM SPEAKING IN A GENERAL TERM There are tons of backed up statements all over this thread. LIKE WERE?You say I didn't pay attention? YESI've read this entire thread twice. TRY READING IT AGAIN Maybe you should read it all at least once. You disagreed for reasons that less than 17 people agreed with, that's not "many".WHY DONT YOU TRY RE-COUNTING, OR LOOKING AT THE POLL Nobody cares about your padded poll so stop even trying to use it as a valid arguing point. You repeatedly insult others that barely insinuate that you are not understanding something. SHOW ME WHEN I INSULTED SOMEONE WITHOUT BEING INSULTED FIRST....

I couldn't care less what one moderator said. And as far as I'm concerned, he stated it was well written and had no reason to reach the quorum this time.

As for your delusional view that Flibbleites approved of your draft... Nothing he wrote even remotely sounds like what you think he said. It's not even close. You're just making stuff up...

As for my opinion of this proposal... WHO SAID IT WAS HIM? ITS IN THE BEGINNING, 1-10 PAGE

(Image) (This said Opposed)
(Image) (This said National Sovereignty)

I suggest dousing the proposal in lighter fluid and setting it ablaze.

Then how's this for advice, focus your proposal writing efforts on something that actually has more than a snowball's chance in hell of passing.NAH, I THINK IT MIGHT PASS Think about it, when you've got this many people arguing against you during the drafting,....ITS BEEN THE SAME PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WHATS THIS MANY? you're going to have even more arguing against this should this proposal ever come up for vote.

THE MORE THE MERRIER
And for the slow ones, it is in caps so you realized I responded within the quote.

[Separatist Peoples]

Then how's this for advice, focus your proposal writing efforts on something that actually has more than a snowball's chance in hell of passing. Think about it, when you've got this many people arguing against you during the drafting, you're going to have even more arguing against this should this proposal ever come up for vote.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

No, this is what he said.

[Great Azarath]

I am not re-posting all my arguments, re- scroll them

I've looked at them. They don't do a good enough job. Try again.

Well, thats your insignificant opinion.

[Separatist Peoples]

I've looked at them. They don't do a good enough job. Try again.

Well, thats your insignificant opinion.

So now anybody who disagrees with you isn't worth listening to? Wow. Yeah, that's a good way to handle things.

[Dizyntk]

And for the slow ones, it is in caps so you realized I responded within the quote.

OOC: Once again, and you must be terribly slow to not understand this, but if you type in ALL CAPS, then it is the same as shouting at somebody. If you do not realize this then, please, feel free to ask anybody on this entire board.

[Mahaj]

I've looked at them. They don't do a good enough job. Try again.

Well, thats your insignificant opinion.

*compares the time i've spent in the WA to the time you've spent in the WA*


suuure. very insignificant.

[Speculine]

OOC: I humbly come before the powers of NS to ask that this thread be closed. The OP has degenerated into simplistic taunts and refuses to properly debate. The past several pages, and majority of this thread, has been a lot of his refusal to debate and insulting of other WA members.

"To all WA ambassadors I ask that you refuse to even try to communicate with the representative of Azarath unless you actually want to be insulted. Please just let this debate end."

And with that Agent Zed reached below his desk and pulled out an impossibly sized shoulder mounted cannon with the word I.G.N.O.R.E. stencil painted in white spraypaint down the side and took aim on the ambassador of Azarath. Amist his screaming and tantrum throwing, the sound of a click was heard by all. There was a brief moment when the sound of the projectile vaulted towards it's victim, then silence.

The ambassador of Azarath was no more.

After waving the smoke away with his free hand, Agent Zed lowered the massive weapon back into it's tiny space below his desk. Letting out a long and loud sigh, he stated simply:

"Well then, I think that about clears this whole situation up. Drinks are on me tonight folks," and headed out away from the WA floor and leaving the past few days spectacle behind him.

[Herttora]

OOC: I humbly come before the powers of NS to ask that this thread be closed. The OP has degenerated into simplistic taunts and refuses to properly debate. The past several pages, and majority of this thread, has been a lot of his refusal to debate and insulting of other WA members.

"To all WA ambassadors I ask that you refuse to even try to communicate with the representative of Azarath unless you actually want to be insulted. Please just let this debate end."

And with that Agent Zed reached below his desk and pulled out an impossibly sized shoulder mounted cannon with the word I.G.N.O.R.E. stencil painted in white spraypaint down the side and took aim on the ambassador of Azarath. Amist his screaming and tantrum throwing, the sound of a click was heard by all. There was a brief moment when the sound of the projectile vaulted towards it's victim, then silence.

The ambassador of Azarath was no more.

After waving the smoke away with his free hand, Agent Zed lowered the massive weapon back into it's tiny space below his desk. Letting out a long and loud sigh, he stated simply:

"Well then, I think that about clears this whole situation up. Drinks are on me tonight folks," and headed out away from the WA floor and leaving the past few days spectacle behind him.

Seconded.

[Parti Ouvrier]

OOC: I humbly come before the powers of NS to ask that this thread be closed. The OP has degenerated into simplistic taunts and refuses to properly debate. The past several pages, and majority of this thread, has been a lot of his refusal to debate and insulting of other WA members.

"To all WA ambassadors I ask that you refuse to even try to communicate with the representative of Azarath unless you actually want to be insulted. Please just let this debate end."

And with that Agent Zed reached below his desk and pulled out an impossibly sized shoulder mounted cannon with the word I.G.N.O.R.E. stencil painted in white spraypaint down the side and took aim on the ambassador of Azarath. Amist his screaming and tantrum throwing, the sound of a click was heard by all. There was a brief moment when the sound of the projectile vaulted towards it's victim, then silence.

The ambassador of Azarath was no more.

After waving the smoke away with his free hand, Agent Zed lowered the massive weapon back into it's tiny space below his desk. Letting out a long and loud sigh, he stated simply:

"Well then, I think that about clears this whole situation up. Drinks are on me tonight folks," and headed out away from the WA floor and leaving the past few days spectacle behind him.

Lucky you, he didn't even address my suggestion.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

The WA can pass your proposal but member states can regulate prostitution to make it impossible for prostitution to make revenue.

Itsa loophole.

Yes, and the author has yet to provide a way of plugging it, unfortunately. We seem to be running into grave legal difficulties.

Also, as Dilange pointed out,

THe Ambassador from Behlkase makes a good arguement.

as does Dilange.

Furthermore, this draft doesn't allow us to ban prostitution where it causes a social menace. I know exactly the intent of this draft: to allow criminals to exploit vulnerable individuals.

We respectively disagree. That is not the intent. That may be a side effect in the case of insufficient regulation and/or insufficient enforcement of those regulations. However, that would be a problem with the regulations and the enforcement. That statement is akin to saying that allowing people to own guns or kitchen knives causes a social menace.

However, as Agent Z has pointed out, this debate is indeed degenerating, and the World Assembly has yet to see the way to solve the legal difficulties present in making this proposal have any potential for affect. Therefore, in light of those matters, we will cease actively supporting this proposal until - or possibly unless - these legal difficulties are resolved.

On the other hand, that doesn't mean I'm not curious to hear the response from Charlotte Ryberg?

[Great Azarath]

Well, thats your insignificant opinion.

So now anybody who disagrees with you isn't worth listening to? Wow. Yeah, that's a good way to handle things.

What? I read his statement, I'm done with it now.

[Great Azarath]

Well, thats your insignificant opinion.

*compares the time i've spent in the WA to the time you've spent in the WA*


suuure. very insignificant.

You're only one person, nothing you do will ever be significant

[Dilange]

*compares the time i've spent in the WA to the time you've spent in the WA*


suuure. very insignificant.

You're only one person, nothing you do will ever be significant

Really insulting? How low you've become ambassador!

THis draft is dead. End of story.

[Great Azarath]

I agree, it is degerating. Enought with the insults

[Great Azarath]

You're only one person, nothing you do will ever be significant

Really insulting? How low you've become ambassador!

THis draft is dead. End of story.

scroll up and see who insulted first.....
please lets just not insult

[Great Azarath]

OOC: I humbly come before the powers of NS to ask that this thread be closed. The OP has degenerated into simplistic taunts and refuses to properly debate. The past several pages, and majority of this thread, has been a lot of his refusal to debate and insulting of other WA members.

"To all WA ambassadors I ask that you refuse to even try to communicate with the representative of Azarath unless you actually want to be insulted. Please just let this debate end."

And with that Agent Zed reached below his desk and pulled out an impossibly sized shoulder mounted cannon with the word I.G.N.O.R.E. stencil painted in white spraypaint down the side and took aim on the ambassador of Azarath. Amist his screaming and tantrum throwing, the sound of a click was heard by all. There was a brief moment when the sound of the projectile vaulted towards it's victim, then silence.

The ambassador of Azarath was no more.

After waving the smoke away with his free hand, Agent Zed lowered the massive weapon back into it's tiny space below his desk. Letting out a long and loud sigh, he stated simply:

"Well then, I think that about clears this whole situation up. Drinks are on me tonight folks," and headed out away from the WA floor and leaving the past few days spectacle behind him.

now why would you want this to be closed? afraid it will get passed?

[Dilange]

Really insulting? How low you've become ambassador!

THis draft is dead. End of story.

scroll up and see who insulted first.....
please lets just not insult

You actually insulted first and this draft is dead. Many veterans have seen the signs and seen the detioration. Just accept it.

[Dilange]

OOC: I humbly come before the powers of NS to ask that this thread be closed. The OP has degenerated into simplistic taunts and refuses to properly debate. The past several pages, and majority of this thread, has been a lot of his refusal to debate and insulting of other WA members.

"To all WA ambassadors I ask that you refuse to even try to communicate with the representative of Azarath unless you actually want to be insulted. Please just let this debate end."

And with that Agent Zed reached below his desk and pulled out an impossibly sized shoulder mounted cannon with the word I.G.N.O.R.E. stencil painted in white spraypaint down the side and took aim on the ambassador of Azarath. Amist his screaming and tantrum throwing, the sound of a click was heard by all. There was a brief moment when the sound of the projectile vaulted towards it's victim, then silence.

The ambassador of Azarath was no more.

After waving the smoke away with his free hand, Agent Zed lowered the massive weapon back into it's tiny space below his desk. Letting out a long and loud sigh, he stated simply:

"Well then, I think that about clears this whole situation up. Drinks are on me tonight folks," and headed out away from the WA floor and leaving the past few days spectacle behind him.

now why would you want this to be closed? afraid it will get passed?

Ill highlight it for you.

The OP has degenerated into simplistic taunts and refuses to properly debate. The past several pages, and majority of this thread, has been a lot of his refusal to debate and insulting of other WA members.

[Great Azarath]

And for the slow ones, it is in caps so you realized I responded within the quote.

OOC: Once again, and you must be terribly slow to not understand this, but if you type in ALL CAPS, then it is the same as shouting at somebody. If you do not realize this then, please, feel free to ask anybody on this entire board.

And once again I must say that it's in caps for one reason and one reason only; to point out my response is actually within the quote itself. Please stop making it something it isn't.

[Great Azarath]

scroll up and see who insulted first.....
please lets just not insult

You actually insulted first and this draft is dead. Many veterans have seen the signs and seen the detioration. Just accept it.

No, he did. And I kow which is why I have stopped insulting

[Great Azarath]

now why would you want this to be closed? afraid it will get passed?

Ill highlight it for you.

The OP has degenerated into simplistic taunts and refuses to properly debate. The past several pages, and majority of this thread, has been a lot of his refusal to debate and insulting of other WA members.

[Herttora]

OOC: Mom: Stop fighting. Children: Ok. But he started. No he did, uh-uh it was you. We went from insulting to arguing over insulting to arguing over who started insulting and who wants to stop it most. Dear lord, give your heart a break, your blood pressures must be nearly 200 / 140 lol.